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Post by shakermaker on Jul 2, 2020 14:33:11 GMT
Some people not sleeping well tonight Suicide imminent They surely couldn't get away with it twice. She needs round the clock protection until trial. Something tells me there are some big hitters other than Randy Andy who could come out of this looking messy. Hopefully she left evidence with a trusted associate before she was captured.
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Post by Rednwhitenblue on Jul 2, 2020 14:58:29 GMT
Some people not sleeping well tonight Suicide imminent They surely couldn't get away with it twice. She needs round the clock protection until trial. Something tells me there are some big hitters other than Randy Andy who could come out of this looking messy. Hopefully she left evidence with a trusted associate before she was captured. Yes, no doubt calling in favours as we speak...
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Post by JoeinOz on Jul 2, 2020 15:03:53 GMT
well what can you say...
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Post by kustokie on Jul 2, 2020 16:04:38 GMT
They surely couldn't get away with it twice. She needs round the clock protection until trial. Something tells me there are some big hitters other than Randy Andy who could come out of this looking messy. Hopefully she left evidence with a trusted associate before she was captured. Yes, no doubt calling in favours as we speak... The fact that a long time elapsed strongly suggests that the she has done a plea deal with the DOJ in return for naming names. Lots of big names have been allegedly implicated Including the Clintons (plural), Alan Dershowitz (big name lawyer and Trump apologist) and some top scientists at MIT where Epstein was big donor. Trump doesn’t seem to be near this, except for the widely reported story that Maxwell recruited massage therapists from his resort at Mar-a-Largo. not related to football but much more interesting than the dross being served up by Stoke. But let’s not lose sight of the victims of this heinous business.
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Post by lordb on Jul 2, 2020 16:21:08 GMT
Some people not sleeping well tonight Suicide imminent surely that should be 'suicide' imminent?
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Post by thisisouryear on Jul 2, 2020 17:05:58 GMT
Some people not sleeping well tonight Suicide imminent Sadly I think that could well happen. A lot of people with money will want this woman dead depending on what she knows and Trump could be one of them.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 2, 2020 20:33:41 GMT
Did anyone watch ch4 Dispatches? Prince and the paedophile? I think we read that at school Mark Twain wasn't it ? I remember the TV adaptation with Nicholas Lyndhurst
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Post by salopstick on Jul 2, 2020 20:58:15 GMT
Charged looking at lots of jail time.
Snitches get stitches
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Post by starkiller on Jul 2, 2020 21:47:03 GMT
If you have any doubts that Epstein killed himself you are a crazy conspiracy theorist.
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Post by thisisouryear on Jul 2, 2020 22:37:52 GMT
If you have any doubts that Epstein killed himself you are a crazy conspiracy theorist. What with the names he could have taken down with him? Am I now in the club?
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Post by thisisouryear on Jul 2, 2020 22:44:57 GMT
Charged looking at lots of jail time. Snitches get stitches Coronavirus is rife in those prisons.
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Post by Cast no shadow on Jul 3, 2020 17:20:23 GMT
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Post by marylandstoke on Jul 3, 2020 19:58:03 GMT
You would've thought they'd have caught him a bit sooner given that he apparently lived somewhere called Paedophile Island. He wasn't exactly hiding it much was he? And flew there on the Lolita Express!
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Post by Pretty Little Boother on Jul 4, 2020 8:09:06 GMT
I bet she gets corona and dies.
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Post by Seymour Beaver on Jul 4, 2020 8:36:09 GMT
Charged looking at lots of jail time. Snitches get stitches Coronavirus is rife in those prisons. I would have thought she'd probably still prefer to take her chances with corona and stay in jail. If she gets bail then a fall off the back of a boat or a high speed crash in an underpass surely awaits.
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Post by Rednwhitenblue on Jul 4, 2020 9:02:14 GMT
From today's DT
Exclusive: Ghislaine Maxwell 'won't sell Prince Andrew out' Socialite will never offer information on the Duke of York as part of a plea deal, insists one of her closest friends
As a new photograph on Friday night emerged of the socialite sitting in the Throne Room at Buckingham Palace, Laura Goldman, who has been friends with Ms Maxwell for several years, told The Telegraph she would “never sell out” Prince Andrew.
The extraordinary image, showing the 58-year-old lounging on a throne alongside the Hollywood actor Kevin Spacey, emerged after she was arrested on sex-trafficking charges linked to Jeffrey Epstein on Thursday. It is believed to have been taken in 2002 – three years before the police began investigating the late financier for child-sex crimes.
It is thought Ms Maxwell’s arrest could have significant implications for the Duke, 60, who was reportedly introduced to the billionaire paedophile by her in 1999.
In an exclusive interview, former New York stockbroker Ms Goldman sensationally claims that Ms Maxwell had a “fling” with the Queen’s son, with whom she has remained close friends, last meeting at Buckingham Palace in July 2019.
“The only way she can walk is if she gives someone up, but that definitely won’t be Andrew,” said Ms Goldman.
“She is so appreciative that when she first came to New York, the Duke helped to launch her into high society. She always talks about what a true friend he is. She doesn’t see any reason to speak about him to the authorities.”
Ms Goldman suggested that the Duke’s “sense of entitlement” may have blinded him to what was going on inside Epstein’s depraved world.
She said: “Ghislaine’s always told me that Andrew’s kind of stupid and naive and if there were girls in the house while he was there, he would have thought they were servants. “All these people thinking he is evil are just wrong. He is just the kind of entitled person who sees everyone as a servant.”
Ms Goldman suggested that Ms Maxwell is more likely to talk about former US president Bill Clinton and President Donald Trump, who were among the disgraced businessman’s high-profile associates. No allegations have been made about either man.
Ms Maxwell was discovered in Bradford, a small town in New Hampshire, and charged with helping to entice underage girls to travel for sex and lying to investigators. It is not known how she will plead.
It is understood she has been moved from Bradford, where she was arrested after evading investigators for a year, to a nearby federal facility before a court appearance in New York.
The youngest daughter of the late media tycoon Robert Maxwell is central to allegations made by Virginia Roberts Giuffre, who claims she was trafficked from the US to London and was forced to sleep with the Duke when she was 17.
The Duke himself has always strongly denied the claims, maintaining that he has no recollection of meeting Ms Giuffre.
She alleges she was introduced to the Duke in Ms Maxwell’s London home in March 2001, with a now-infamous photograph of the Duke with his arm around the younger woman said to have been taken at the residence.
Ms Maxwell is accused of lying about Epstein’s sexual activities, including the recruitment of underage girls for sexual massages, and his use of sex toys. The perjury allegations are the only charges brought against Ms Maxwell to date that relate to a period of time when the Duke knew Epstein.
The more serious offences of child sex trafficking and grooming are alleged to have taken place between 1994 and 1997, two years before the Duke was introduced to Epstein.
US prosecutors said they would “welcome” the Duke’s testimony as part of the ongoing FBI investigation.
His lawyers claim they twice contacted the US Department of Justice in the past month but received no response. On Friday, the Duke’s legal problems mounted after a new lawsuit from one of Epstein’s alleged victims was filed on Thursday.
The civil claim is being brought by Caroline Kaufman, now 26, who alleges that she was sexually abused by Epstein in 2010 when she was 17 at the financier’s New York mansion. She claims that she was raped while the Duke of York was visiting. Ms Kaufman said she was invited to the house for a “modelling interview”, according to the claim seen by The Daily Telegraph that was filed at the Manhattan Federal Court against Epstein’s $630 million (£505 million) estate.
Prince Andrew was pictured leaving the Upper East Side townhouse in 2010, two years after Epstein was convicted by a Florida state court of procuring an underage girl for prostitution.
The Duke claimed he had travelled to the US to cut ties with Epstein, who committed suicide last year in a new York cell while facing fresh charges.
The lawsuit does not accuse the Duke of wrongdoing or of being aware of the alleged attack. He has previously said of Epstein, who died in prison last year: “At no stage during the limited time I spent with (Epstein) did I see, witness or suspect any behavior of the sort that subsequently led to his arrest and conviction.”
Audrey Strauss, acting US Attorney for the Southern District for New York, has urged the Duke to come forward to be questioned.
Since the arrest of Ms Maxwell, the Duke has not yet seen the Queen, who remains in isolation at Windsor Castle.
Why do we offer such unquestioning deference to these in-bred morons?
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Post by thisisouryear on Jul 4, 2020 9:58:39 GMT
Coronavirus is rife in those prisons. I would have thought she'd probably still prefer to take her chances with corona and stay in jail. If she gets bail then a fall off the back of a boat or a high speed crash in an underpass surely awaits. Maybe I should have just said people who possibly hold information on many wealthy people are more likely to die from Covid19 whilst in prison.
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Post by Pretty Little Boother on Jul 4, 2020 10:43:29 GMT
I would have thought she'd probably still prefer to take her chances with corona and stay in jail. If she gets bail then a fall off the back of a boat or a high speed crash in an underpass surely awaits. Maybe I should have just said people who possibly hold information on many wealthy people are more likely to die from Covid19 whilst in prison. That new strain of corona that leaves your hands cable-tied behind your back, a sock rolled up in your mouth and a gunshot in the back of the head.
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Post by raythesailor on Jul 4, 2020 11:10:01 GMT
Coronavirus is rife in those prisons. I would have thought she'd probably still prefer to take her chances with corona and stay in jail. If she gets bail then a fall off the back of a boat or a high speed crash in an underpass surely awaits. For many years I have always disbelieved that Robert Maxwell fell of his boat in the middle of the night. Financially in big trouble my theory is that he “Had Something On” Thatcher and Reagan which he was threatening to expose unless he got help. It possibly involved the Arms for Contras scandal, which Reagan denied knowledge of. It may well have been Mossad who did the dirty deed. To turn a boat around several hours later and find a body in the middle of the Mediterranean Sea is virtually impossible. ⚓️
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Post by Seymour Beaver on Jul 4, 2020 11:35:52 GMT
I would have thought she'd probably still prefer to take her chances with corona and stay in jail. If she gets bail then a fall off the back of a boat or a high speed crash in an underpass surely awaits. For many years I have always disbelieved that Robert Maxwell fell of his boat in the middle of the night. Financially in big trouble my theory is that he “Had Something On” Thatcher and Reagan which he was threatening to expose unless he got help. It possibly involved the Arms for Contras scandal, which Reagan denied knowledge of. It may well have been Mossad who did the dirty deed. To turn a boat around several hours later and find a body in the middle of the Mediterranean Sea is virtually impossible. ⚓️ You would have thought Ms Maxwell would have been shrewd enough to have a conversation with her lawyer along the lines of "Look I'm going to enter into a plea bargain which will give them just enough - however here's a full statement to be published in the event if my untimely demise - keep it somewhere safe".
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Post by Rednwhitenblue on Jul 4, 2020 16:39:52 GMT
For many years I have always disbelieved that Robert Maxwell fell of his boat in the middle of the night. Financially in big trouble my theory is that he “Had Something On” Thatcher and Reagan which he was threatening to expose unless he got help. It possibly involved the Arms for Contras scandal, which Reagan denied knowledge of. It may well have been Mossad who did the dirty deed. To turn a boat around several hours later and find a body in the middle of the Mediterranean Sea is virtually impossible. ⚓️ You would have thought Ms Maxwell would have been shrewd enough to have a conversation with her lawyer along the lines of "Look I'm going to enter into a plea bargain which will give them just enough - however here's a full statement to be published in the event if my untimely demise - keep it somewhere safe". You would've thought Epstein would've done something similar though, given all the dirt he must have had on people...surely that'd be the first thing you'd do?
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Post by Seymour Beaver on Jul 4, 2020 17:15:19 GMT
You would have thought Ms Maxwell would have been shrewd enough to have a conversation with her lawyer along the lines of "Look I'm going to enter into a plea bargain which will give them just enough - however here's a full statement to be published in the event if my untimely demise - keep it somewhere safe". You would've thought Epstein would've done something similar though, given all the dirt he must have had on people...surely that'd be the first thing you'd do? Maxwell's had longer to think about it though.....as well as seeing what happened to Jeff the nonce. Epstein probably thought his friends in high places would actually protect him - rather than dropping him like a stone.
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Post by Rednwhitenblue on Jul 5, 2020 9:14:01 GMT
You would've thought Epstein would've done something similar though, given all the dirt he must have had on people...surely that'd be the first thing you'd do? Maxwell's had longer to think about it though.....as well as seeing what happened to Jeff the nonce. Epstein probably thought his friends in high places would actually protect him - rather than dropping him like a stone. Not really, Epstein was kiddie fiddling for years and entertaining guests for years too, so he'd have had a big old dossier of dirt to dish. Surely, that'd be the first thing you'd do once you knew you were potentially in for a long stretch if cornered. And you'd make it known that you had it.
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Post by Seymour Beaver on Jul 5, 2020 9:59:56 GMT
Maxwell's had longer to think about it though.....as well as seeing what happened to Jeff the nonce. Epstein probably thought his friends in high places would actually protect him - rather than dropping him like a stone. Not really, Epstein was kiddie fiddling for years and entertaining guests for years too, so he'd have had a big old dossier of dirt to dish. Surely, that'd be the first thing you'd do once you knew you were potentially in for a long stretch if cornered. And you'd make it known that you had it. Then maybe he couldn't trust his lawyer as much as he thought he could. "Hey Tony - I need you to go public with 'the file' 'Sorry Jeff - no can do - there's - er - family to consider" "Warder - this prisoner seems to have just choked on his own shoelaces!!" Ghislaine had better use a different one!
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Post by felonious on Jul 5, 2020 10:39:56 GMT
I would have thought she'd probably still prefer to take her chances with corona and stay in jail. If she gets bail then a fall off the back of a boat or a high speed crash in an underpass surely awaits. For many years I have always disbelieved that Robert Maxwell fell of his boat in the middle of the night. Financially in big trouble my theory is that he “Had Something On” Thatcher and Reagan which he was threatening to expose unless he got help. It possibly involved the Arms for Contras scandal, which Reagan denied knowledge of. It may well have been Mossad who did the dirty deed. To turn a boat around several hours later and find a body in the middle of the Mediterranean Sea is virtually impossible. ⚓️ It was a big body.
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Post by FbrgVaStkFan on Jul 7, 2020 23:52:53 GMT
I don't like her odds.
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Post by serpico on Jul 20, 2020 12:40:41 GMT
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Post by salopstick on Jul 20, 2020 12:59:40 GMT
#ClintonBodyCount ?
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Post by Rednwhitenblue on Jul 20, 2020 14:21:26 GMT
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Post by serpico on Jul 20, 2020 17:21:27 GMT
#ClintonBodyCount ?
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