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Post by terrorofturfmoor on Aug 25, 2019 1:54:23 GMT
The next league game. He loses, he goes. Birmingham away??? See ya Nathe!!!
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Post by jezzascfc on Aug 25, 2019 2:14:24 GMT
Firstly, once we relieve Jones of his duties, we need to get rid of those who choose the next manager. Scholes, sacked please, and Coates junior to take a back seat, and bring in a football headhunter to find the right men for a new set up. Then we conduct a full and thorough review of everything at the club and choose a new CEO and a Technical Director to run things in a more professional manner, with a head coach below them. The whole structure, and those in it, have to change. Mezzanine, do you realize how precocious that sounds. What you’re saying is in essence “ hey Coates give us some more of your money ( many Millions) but stuff off we don’t want your input”. If it was my organization, I’d either want to be the big cheese or I’d take my money elsewhere. I think Steve Jobs said something along the lines of the secret of business is recruiting people who are cleverer than you and then letting them get on with it. Coates jnr is not a football man and, if his choices of manager these past two years are anything to go by, should not be allowed to choose another one. The owners need to go back to sitting in the stand and enjoying the results of their wealth, a return to the Premier League orchestrated by people who know far more about the business of football than they do.
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Post by GoBoks on Aug 25, 2019 3:00:38 GMT
Mezzanine, do you realize how precocious that sounds. What you’re saying is in essence “ hey Coates give us some more of your money ( many Millions) but stuff off we don’t want your input”. If it was my organization, I’d either want to be the big cheese or I’d take my money elsewhere. I think Steve Jobs said something along the lines of the secret of business is recruiting people who are cleverer than you and then letting them get on with it. Coates jnr is not a football man and, if his choices of manager these past two years are anything to go by, should not be allowed to choose another one. The owners need to go back to sitting in the stand and enjoying the results of their wealth, a return to the Premier League orchestrated by people who know far more about the business of football than they do. Who is going to tell the owner “ you’re not allowed to pick the manager”? And how long do you think they’ll be in a job after saying that?
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Post by JesusisaStokie on Aug 25, 2019 3:04:26 GMT
For me he gets until game 12, if weren't not at atleast around 12pts by then it's time to pull the trigger.
I will be honest and say that I doubt a new manager would get a different tune out of this team unfortunately
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Post by jezzascfc on Aug 25, 2019 14:24:00 GMT
I think Steve Jobs said something along the lines of the secret of business is recruiting people who are cleverer than you and then letting them get on with it. Coates jnr is not a football man and, if his choices of manager these past two years are anything to go by, should not be allowed to choose another one. The owners need to go back to sitting in the stand and enjoying the results of their wealth, a return to the Premier League orchestrated by people who know far more about the business of football than they do. Who is going to tell the owner “ you’re not allowed to pick the manager”? And how long do you think they’ll be in a job after saying that? It is about their realising that there are better people to do so, not an underling telling them that. You'd hope they would be self aware enough to see their last few selections have helped to put us in this mess. Faint hope, I know.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 25, 2019 14:26:42 GMT
Lose the next 2 and they'll pull the trigger
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Post by bornscfcdiescfc on Aug 25, 2019 16:12:44 GMT
While i was not in favour of NJ, I am not in favour of lurching either. He's bought and integrated a lot of players - That always takes time to settle - And there is a bigger job still going on in the background. So, would have targets something like this, with concern being proportional to how far below them he is:- 5 games - 5pts needed 10 games - 12 pts needed. 20 games - 25 pts needed 30 games - 40 pts needed 40 games - 56 pts needed 46 games - 66 pts needed Ending about 10th-12th and on the up. I can't take seriously the idea that we are aspiring for promotion with the work needed on this squad, both on and off the pitch. If we take his last 30 game record then it will take another 150 games to get to 66
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Post by Milkie on Aug 25, 2019 17:35:09 GMT
Looking at last seasons results, we were on 10 points after 10, do we use that as the target, fall short and your gone, so basically he needs to win 3 from the next 5 to survive, a real challenge for a man with a 3 in 26 record?
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Post by Milkie on Aug 31, 2019 16:51:37 GMT
Struggling now
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Post by Deleted on Sept 1, 2019 3:54:31 GMT
0.8 points per game in the League. 3 wins from 26. 21 goals scored.
Grim. Absolutely grim.
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Post by Milkie on Sept 14, 2019 15:58:06 GMT
Tick tock, so much for any sort of promotion, this is already a relegation battle, shocking from top to bottom
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Post by liathroid on Sept 14, 2019 15:59:00 GMT
10 men
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Post by minnierover on Sept 14, 2019 16:07:41 GMT
For me he gets until game 12, if weren't not at atleast around 12pts by then it's time to pull the trigger. I will be honest and say that I doubt a new manager would get a different tune out of this team unfortunately But it’s Jones’ team now, even if he didn’t sign them all it’s definitely his team. When you’re 1 up at home with 45 mins to play against an average side it’s quite reasonable to except the manager to rally the troops and get the 10 men to roll up their sleeves, dig deep and hold on for a point or three. Sadly Jones hasn’t got that ability to rally the troops, and of course the troops he bought happen to be shit.
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Post by toppercorner on Sept 14, 2019 16:11:18 GMT
For me he gets until game 12, if weren't not at atleast around 12pts by then it's time to pull the trigger. I will be honest and say that I doubt a new manager would get a different tune out of this team unfortunately But it’s Jones’ team now, even if he didn’t sign them all it’s definitely his team. When you’re 1 up at home with 45 mins to play against an average side it’s quite reasonable to except the manager to rally the troops and get the 10 men to roll up their sleeves, dig deep and hold on for a point or three. Sadly Jones hasn’t got that ability to rally the troops, and of course the troops he bought happen to be shit. His signings, have been shit, there's no shying away from that is there?
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Post by Milkie on Sept 14, 2019 16:12:50 GMT
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Post by liathroid on Sept 14, 2019 16:17:07 GMT
no but today ,we played well
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Post by Milkie on Sept 14, 2019 16:23:35 GMT
We may well have done, however, 1 point from 7 games, doesn’t allow the breathing space for unlucky losers.
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Post by Davef on Sept 14, 2019 16:25:50 GMT
With goal difference we're effectively five points adrift.
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Post by toptom007 on Sept 14, 2019 16:30:56 GMT
We've won 18 of our last 88 league games (20.45%). Ace being a Stoke fan. Just magnificent. 2017/18 was 7/38 (18%) 2018/19 was 11/46 (24%) 2019/20 is 0/4 (0%) NJ is 3/24 (13%) in total. And by the way, we've won 1 of our last 15 and none of our last 10. The stats suggest things are only getting worse. "There's nothing wrong with the process". Anyone want to calculate how many millions each win has cost us? Sum: £6.03m in summer window and Sum: £28.98m in last january for NJ signings (according to transfermarkt), So like ten mill a win?
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Post by robrigo on Sept 14, 2019 17:04:50 GMT
With goal difference we're effectively five points adrift. It’s frightening. Relegation would devastate this club.
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Post by robwahlmann on Sept 14, 2019 17:06:59 GMT
no but today ,we played well We have played well in at least 5 of our 7 games, but we still have only 1 point! We don't get points by style but results!
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Post by christhepotter on Sept 14, 2019 17:07:58 GMT
And , we had 10 me against Derby last year and still won , just an excuse , the guys useless , his stats are proof of that
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Post by Deleted on Sept 14, 2019 17:09:06 GMT
With goal difference we're effectively five points adrift. It’s frightening. Relegation would devastate this club. Don't worry. The club would do another overhaul.
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Post by robrigo on Sept 14, 2019 17:11:11 GMT
It’s frightening. Relegation would devastate this club. Don't worry. The club would do another overhaul. Root and branch mate, root and branch.
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Post by karl on Sept 14, 2019 17:16:36 GMT
I don't think we will be getting premotion this season does anyone else?
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Post by Milkie on Sept 14, 2019 17:19:55 GMT
No chance, wish I had had an insurance bet to cover relegation, just can’t believe how bad we are, I would give anything for a ground out 1-0 win, or a series of them would be even better!
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Post by Milkie on Sept 14, 2019 22:18:14 GMT
I don't think we will be getting premotion this season does anyone else? Doubt it !
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Post by spitthedog on Sept 14, 2019 22:22:05 GMT
I don't think we will be getting premotion this season does anyone else? It would be one of the great comebacks of all time if we did.
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Post by Gary Hackett on Sept 14, 2019 22:29:43 GMT
If he doesn't win one of the next 2 games he'll be gone.
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Post by Davef on Sept 14, 2019 22:32:59 GMT
If he doesn't win one of the next 2 games he'll be gone. We have to win the next three games to get to 10 points from 10 games which is what we were on at the same stage last season under Rowett. Personally, I think we're fucked.
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