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Post by Deleted on Aug 3, 2019 15:00:35 GMT
McClean at left-back, supported by Joe Allen, is such an obvious flaw it’s embarrassing. The pair of them haven’t got a clue what to do. Anyone with half a brain cell will target those pair of clowns. Footballers that look comfortable with everything at their feet except a football, can’t wait for Etebo to come back. He's a great player - but he's not the answer to that particular problem. Badou might, if he so chooses.
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Post by swampySCFC on Aug 3, 2019 15:01:03 GMT
We are a fucking menace to society. Stoke 0
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Post by questionable on Aug 3, 2019 15:01:20 GMT
that formation is utterly wank. Where is the midfield? We look utterly outnumbered There isn’t a formation to speak of, it’s a friggin myth that Jones has spun to get him through last season Nothing but nothing has changed surely Jones isn’t stupid enough to think that the likes of Afobe, McClean and a load of free signings will get the desired outcomes. Jones is to timid to gamble on the likes of Campbell, Verlanden and opts for pretty shit options, I’d like to say safe options but I’d be wrong. Overall NOT an improvement on Rowett at all
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Post by trickydicky73 on Aug 3, 2019 15:01:25 GMT
I just don't understand / see the tactics. The forwards are isolated, when we play into channels to Afobe, there is only Vokes in the box. The fullbacks aren't pushing like expected and it's hard to see where a goal is coming from. There's at least 5/6 players offering nothing today. I opened a thread a while back, asking about the diamond formation and people's opinions on it. For me it relies too much on the fullbacks and leaves us short in the middle. It's only one half of the first game, though, I suppose.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 3, 2019 15:01:35 GMT
The score is bad, but I'm not convinced that we can't turn this around.
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Post by Maccasbarmyarmy on Aug 3, 2019 15:02:04 GMT
allen is not professional footballer he is abysmal again I can’t wait for the day he leaves this football club. I’d even play Badou over him.yeah no positional sense just runs round like a dog with a stick should play Sorensen instead
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Post by Deleted on Aug 3, 2019 15:02:51 GMT
Some good things, some (really) not so good. HT stats (if they're of any interest): Stoke - v - QPR 3 - Shots - 3 0 - Shots on target - 2 67% - Pass Success % - 76% 54% - Aerial Duel Success - 46% 0 - Dribbles won - 1 7 - Tackles - 2 51% - Possession - 49% 67% - Pass Success % - 76% I'd put my house on Allen being responsible for 94% of that. Nope. There are way worse players when it comes to passing success (Allen's at 78.6%, 15 passes). Where those passes go is a different matter; he's mostly prodded it back to Cousins or the CBs (with 2(?) notable through balls for Afobe to chase). For comparison, our worst passers today, in terms of success rate: Afobe - 25%, 4 passes Vokes - 33%, 9 passes Clucas - 52%, 21 passes McClean - 53%, 19 passes Smith - 64%, 22 passes
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Post by chicagostokie on Aug 3, 2019 15:03:54 GMT
I just don't understand / see the tactics. The forwards are isolated, when we play into channels to Afobe, there is only Vokes in the box. The fullbacks aren't pushing like expected and it's hard to see where a goal is coming from. There's at least 5/6 players offering nothing today. I opened a thread a while back, asking about the diamond formation and people's opinions on it. For me it relies too much on the fullbacks and leaves us short in the middle. It's only one half of the first game, though, I suppose. It's early going, but for a manager who is so determined to play this formation, why not sign the correct players for it to work? We've talked it to death, but we are missing at least 3 players to make this work. Let's hope we make a few changes early and get some of that energy and effort back from the first 7 mins.
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Post by DavidY on Aug 3, 2019 15:04:16 GMT
Simple change for me would be to switch Clucas and Allen. Would help the full backs and make it easier to move the ball more quickly.
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Post by takeshikovacs on Aug 3, 2019 15:04:32 GMT
That Geoff Cameron looks just the kind of player we need.
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Post by Maccasbarmyarmy on Aug 3, 2019 15:05:04 GMT
That Geoff Cameron looks just the kind of player we need. 100% agree
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Post by Bojan Mackey on Aug 3, 2019 15:05:29 GMT
That Geoff Cameron looks just the kind of player we need. You always knew he’d try and play the game of his life against us the smarmy little bender.
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Post by Mr_DaftBurger on Aug 3, 2019 15:05:47 GMT
67% - Pass Success % - 76% I'd put my house on Allen being responsible for 94% of that. Nope. There are way worse players when it comes to passing success (Allen's at 78.6%, 15 passes). Where those passes go is a different matter; he's mostly prodded it back to Cousins or the CBs (with 2(?) notable through balls for Afobe to chase). For comparison, our worst passers today, in terms of success rate: Afobe - 25%, 4 passes Vokes - 33%, 9 passes Clucas - 52%, 21 passes McClean - 53%, 19 passes Smith - 64%, 22 passes That's pretty damning!
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Post by musik on Aug 3, 2019 15:06:09 GMT
Some good things, some (really) not so good. HT stats (if they're of any interest): Stoke - v - QPR 3 - Shots - 3 0 - Shots on target - 2 67% - Pass Success % - 76% 54% - Aerial Duel Success - 46% 0 - Dribbles won - 1 7 - Tackles - 2 51% - Possession - 49% Pretty even. They looked to be in chock after their goal.
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Post by JoeinOz on Aug 3, 2019 15:06:26 GMT
Ryan Giggs is there
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Post by musik on Aug 3, 2019 15:07:16 GMT
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Post by JoeinOz on Aug 3, 2019 15:08:49 GMT
He'd be faster!
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Post by Deleted on Aug 3, 2019 15:08:51 GMT
Please, please , please can we get a left back before Thursday!
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Post by chicagostokie on Aug 3, 2019 15:09:22 GMT
At this level, to have such a massive, obvious weakness at LB, is quite impressive. Any team watching this will just play down that wing every game.
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Post by liamo on Aug 3, 2019 15:09:54 GMT
Qpr figured out that pace destroys teams playing wingbacks
Honestly shocked
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Post by Bojan Mackey on Aug 3, 2019 15:10:08 GMT
Meanwhile Swansea score two in two minutes to turn the game around against Hull.
I wish we could do things like that.
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Post by nott1 on Aug 3, 2019 15:10:24 GMT
McClean off ffs
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Post by thefarpost on Aug 3, 2019 15:11:41 GMT
Meanwhile Swansea score two in two minutes to turn the game around against Hull. I wish we could do things like that. We are second from bottom now
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Post by xchpotter on Aug 3, 2019 15:12:46 GMT
McLean being targeted by QPR as a weak link... doesn't take a genius to work that out. How long will it take Jones to see it.
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Post by JoeinOz on Aug 3, 2019 15:12:58 GMT
wasted corner.
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Post by stokefc on Aug 3, 2019 15:13:05 GMT
this is fucking grim
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Post by davelistersdad on Aug 3, 2019 15:13:06 GMT
McClean may not be a LB but hes our ONLY attacking threat, embarrassing
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Post by duckdownunder59 on Aug 3, 2019 15:13:08 GMT
Oh my god
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Post by dreamtheater on Aug 3, 2019 15:13:09 GMT
oh dear ! -- game over
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Post by liamo on Aug 3, 2019 15:13:11 GMT
Lol
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