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Post by salopstick on Jul 20, 2020 17:37:53 GMT
#ClintonBodyCount ? Convenient
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Post by Rednwhitenblue on Apr 30, 2021 7:14:40 GMT
Does anybody else feel that if this was Creepy Dave from down the road not a single news organisation would be remotely bothered about a bruise that has appeared on the remanded's face? www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-56938988Likewise the Telegraph paints her as the "frail" victim at every opportunity. Sounds like a few favours are being called in behind the scenes. Presumably to get her out so she can instantly disappear to a country without extradition to the US and spare Andy the Nonce any additional scrutiny. Hopefully, this is just a British media/royals/establishment thing which carries no weight in the States and she remains banged up until trial.
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Post by salopstick on Apr 30, 2021 8:38:21 GMT
In the grand scheme of things Prince Andrew is just a tip of the iceberg. There are far more names which would cause as much or more controversy across the pond
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Post by Rednwhitenblue on Apr 30, 2021 8:52:05 GMT
In the grand scheme of things Prince Andrew is just a tip of the iceberg. There are far more names which would cause as much or more controversy across the pond No doubt. It's strange how our press/media consistently takes the line that Ghislaine Maxwell is suffering in prison, frail, losing her hair and, effectively, the victim. I don't think for one second that any such consideration would be given to anyone without such obvious connections. You can only wonder why...
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Post by shakermaker on Apr 30, 2021 11:08:25 GMT
In the grand scheme of things Prince Andrew is just a tip of the iceberg. There are far more names which would cause as much or more controversy across the pond No doubt. It's strange how our press/media consistently takes the line that Ghislaine Maxwell is suffering in prison, frail, losing her hair and, effectively, the victim. I don't think for one second that any such consideration would be given to anyone without such obvious connections. You can only wonder why... People are going to want her dead as per the same way they disposed of Epstein. They can't just paint it as another random suicide though, at least not yet, as it would start to look more than a bit fishy. Perhaps these pictures are setting the scene as a woman who's clearly mentally fragile and on the edge, then a few months down the line when it's announced she also topped herself, her murder will look less suspicious.
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Post by Rednwhitenblue on Apr 30, 2021 12:19:58 GMT
No doubt. It's strange how our press/media consistently takes the line that Ghislaine Maxwell is suffering in prison, frail, losing her hair and, effectively, the victim. I don't think for one second that any such consideration would be given to anyone without such obvious connections. You can only wonder why... People are going to want her dead as per the same way they disposed of Epstein. They can't just paint it as another random suicide though, at least not yet, as it would start to look more than a bit fishy. Perhaps these pictures are setting the scene as a woman who's clearly mentally fragile and on the edge, then a few months down the line when it's announced she also topped herself, her murder will look less suspicious. Maybe. I wonder if that's why there are various "agencies" promoting her victim status on a regular basis at the moment? They can't just bump her off in the nick like with Epstein, as that'd be just too obvious, so the easiest way might be to pressurise the US into granting her bail, at which point she will disappear to some safe territory, never take the stand or potentially spend any more time in prison, and all her well-connected mates breath a sigh of relief?
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Post by walstoke on Apr 30, 2021 12:39:20 GMT
Does anybody else feel that if this was Creepy Dave from down the road not a single news organisation would be remotely bothered about a bruise that has appeared on the remanded's face? www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-56938988Likewise the Telegraph paints her as the "frail" victim at every opportunity. Sounds like a few favours are being called in behind the scenes. Presumably to get her out so she can instantly disappear to a country without extradition to the US and spare Andy the Nonce any additional scrutiny. Hopefully, this is just a British media/royals/establishment thing which carries no weight in the States and she remains banged up until trial. Bang on, nobody would blink an eye. If she is guilty as charged, she deserves a slap. The way the press go on is vomit worthy.
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Post by wagsastokie on Apr 30, 2021 15:32:37 GMT
People are going to want her dead as per the same way they disposed of Epstein. They can't just paint it as another random suicide though, at least not yet, as it would start to look more than a bit fishy. Perhaps these pictures are setting the scene as a woman who's clearly mentally fragile and on the edge, then a few months down the line when it's announced she also topped herself, her murder will look less suspicious. Maybe. I wonder if that's why there are various "agencies" promoting her victim status on a regular basis at the moment? They can't just bump her off in the nick like with Epstein, as that'd be just too obvious, so the easiest way might be to pressurise the US into granting her bail, at which point she will disappear to some safe territory, never take the stand or potentially spend any more time in prison, and all her well-connected mates breath a sigh of relief? I would suggest that’s bang on A bit like when her father allegedly fell off that boat
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Post by lordb on May 1, 2021 8:46:12 GMT
Maybe. I wonder if that's why there are various "agencies" promoting her victim status on a regular basis at the moment? They can't just bump her off in the nick like with Epstein, as that'd be just too obvious, so the easiest way might be to pressurise the US into granting her bail, at which point she will disappear to some safe territory, never take the stand or potentially spend any more time in prison, and all her well-connected mates breath a sigh of relief? I would suggest that’s bang on A bit like when her father allegedly fell off that boat Mossad was the popular theory
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Post by longdistancekiddie on May 2, 2021 22:43:58 GMT
In the grand scheme of things Prince Andrew is just a tip of the iceberg. There are far more names which would cause as much or more controversy across the pond Like who,??
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Post by raythesailor on May 3, 2021 8:55:15 GMT
I would suggest that’s bang on A bit like when her father allegedly fell off that boat Mossad was the popular theory The Contras. CIA. Oliver North. Ronald Reagan. Margret Thatcher. Maxwell . Splash
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Post by felonious on May 3, 2021 10:14:52 GMT
I would suggest that’s bang on A bit like when her father allegedly fell off that boat Mossad was the popular theory Middle of the night with a silver hammer.
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Post by zerps on May 3, 2021 10:24:11 GMT
Conspiracy theories are invented to cloud the truth forever
The media play a big part in clouding truth
It’s all a giant cluster fuck
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Post by salopstick on May 12, 2022 13:36:39 GMT
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Post by Gob Bluth on May 12, 2022 16:21:03 GMT
Conspiracy theories are invented to cloud the truth forever The media play a big part in clouding truth It’s all a giant cluster fuck I love that these two posts live next to each other.
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Post by Rednwhitenblue on Jun 27, 2022 11:28:44 GMT
DT suggesting that Maxwell's sentencing, due this week, may be delayed. The rest of the report carries on the approach they've applied throughout much of their coverage of her, ie that she is essentially the victim now and is being treated unfairly. It's a somewhat strange approach, although once you've become part of the establishment and have made those connections, they do tend to come in handy. After all, the real victims are "nobodies".
Prosecutors want the full 55 year jail term, the probation department recommended 20 years, official guidelines suggest slightly more than that. Maxwell's team think it should be five.
I'd be quite surprised if it's much more than ten but you never know. I also wonder if, after sentencing, she's allowed to serve her time in the UK, and that outcome eventually works towards an early release. She's 60. I'll be amazed if she's still in jail at 70.
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Jun 28, 2022 18:40:12 GMT
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Post by cvillestokie on Jun 28, 2022 18:46:18 GMT
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Post by Rednwhitenblue on Jun 28, 2022 18:57:57 GMT
Good sentence which reflects the degree of her involvement and the seriousness of her crimes.
However, it'll be interesting to see how much time she actually spends behind bars and where.
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Post by toppercorner on Jun 28, 2022 19:17:13 GMT
Good sentence which reflects the degree of her involvement and the seriousness of her crimes. However, it'll be interesting to see how much time she actually spends behind bars and where. I'm going to hazard a guess, that she won't come out. Knows too much, and now she's been sentenced, she's got nothing to lose by spilling the beans. It'll be another case of where all the cctv fails, no guards on duty, and she mysteriously tops herself. (Like Epstein)
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Jun 28, 2022 19:19:35 GMT
Good sentence which reflects the degree of her involvement and the seriousness of her crimes. However, it'll be interesting to see how much time she actually spends behind bars and where. I wish they’d do another series of Bad Girls. Ace that was.
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Post by cvillestokie on Jun 28, 2022 19:27:01 GMT
Good sentence which reflects the degree of her involvement and the seriousness of her crimes. However, it'll be interesting to see how much time she actually spends behind bars and where. 20 years is nothing. They should have given her that for each victim (at minimum). She should never be allowed fresh, free air again. I hope she goes senile in there, shits herself and dies, afraid and alone.
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Jun 28, 2022 19:28:55 GMT
Good sentence which reflects the degree of her involvement and the seriousness of her crimes. However, it'll be interesting to see how much time she actually spends behind bars and where. 20 years is nothing. They should have given her that for each victim (at minimum). She should never be allowed fresh, free air again. I hope she goes senile in there, shits herself and dies, afraid and alone. That would be the preference but as someone said above she’ll probably kill herself unfortunately
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Post by cvillestokie on Jun 28, 2022 19:31:38 GMT
20 years is nothing. They should have given her that for each victim (at minimum). She should never be allowed fresh, free air again. I hope she goes senile in there, shits herself and dies, afraid and alone. That would be the preference but as someone said above she’ll probably kill herself unfortunately Cheaper for me if she does. To be honest, I feel guilty for writing what I said, but she is scum.
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Post by marylandstoke on Jun 28, 2022 19:36:29 GMT
Mossad was the popular theory Middle of the night with a silver hammer. Now that’s just beautiful.
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Post by felonious on Jun 28, 2022 19:45:27 GMT
Middle of the night with a silver hammer. Now that’s just beautiful. Thank you. In another year's time perhaps someone else will get it
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Post by wannabee on Jun 28, 2022 19:50:39 GMT
No Parole when convicted of Federal Crimes
She would be 80 if she ever got out
I would imagine the authorities would try and entice her with the prospect of better accommodation if she names names
Not sure if she has exhausted all her avenues of appeal, if she has she may weigh up her prospects of a more comfortable way to see out her days versus the possibility of being topped if she opens her mouth
Very significant that Virginia Guiffre made a victim impact statement thereby officially acknowledging her as such even though she wasn't part of the Maxwell trial
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Post by The Drunken Communist on Jun 28, 2022 19:54:40 GMT
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Post by turtlefox on Jun 28, 2022 20:03:07 GMT
Now that’s just beautiful. Thank you. In another year's time perhaps someone else will get it and they both went out with a whimper.
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Post by Rednwhitenblue on Jun 28, 2022 20:29:23 GMT
Good sentence which reflects the degree of her involvement and the seriousness of her crimes. However, it'll be interesting to see how much time she actually spends behind bars and where. I'm going to hazard a guess, that she won't come out. Knows too much, and now she's been sentenced, she's got nothing to lose by spilling the beans. It'll be another case of where all the cctv fails, no guards on duty, and she mysteriously tops herself. (Like Epstein) It's a good guess, right enough, but both of them...not so sure as that would make it look just too convenient. Not that that matters I suppose provided she is out of the way. My feeling is that she's probably kept some stuff back on the assumption that she might get a lengthy sentence, and now that she has, some highly influential people might be getting an unpleasant reminder that she knows some stuff that they'd rather no-one knew about, which is quite nice leverage if you want a shorter sentence served in the UK. I hope I'm wrong and she does at least 15 years but I wouldn't be at all surprised if she's transferred to the UK and out in around five.
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