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Post by chigstoke on Aug 6, 2019 10:36:37 GMT
A true talent. Him and Ric of our recent history had the bums off of seats ability to make you see what it could be like to be a Stoke supporter. He has what we lack now. That extra bit of skill and ability. A player who I still believe could boss this division, given the chance. A player who has left while we lumber around the likes of McClean and Clucas. A sad day for Stoke City and it's fans, but unfortunately seemingly not a sad day for the management and a half arsed goodbye from the club to a player the fans adored. End of an era really, as the last of the Stokealona BMX trio departs. Stoke City can fuck off for today. Just today. Unless we lose on Saturday, they can fuck off then as well
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Post by mickmillslovechild on Aug 6, 2019 10:38:06 GMT
Have to wish him luck.
Never refused an opportunity, never moaned about or refused to play if he was picked out of position, never refused a club when being sent out on loan. One of those rare players nowadays who seems to care less about money and the name of a club, and far more about just playing the sport he loves regularly and that itself deserves credit in the current footballing climate.
Ok, so he didn't produce wonders week in, week out and (personal opinion only) i don't think he's cut out for the physicality of English football (like many of the current starting 11 it appears!)...but, he was the first player since Ric that genuinely had us all excited when he picked up a ball and had us creaming when he did pull off moments of magic.
Cheers for the last few years fella!! Never gave anything but his best, it didn't work out. It happens but we should all be thanking him for his efforts (he can't help it if managers don't pick him). I'm no Bojan obsessive or fanboy by any means, but am glad he now has an opportunity to at least try to find somewhere that he can get regular gametime. Personally i just don't see why so many are so quick to just come out with negative comments myself...don't remember him ever being any kind of bad egg or disciplinary nightmare or not being fucked whilst on the pitch, or getting into any kind of bother. Fair enough some think he's a legend, some don't...some think he was unfairly frozen out, some think there's a reason so many managers never played him. Same old arguments, we've all heard them before, but is it too hard an ask to just drop the one upmanship against other posters on here for once and just wish the little chap the best of luck? If nothing else, he put a smile on most of our faces a fair few times over the last 5 years.
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Post by Staffsoatcake on Aug 6, 2019 10:43:22 GMT
I just find it all a bit strange, he didn’t do it anywhere near long enough to be considered a club legend. They say there’s none so blind as those who will not see, You think Bojan is Joe average or worse. Sergei Shtanyuk, a real pro defender for Stoke, who many stoke fans have massive respect for, thinks Bojan “is the most technically gifted player he has ever seen at Stoke”. (See his tweet an hour or so ago) Opinions eh? Legend is a loosely used term but it can be earned over ten years, or it can be earned in a few moments of magic of which other players are incapable, and which produce lifelong memories. I don’t think any player without something special provokes this type of reaction when he leaves a club. Will many fans be talking about McLean Clucas and Afobe in twenty years time? Personally I doubt it. I think McClean will be talked about in 20 years time,when fans are talking about some of the dross that have played for Stoke City in the past 20 years.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 6, 2019 10:43:46 GMT
but I’m struggling to name anyone from our extensive list of dreary also-rans who gives me any hope for a bright stoke city future, not a one. I could think of one. Verlinden. Like you know who, he couldn't even get on Jones' bench vs qpr... Would not at all be surprised to see him move on too soon.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 6, 2019 10:51:29 GMT
When Bojan left us the first time, I said on this forum that I felt as bad as when Greenhoff left us way back in 1976. That this was like parting with a part of your own soul.
Someone gave me a belting and said it was sacrilege.
But I stand by every word.
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Post by mrcoke on Aug 6, 2019 10:51:43 GMT
Just for the record I'll post this analysis one last time:
The facts: Bojan has started in 8 games last season and appeared 12 times as substitute, usually very late in the game, and scored one brilliant goal to equalise at Rotherham -(A)
The only game when he played 90 minutes, we drew 0-0 with ShWed.
Stoke were winning when he has come off in 5 of his 8 starts in the league this season, namely Brentford, Bolton, Blackburn, Forest, and Rotherham (H)
We were drawing against Birmingham and losing the other at Hull, (where in my opinion he was our best player for the first 60 minutes) and we should have been drawing (missed penalty).
Hull scored as soon as he went off.
Conclusion: We were usually the winning side when Bojan was playing.
Opinion: Bojan has not always played well, he is poor at defending, and he is easily brushed off the ball, but we have invariably played worse when he has been substituted., not better.
The fact that the manager substituted him so often when we were winning the match was due to the manager wanting to protect the lead, not go for more goals.
His substitution at Hull was "criminal". He was clearly our best player on the day at the top of the diamond, Indi was poor and Clucas was having a mare, playing in the right side. Ince and Afobe came on and were totally disinterested in playing, as far as they were concerned the match was lost, why bother?
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Post by clarkeda on Aug 6, 2019 10:52:22 GMT
What a proper shit send off that is for him.
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Post by jimmygscfc on Aug 6, 2019 11:10:16 GMT
Why we have never tried playing him as a second striker is beyond me. He could play alongside Vokes or Afobe, or even Campbell in time with Powell sitting in there just behind but no, it wasn't to be. I just don't think Rowett or Jones are the type to play a Catalan fancy dan, because that's obviously what they thought of him.
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Post by biglad180 on Aug 6, 2019 11:10:46 GMT
How has our club come to this sorry mess we are in now just a few years ago we were beating all the top teams playing great football with the likes of arnie. Shaqiri.bojan. a lot more heads should have rolled for this not just the managers.we have become a joke.club.with fucking freebie no one else wants.
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Post by werrington on Aug 6, 2019 11:16:01 GMT
How has our club come to this sorry mess we are in now just a few years ago we were beating all the top teams playing great football with the likes of arnie. Shaqiri.bojan. a lot more heads should have rolled for this not just the managers.we have become a joke.club.with fucking freebie no one else wants. Not on this thread eh big lad That subject has been done to death 12 times a week
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Post by okeydokeystokie2 on Aug 6, 2019 11:17:34 GMT
On his day, a beautiful footballer to watch. His combination of vision, awareness, movement and skill was mesmerising. I remember Pat Nevin saying after we beat Manchester City at home that his fist touch took out one or two opposition players.
Good luck to Bojan. I really hope he re-discovers the magic wherever he goes.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 6, 2019 11:19:27 GMT
Plenty of mention of the fans. No mention of anyone on the pay roll, past or present.
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Post by wakeypotter on Aug 6, 2019 11:20:26 GMT
Good Luck Bojan,thank you for some magical moments. For all fans who feel devastated about his departure please see below. We're waiting for your call Whatever you're going through, a Samaritan will face it with you. We're here 24 hours a day, 365 days a year. Call 116 123 for free Other ways you can get in touch You know, I might just give them a call, and fill out a survey for their services, in which I will say their services were recommended by a complete and utter bellend. How does that sound to you? I couldn’t have put it better myself.
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Post by elystokie on Aug 6, 2019 11:30:22 GMT
Now that will be a disaster if he ends up there 😳 Odd that they laughed their bollocks off when they saddled us with McCLean and now they want Bojan. They also don't seem to hanker after TP and his impressive tactic. Very strange... Good luck Bojan, whether you were on the bench or starting it gave just that glimmer of hope of seeing some class on the pitch.
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Post by greyman on Aug 6, 2019 11:30:56 GMT
Why we have never tried playing him as a second striker is beyond me. He could play alongside Vokes or Afobe, or even Campbell in time with Powell sitting in there just behind but no, it wasn't to be. I just don't think Rowett or Jones are the type to play a Catalan fancy dan, because that's obviously what they thought of him. There's a spectacular amount of history being rewritten all over social media about him right now. Most of it is based on 'never the same after his injury', even though the facts show he had his best season for us after his injury and it was Lesley's decision to drop him to the bench that coincided with his form falling away. There's a story in all of this, maybe about his mental state, motivation or ability to fit into the system or squad, but it certainly isn't the absolute bullshit being spread by people who are immune to facts.
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Post by PolPotter on Aug 6, 2019 11:34:59 GMT
How long will it be before we see a player of his class again!?
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Post by gaznandi on Aug 6, 2019 11:37:47 GMT
I hope he goes there, rips the Championship up, and I wouldn't even care if he raped us in the double fixtures as well. It'd certainly show this clown of a manager up in front of the whole division. Leeds fans want him too....
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Post by PotteringThrough on Aug 6, 2019 11:38:46 GMT
On his day, unplayable. Good luck Bojan.
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Post by OldStokie on Aug 6, 2019 11:39:42 GMT
Bojan, at your best you were worth the cost of a ticket just to watch you. Let's hope things turn out ok for you and please don't forget that you were taken to our hearts here at Stoke. Not many manage to do that so consider yourself something special, not only because at your best you were brilliant, but also because you never gave less than 100% and you had a great rapport with the fans.
Good luck Little Man in everything you do. An Oldstokie here doffs his flat cap to you to thank you for the special memories you gave me.
OS.
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Post by Pretty Little Boother on Aug 6, 2019 11:44:29 GMT
I hope he goes there, rips the Championship up, and I wouldn't even care if he raped us in the double fixtures as well. It'd certainly show this clown of a manager up in front of the whole division. Leeds fans want him too.... I know I said I wouldn't mind if he went to WBA, but on the other hand, I would spew if he went to Leeds.
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Post by davejohnno1 on Aug 6, 2019 11:45:45 GMT
What a proper shit send off that is for him. In truth it is pretty scandalous yet not in the least bit surprising.
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Post by Gary Hackett on Aug 6, 2019 11:46:25 GMT
Good player and genuine guy.
His time has been up for a while now but i hope he finds happiness and a return to form somewhere else.
Cheers fella.
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Post by numpty40 on Aug 6, 2019 11:47:27 GMT
My personal favourite player since the days of Hudson and Greenhoff. A wonderfully naturally gifted footballer that I feel privileged to have watched. All the very best for the future Bojan.
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Post by crapslinger on Aug 6, 2019 11:49:23 GMT
How long will it be before we see a player of his class again!? Never with this fcuking idiot as a manager, I would rather Jones fuck off than Bojan, at least he has killed the hope a disastrous appointment the sooner he goes the better.
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Post by noustie on Aug 6, 2019 11:51:07 GMT
Just for the record I'll post this analysis one last time: The facts: Bojan has started in 8 games last season and appeared 12 times as substitute, usually very late in the game, and scored one brilliant goal to equalise at Rotherham -(A) The only game when he played 90 minutes, we drew 0-0 with ShWed. Stoke were winning when he has come off in 5 of his 8 starts in the league this season, namely Brentford, Bolton, Blackburn, Forest, and Rotherham (H) We were drawing against Birmingham and losing the other at Hull, (where in my opinion he was our best player for the first 60 minutes) and we should have been drawing (missed penalty). Hull scored as soon as he went off. Conclusion: We were usually the winning side when Bojan was playing. Opinion: Bojan has not always played well, he is poor at defending, and he is easily brushed off the ball, but we have invariably played worse when he has been substituted., not better. The fact that the manager substituted him so often when we were winning the match was due to the manager wanting to protect the lead, not go for more goals. His substitution at Hull was "criminal". He was clearly our best player on the day at the top of the diamond, Indi was poor and Clucas was having a mare, playing in the right side. Ince and Afobe came on and were totally disinterested in playing, as far as they were concerned the match was lost, why bother? I think all that is a fair summation - I’m genuinely intrigued how he didn’t get the end of last season to prove if he could regain his form and confidence. With the diamond he could have played off Vokes or in the hole. If after say a run of 10 games he was pish then fine but on the other hand if he looked like hitting a purple patch again we’d have the best player in the league by a million miles. Fair enough he is lightweight but neither Ince nor Powell can tackle either and surely the whole point of the system is to carry the boy in the hole pulling the strings or the poacher upfront scoring the goals. Our side currently has neither.
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Post by clarkeda on Aug 6, 2019 11:51:33 GMT
What a proper shit send off that is for him. In truth it is pretty scandalous yet not in the least bit surprising. I could have edited a 3min clip of his best bits with ‘ole’ chant for sound in about 20 minutes, including finding the clips. Just sums this fucking club up. He’s the last player we’ve actually had a fucking connection with. But no, now we get Shusher Sam And Moron Mcclean taking me to the fans.
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Post by crapslinger on Aug 6, 2019 11:51:43 GMT
I hope he goes there, rips the Championship up, and I wouldn't even care if he raped us in the double fixtures as well. It'd certainly show this clown of a manager up in front of the whole division. Leeds fans want him too.... Stoke fans wanted him pity the tool in charge has no idea what he is doing, he's fucked the only diamond we had off another footballing dinosaur at the helm.
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Post by elystokie on Aug 6, 2019 12:11:06 GMT
How long will it be before we see a player of his class again!? I'll be amazed if we ever do, it'll only happen if we're lucky enough to get one through the youth system, we won't attract anyone with his class again in a transfer deal. At the risk of sounding like one of the TP nutter brigade, there is a chance he could return eventually, there's a few years yet before he's over the hill
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Post by sergeifaye on Aug 6, 2019 12:11:28 GMT
I wont be shedding any tears just because we wont have to hear the Bojan luvvies (the same ppl no doubt who slag TP off) banging on about him.
4 separate managers could see something the luvvies couldn't.
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Post by Bojan Mackey on Aug 6, 2019 12:12:51 GMT
I wont be shedding any tears just because we wont have to hear the Bojan luvvies (the same ppl no doubt who slag TP off) banging on about him. 4 separate managers could see something the luvvies couldn't. Those 4 managers who have gone on to have really successful careers yeah?
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