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Post by southernstokie95 on Jul 27, 2019 22:10:22 GMT
As a physio myself, if it’s a fracture with a dislocation after that mechanism of injury likely to be at least 4 months+ out and potential surgery to recover from. I fear at his age this will be a big one to come back from and unlikely to get back to his previous level. Massive shame as looked leaner with an extra yard of pace this pre-season!
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Post by bolders on Jul 27, 2019 22:11:19 GMT
Been told it’s a broken fibula, ankle, and a dislocation. Very bad news. He’s in surgery in the morning. Good luck Ryan for a speedy recovery. I might be wrong but broken bones isn’t as bad as damaged ligaments? Obviously it is devastating and I am so gutted for him (and stoke) - and I’m by no means saying otherwise - but could it have been worse if ligaments had been torn? Will depend on the break and how clean it is, if its the ankle and its the talus bone they have got to sort it out quick and he will be non load bearing for 3 months on that, i broke my talus bone and Crumlin A&E didn't see it, that was 2004 and mines is fooked now several surgeries and to no avail
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Post by Deleted on Jul 27, 2019 22:16:48 GMT
As a physio myself, if it’s a fracture with a dislocation after that mechanism of injury likely to be at least 4 months+ out and potential surgery to recover from. I fear at his age this will be a big one to come back from and unlikely to get back to his previous level. Massive shame as looked leaner with an extra yard of pace this pre-season! He’s 31, not 51. Surely his age isn’t an issue? I broke my ankle when I was 32 and was back to normal in 18 weeks. It wasn’t as bad as Ryan’s looked however.
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Post by Davef on Jul 27, 2019 22:23:02 GMT
As a physio myself, if it’s a fracture with a dislocation after that mechanism of injury likely to be at least 4 months+ out and potential surgery to recover from. I fear at his age this will be a big one to come back from and unlikely to get back to his previous level. Massive shame as looked leaner with an extra yard of pace this pre-season! He’s 31, not 51. Surely his age isn’t an issue? I broke my ankle when I was 32 and was back to normal in 18 weeks. It wasn’t as bad as Ryan’s looked however. You have to take into account that the likes of Lindsay and Collins are going to step into his shoes. There's not many Stoke players I love more than Ryan Shawcross, but time waits for no man.
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Post by Gods on Jul 27, 2019 22:23:44 GMT
It doesn't have to be either/or, broken bone or torn ligaments, it's very possible it could be both.
As an enthusiastic amateur medic I find it impossible to see how your ankle could turn around that far without tearing the ligaments which are the fibrous connecting tissue which attach bone to bone.
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Post by camstoke10 on Jul 27, 2019 22:25:08 GMT
It doesn't have to be either/or, broken bone or torn ligaments, it's very possible it could be both. As an enthusiastic amateur medic I find it impossible to see how your ankle could turn around that far without tearing the ligaments which are the fibrous connecting tissue which attach bone to bone. so if it was that how long would you say for a professional to recover A year?
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Post by musik on Jul 27, 2019 22:29:59 GMT
The severity level depends on how much it's dislocated. If it's surgery decided after a scan, then it's broken and dislocated pretty much.
Swedish medical text info on this however is rather hopeful. But it will take months.
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Post by kustokie on Jul 27, 2019 22:30:15 GMT
As a physio myself, if it’s a fracture with a dislocation after that mechanism of injury likely to be at least 4 months+ out and potential surgery to recover from. I fear at his age this will be a big one to come back from and unlikely to get back to his previous level. Massive shame as looked leaner with an extra yard of pace this pre-season! He’s 31, not 51. Surely his age isn’t an issue? I broke my ankle when I was 32 and was back to normal in 18 weeks. It wasn’t as bad as Ryan’s looked however. Age is a factor but not the only factor. Also, depends on nature of the fractures, proximity to joint, soft tissue damage, ligament damage, etc. different people respond differently. Possibility of post-op infection is also a factor. As said before, our 15 yr old son had similar injury and never fully recovered despite the best possible medical care. A big factor is how close the ends of the broken bones came to skin. Even if the fracture was not compound, damaged soft tissue can get infected, which may not respond to antibiotics. This has to be cleaned out surgically to prevent osteomyelitis.
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Post by ColonelMustard on Jul 27, 2019 22:54:41 GMT
Uckin ell Maybe we should have a separate "get well Ryan" thread on the off chance that during the long lay off he doesnt log in and end up finding out his career is over.
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Post by musik on Jul 27, 2019 23:17:29 GMT
Uckin ell Maybe we should have a separate "get well Ryan" thread on the off chance that during the long lay off he doesnt log in and end up finding out his career is over. He'll be back!
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Post by uskstokie on Jul 27, 2019 23:33:12 GMT
I really hope this is not the end of Ryan.... he is a stoke Legend in his own rights. Served the club well! Get well soon Ryan!!
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Post by borges on Jul 27, 2019 23:43:31 GMT
As a physio myself, if it’s a fracture with a dislocation after that mechanism of injury likely to be at least 4 months+ out and potential surgery to recover from. I fear at his age this will be a big one to come back from and unlikely to get back to his previous level. Massive shame as looked leaner with an extra yard of pace this pre-season! He’s 31, not 51. Surely his age isn’t an issue? I broke my ankle when I was 32 and was back to normal in 18 weeks. It wasn’t as bad as Ryan’s looked however. I'd also assume 'back to normal' for you wasn't back to the levels required of an elite athlete either.
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Post by franklin66 on Jul 28, 2019 7:07:59 GMT
Is there anything official it seems he's being written off without even knowing the extent of the injury.
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Post by questionable on Jul 28, 2019 7:12:19 GMT
Is there anything official it seems he's being written off without even knowing the extent of the injury. Expect something from the club in a week or so, Nixon will be our best bet soon
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Post by rondogmcmuffin on Jul 28, 2019 7:13:58 GMT
Eagerly anticipating multiple Daily Mail articles about Arsenal fans wishing Shawcross ill health and karma
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Post by franklin66 on Jul 28, 2019 7:14:08 GMT
Is there anything official it seems he's being written off without even knowing the extent of the injury. Expect something from the club in a week or so, Nixon will be our best bet soon So in a nut shell we don't know.
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Post by questionable on Jul 28, 2019 7:15:00 GMT
Expect something from the club in a week or so, Nixon will be our best bet soon So in a nut shell we don't know. Nope
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Post by franklin66 on Jul 28, 2019 7:15:45 GMT
So in a nut shell we don't know. Nope I'll keep my fingers crossed for the lad.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 28, 2019 7:18:44 GMT
He’s 31, not 51. Surely his age isn’t an issue? I broke my ankle when I was 32 and was back to normal in 18 weeks. It wasn’t as bad as Ryan’s looked however. I'd also assume 'back to normal' for you wasn't back to the levels required of an elite athlete either. How many levels of bone healing are there?
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Post by royalewithcheese on Jul 28, 2019 7:28:53 GMT
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Post by werrington on Jul 28, 2019 7:58:03 GMT
Eagerly anticipating multiple Daily Mail articles about Arsenal fans wishing Shawcross ill health and karma I’m awaiting Jim White shaking his head on SSN at the abuse he’s now getting from Arsenal fans Just for balance like
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Post by Robo10 on Jul 28, 2019 9:42:51 GMT
Some comments - career ending etc - you should keep them to yourselves until we know more, its utter horseshit!
If its broken, its going to be a few months out
If its tendons and ligaments it will depend on the severity on how long
Players have come back from all sorts - look at Ramsey himself!
Good luck Skipper, rest up, heal, come back stronger.
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Post by werrington on Jul 28, 2019 10:16:04 GMT
Some comments - career ending etc - you should keep them to yourselves until we know more, its utter horseshit! If its broken, its going to be a few months out If its tendons and ligaments it will depend on the severity on how long Players have come back from all sorts - look at Ramsey himself! Good luck Skipper, rest up, heal, come back stronger. If he’s broken his tib/fib he’ll be out for the season and a dislocation on top of that is not good so if that is the case he’s out virtually all season even if it’s not dislocated A few months even for a straight break is not true as any broken bone takes a minimum of six weeks to heal and and that depends on the severity Let’s hope the rumours aren’t true but whatever the injury I’ll doubt we’ll see him again until late season at best Rallying calls are one thing but realism is another Ryan will now know what exactly is up with him as it’s a break so he’ll have had his X-rays so nothing on here us going to be news to him
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Post by borges on Jul 28, 2019 10:20:06 GMT
I'd also assume 'back to normal' for you wasn't back to the levels required of an elite athlete either. How many levels of bone healing are there? It’s more to do with the ability to regain adequate mobility, strength and proprioception to train and play at the same standard as before the injury than whether or not bones etc. will actually heal. Good luck Ryan
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Post by Scrotnig on Jul 28, 2019 10:23:07 GMT
I wish our marvellous captain the very best but deep down I can’t help but feel this is the end of his career. ![:(](//storage.proboards.com/800541/images/4tzqvp1fxEemag_TAXLJ.gif) I’m sorry. I don’t want it to be that way but I’m just being realistic.
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Post by mattythestokie on Jul 28, 2019 10:23:49 GMT
Strangely emotional seeing his injury constantly on my social media. Don’t want to see it.
We’re not the same side with him out for just one game, never mind 6months. Praying it’s nothing too serious - for his sake more than anything.
The only positive this can bring is the development of Collins. Really hope that happens. Will make Ryan happy, I’m sure.
Get well soon, Captain!
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Post by Scrotnig on Jul 28, 2019 10:27:20 GMT
Some comments - career ending etc - you should keep them to yourselves until we know more, its utter horseshit! If its broken, its going to be a few months out If its tendons and ligaments it will depend on the severity on how long Players have come back from all sorts - look at Ramsey himself! Good luck Skipper, rest up, heal, come back stronger. Sorry but this is just well meaning mindless optimism. He’ll be out for the season at least and frankly I think that means it’s the end. Hopefully he can retain a major role at the club long term but it won’t be on the field. I’m a big fan of Ryan so it breaks my heart to say this. I’m not a ‘basher’. He’s been nothing but a fine representative of this club and is a huge part of what is now seen as our recent golden era. But maybe I’m wrong. I hope so.
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Post by Robo10 on Jul 28, 2019 10:28:13 GMT
He is 31 not 41!
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Post by Deleted on Jul 28, 2019 10:30:01 GMT
If anyone will work to come back it’s Ryan. I can’t imagine it will be the last we see of him. He won’t let that happen.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 28, 2019 10:39:14 GMT
Eagerly anticipating multiple Daily Mail articles about Arsenal fans wishing Shawcross ill health and karma The articles were running within minutes of the injury happening. To be fair, although a number of Arsenal fans were gloating an equal number of normal people including some Arsenal wished him well and called those disgusting for their attitude
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