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Jones out
Sept 1, 2019 6:29:20 GMT
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Post by amathus on Sept 1, 2019 6:29:20 GMT
Is Scholes still on holiday? It will be him that needs to draw up the severance package with NJ and his coaching staff.
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Post by george2again on Sept 1, 2019 6:50:11 GMT
Honestly what's the point in getting rid? Something turned sour under Hughes, Lambert couldn't solve it, Rowett couldn't solve it, now Jones is struggling - does everyone honestly think someone can turn it around? Seems like a much deeper rooted issue to me. Sacking Jones just seems like the obvious option. Yes a strong experienced manager. All 3 mentioned were poor choices. Rowett and Nathan had all good intentions (young mannager build for the future) but the club is a mess and dropping from the prem needed an experienced hand not relative rookies. Think we just got it so wrong.
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Jones out
Sept 1, 2019 7:06:37 GMT
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Post by jontimmis on Sept 1, 2019 7:06:37 GMT
League 1 calling
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Jones out
Sept 1, 2019 7:08:22 GMT
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Post by JurgenVandeurzen on Sept 1, 2019 7:08:22 GMT
The telling thing will be if we go ahead with the new technical director or whatever his role is. He’s clearly being bought in as he’s one of NJs people.
If they hold off on that appointment (as they should) NJs days are numbered.
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Jones out
Sept 1, 2019 7:09:04 GMT
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Post by jontimmis on Sept 1, 2019 7:09:04 GMT
We’re heading for wilderness...
Irrelevance beckons.. 5/6 defeats and 1 draw.
Not to mention 3/27 wins... name one manager in the last 20 years with a worse record who kept there job?!
To be fair to Lambert he’s turning Ipswich around this season
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Post by timbo on Sept 1, 2019 7:12:00 GMT
4th failure on the trot Have to replace the CEO (Scholes?) before we make no 5 The Coates’s could get fed up of the embarrassment then we really are in trouble
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Post by noustie on Sept 1, 2019 7:16:17 GMT
He's tried picking teams out of a hat and consulted his Magic 8 ball for formations with no success so wondering if he needs to seek Devine intervention as he really seems to have pissed the big man off.
'Forgive me father for I have sinned. Exodus 20:17 - I coveted my neighbour's ass and had money to burn so just went out and bought Vokes off Burnley'
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Post by robwahlmann on Sept 1, 2019 7:16:55 GMT
NJ needs to go now before it's too late! This is now about saving the club from another relegation hangover!
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Jones out
Sept 1, 2019 7:19:43 GMT
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Post by bigjohnritchie on Sept 1, 2019 7:19:43 GMT
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Post by tony1234 on Sept 1, 2019 7:22:36 GMT
Honestly what's the point in getting rid? Something turned sour under Hughes, Lambert couldn't solve it, Rowett couldn't solve it, now Jones is struggling - does everyone honestly think someone can turn it around? Seems like a much deeper rooted issue to me. Sacking Jones just seems like the obvious option. The common factor is dreadful board decision making. a) Hughes was good then lost it, and meanwhile the board stopped enforcing any sort of due diligence with transfers. Hughes stayed way too long. b) Lambert never in a million years had what it took to save us C) Rowett is the one I sort of get, though his record suggested he’d get us in the play offs rather than up. Having won more than he lost, he may well have eventually done that. However at no point had he spent anything like the budget he was given, so little surprise some was wasted. His reign was the toughest in some ways too, because of the unholy mess he inherited, while expectations from a delusional board (and parts of the fan base) were unhinged. d) Jones was a desperate and stupid appointment, showing an absolute lack of judgement. His experience at Luton positioned him as a promising coach, but a chasm away from being relevant to our job in hand, or a club 10 times bigger. Once he faces situations in games or over the season, his inexperience is telling time and again. He has absolutely no answers - quelle surprise. So, yes, I do think a good qualified manager can at least stabilise us, because it requires our board to do something they have repeatedly failed to do - demonstrate basic common sense. So am expecting Kevin Phillips some time soon.
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Post by tosh on Sept 1, 2019 7:27:54 GMT
We’re heading for wilderness... Irrelevance beckons.. 5/6 defeats and 1 draw. Not to mention 3/27 wins... name one manager in the last 20 years with a worse record who kept there job?! To be fair to Lambert he’s turning Ipswich around this season Lambert / Rowett / Jones? With hindsight Lambert was much the best of the three and we’d probably have been much better off now if we’d kept him? In his second season there Ipswich are top and undefeated. Seems he is a lot better at identifying and rectifying problems without a big budget than his successors.
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Post by noustie on Sept 1, 2019 7:39:01 GMT
We’re heading for wilderness... Irrelevance beckons.. 5/6 defeats and 1 draw. Not to mention 3/27 wins... name one manager in the last 20 years with a worse record who kept there job?! To be fair to Lambert he’s turning Ipswich around this season Lambert / Rowett / Jones? With hindsight Lambert was much the best of the three and we’d probably have been much better off now if we’d kept him? In his second season there Ipswich are top and undefeated. Seems he is a lot better at identifying and rectifying problems without a big budget than his successors. Part of his problem was he had no time get backroom sorted so it looked like he'd just asked his mate tag along. I think he's best of the three too and even slightly miss the windmill arms now. With a pre season doubt he would have done any worse
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Post by bornscfcdiescfc on Sept 14, 2019 19:13:49 GMT
And he still survives although we had shit luck
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Post by walton corner on Sept 14, 2019 19:19:28 GMT
Has to be given to the next international break ...there were good signs today with the likes of badou ..and the first half ...let’s see with 11 men on pitch
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Post by bornscfcdiescfc on Sept 21, 2019 20:05:12 GMT
Another drab performance today against a very very ordinary team...but Lee Gregory up top on his own stinks of a manager who hasn`t got a fkin clue...How much longer Coates
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Post by bornscfcdiescfc on Sept 27, 2019 21:45:48 GMT
How much fookin more do we need to take ..
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Post by supacoopa101 on Sept 27, 2019 21:47:12 GMT
Literally any other club would have sacked him weeks ago. Our board are so spineless its unreal.
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Post by bornscfcdiescfc on Sept 27, 2019 21:50:31 GMT
Still think he will turn it around eh ? grow a pair lol lol
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Jones out
Sept 27, 2019 21:52:03 GMT
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Post by rorystowel on Sept 27, 2019 21:52:03 GMT
I feel embarrassed for the guy. He needs to go for his own good as well as ours, but he keeps banging on about how it’s all God’s Destiny or some shit. Someone needs tell him fuck off now, seriously.
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Post by bornscfcdiescfc on Sept 27, 2019 21:54:11 GMT
Every other manager we have played against had a plan to counter our good starts and us scoring first...NJ has not got a plan B or C...basic rubbish tactician end of... we go from 10 mins comfortable to absolute shit nearly every game
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Post by shakermaker on Sept 27, 2019 21:54:14 GMT
Literally any other club would have sacked him weeks ago. Our board are so spineless its unreal. I just don't think the Board can accept he has been a failure. On paper his appointment seemed a visionary masterstroke - up-and-coming, young, hungry manager who had turned a bog-standard team around and led them to promotion from League 2 to League 1, then led League 1 for half a season. The Board put all their eggs (or should that be egos!) into NJ and must've hoped that something would click and that Luton magic would begin to sparkle. But it's clear to every man and his dog that NJ is tactically bereft at this level.
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Post by bornscfcdiescfc on Sept 27, 2019 21:56:27 GMT
Literally any other club would have sacked him weeks ago. Our board are so spineless its unreal. I just don't think the Board can accept he has been a failure. On paper his appointment seemed a visionary masterstroke - up-and-coming, young, hungry manager who had turned a bog-standard team around and led them to promotion from League 2 to League 1, then led League 1 for half a season. The Board put all their eggs (or should that be egos!) into NJ and must've hoped that something would click and that Luton magic would begin to sparkle. But it's clear to every man and his dog that NJ is tactically bereft at this level. Please do not get caught up in who made Luton Town ..it was not NJ.. He made a couple of good signings to a solid team..
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Post by Deleted on Sept 27, 2019 21:58:00 GMT
he keeps banging on about how it’s all God’s Destiny or some shit. You suggest that he has done this many times. Can you provide a single link. That should be easy enough to do I would think.
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Jones out
Sept 27, 2019 21:58:44 GMT
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Post by supacoopa101 on Sept 27, 2019 21:58:44 GMT
Literally any other club would have sacked him weeks ago. Our board are so spineless its unreal. I just don't think the Board can accept he has been a failure. On paper his appointment seemed a visionary masterstroke - up-and-coming, young, hungry manager who had turned a bog-standard team around and led them to promotion from League 2 to League 1, then led League 1 for half a season. The Board put all their eggs (or should that be egos!) into NJ and must've hoped that something would click and that Luton magic would begin to sparkle. But it's clear to every man and his dog that NJ is tactically bereft at this level. Ignorance, naivety and failure to accept they have made a fuck up with NJ. It's a dangerous thing thinking we are too good of a club to go down again. They need to wake the fuck up.
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Jones out
Sept 27, 2019 21:59:37 GMT
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Post by heworksardtho on Sept 27, 2019 21:59:37 GMT
We didn’t deserve to lose tonight but we did , even there manager said that , I don’t know where we go from here
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Jones out
Sept 27, 2019 21:59:53 GMT
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Post by rorystowel on Sept 27, 2019 21:59:53 GMT
he keeps banging on about how it’s all God’s Destiny or some shit. You suggest that he has done this many times. Can you provide a single link. That should be easy enough to do I would think. Just listen to him speaking after matches, or do you need a link to that too?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 27, 2019 22:03:15 GMT
You suggest that he has done this many times. Can you provide a single link. That should be easy enough to do I would think. Just listen to him speaking after matches, or do you need a link to that too? I asked for a link to where NJ stated that it was God's destiny that we are in our present position.
Is that hard for you to understand?
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Post by stokerstayinup on Sept 27, 2019 22:04:30 GMT
I just don't think the Board can accept he has been a failure. On paper his appointment seemed a visionary masterstroke - up-and-coming, young, hungry manager who had turned a bog-standard team around and led them to promotion from League 2 to League 1, then led League 1 for half a season. The Board put all their eggs (or should that be egos!) into NJ and must've hoped that something would click and that Luton magic would begin to sparkle. But it's clear to every man and his dog that NJ is tactically bereft at this level. Please do not get caught up in who made Luton Town ..it was not NJ.. He made a couple of good signings to a solid team.. Please don't get caught up in making stuff up.Luton were 15th in league 2 when Jones took over.
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Post by crapslinger on Sept 27, 2019 22:08:06 GMT
I feel embarrassed for the guy. He needs to go for his own good as well as ours, but he keeps banging on about how it’s all God’s Destiny or some shit. Someone needs tell him fuck off now, seriously. Look I used to manage Luton Town I was a great manager, look behind the scenes we are working hard, we are so close to been a top top side, we just need a win to get us flying up the League god willing, look individual mistakes are costing us, I used to manage Luton Town and I was a great manager wash and rinse to repeat. Wake up Nath you are a failure at our club now do the decent Christian thing and f*ck off duck
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Post by shakermaker on Sept 27, 2019 22:10:46 GMT
I just don't think the Board can accept he has been a failure. On paper his appointment seemed a visionary masterstroke - up-and-coming, young, hungry manager who had turned a bog-standard team around and led them to promotion from League 2 to League 1, then led League 1 for half a season. The Board put all their eggs (or should that be egos!) into NJ and must've hoped that something would click and that Luton magic would begin to sparkle. But it's clear to every man and his dog that NJ is tactically bereft at this level. Please do not get caught up in who made Luton Town ..it was not NJ.. He made a couple of good signings to a solid team.. s Oh believe me, I don't. It's become clear that Luton's recruitment and a solid assistant manager digging him out of a hole every game has made NJ look like the genius he isn't. This whole disaster has opened everyone's eyes to the fact that a manager's success is rarely ever because of 'just' the manager!
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