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Post by sheikhmomo on Jul 25, 2019 19:15:57 GMT
The Ashes is becoming harder and harder to see isn't it. The incomings will help but if the Aussie's bowl as they can, we will completely collapse in 3 or 4 of the 10 innings you'd have thought and I don't think they will. Hard to win a series if that happens.
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Post by chuckrocky on Jul 25, 2019 20:34:47 GMT
The Ashes is becoming harder and harder to see isn't it. The incomings will help but if the Aussie's bowl as they can, we will completely collapse in 3 or 4 of the 10 innings you'd have thought and I don't think they will. Hard to win a series if that happens. The only reason I haven’t completely written us off yet is because the Aussie batting line up is almost as fragile as ours. They at least have an opener who averages 50 and their star batsman is capable of making big hundreds. I’m still clinging on to the hope that they’ll be stupid enough to play Starc and Hazlewood over Siddle and Pattinson.
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Post by sheikhmomo on Jul 25, 2019 20:37:41 GMT
The Ashes is becoming harder and harder to see isn't it. The incomings will help but if the Aussie's bowl as they can, we will completely collapse in 3 or 4 of the 10 innings you'd have thought and I don't think they will. Hard to win a series if that happens. The only reason I haven’t completely written us off yet is because the Aussie batting line up is almost as fragile as ours. They at least have an opener who averages 50 and their star batsman is capable of making big hundreds. I’m still clinging on to the hope that they’ll be stupid enough to play Starc and Hazlewood over Siddle and Pattinson. You'd have to be mental not to play Siddle over here against this England team wouldn't you.
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Post by chuckrocky on Jul 25, 2019 20:40:43 GMT
The only reason I haven’t completely written us off yet is because the Aussie batting line up is almost as fragile as ours. They at least have an opener who averages 50 and their star batsman is capable of making big hundreds. I’m still clinging on to the hope that they’ll be stupid enough to play Starc and Hazlewood over Siddle and Pattinson. You'd have to be mental not to play Siddle over here against this England team wouldn't you. Yes, but any side that not only picks Tim Paine but also makes him captain is capable of such stupidity.
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Post by partickpotter on Jul 25, 2019 20:41:17 GMT
The only reason I haven’t completely written us off yet is because the Aussie batting line up is almost as fragile as ours. They at least have an opener who averages 50 and their star batsman is capable of making big hundreds. I’m still clinging on to the hope that they’ll be stupid enough to play Starc and Hazlewood over Siddle and Pattinson. You'd have to be mental not to play Siddle over here against this England team wouldn't you. It would appear, based on the evidence of the last few years (including the current test), pretty much anyone would get our batsmen in a pickle.
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Post by Staffsoatcake on Jul 26, 2019 7:25:32 GMT
It was fantastic winning the W/C.but white ball cricket is having a poor effect on the red ball game.
The white ball ain't going away,so we have to find a way somehow,that it won't be the death of Proper Cricket
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Post by partickpotter on Jul 26, 2019 7:40:27 GMT
It was fantastic winning the W/C.but white ball cricket is having a poor effect on the red ball game. The white ball ain't going away,so we have to find a way somehow,that it won't be the death of Proper Cricket I don't buy into the argument that an emphasis on white ball cricket is causing the problems in our test cricket team. Other than the lessons learned in the limited overs game aren't being applied to the 5 day game. In particular, picking your best team by selecting the best players for the job at hand. The test team, regrettably, still seems to operate an old school tie approach to selection. It is very hard to break into that side, but once your in, it seems you won't be dropped no matter how bad you are playing. This has been going on for years. Bairstow is the latest example. At some point, continued poor performance must mean you are out. The same can be said for Mo.
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Post by GeneralFaye on Jul 26, 2019 8:56:10 GMT
It was fantastic winning the W/C.but white ball cricket is having a poor effect on the red ball game. The white ball ain't going away,so we have to find a way somehow,that it won't be the death of Proper Cricket I don't buy into the argument that an emphasis on white ball cricket is causing the problems in our test cricket team. Other than the lessons learned in the limited overs game aren't being applied to the 5 day game. In particular, picking your best team by selecting the best players for the job at hand. The test team, regrettably, still seems to operate an old school tie approach to selection. It is very hard to break into that side, but once your in, it seems you won't be dropped no matter how bad you are playing. This has been going on for years. Bairstow is the latest example. At some point, continued poor performance must mean you are out. The same can be said for Mo. Clean bowled 14 out of his last 30 dismissals, Bairstow. That's incredible for a proper batsman.
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Post by chuckrocky on Jul 26, 2019 10:11:43 GMT
Good effort that from Stone, really dug in this morning.
In all seriousness though, I don’t think there’s a better sight in cricket than a cartwheeling stump.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 26, 2019 10:11:53 GMT
Good start 😆
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Post by estrangedsonoffaye on Jul 26, 2019 10:19:03 GMT
Well there's probably no better time to bowl, it's just 182 may not be enough.
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Post by GeneralFaye on Jul 26, 2019 10:21:53 GMT
Broad needs one of his famous bowling spells, not only to win this match but to potentially save his test career. (As dramatic as that sounds)
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Post by chuckrocky on Jul 26, 2019 10:24:07 GMT
Well there's probably no better time to bowl, it's just 182 may not be enough. If we bowl at the top of off stump I think we’ve got enough. If we bowl the short and wide rubbish we often see from Broad and Woakes then Ireland have got every chance. Woakes was unplayable on this ground against India last summer in similar conditions. Let’s hope he can find his line and length.
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Post by estrangedsonoffaye on Jul 26, 2019 10:26:51 GMT
Gonna be one of those days I reckon, which probably helps us a lot more than it does Ireland.
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Post by AlliG on Jul 26, 2019 10:27:56 GMT
Well there's probably no better time to bowl, it's just 182 may not be enough. We will never know. The middle of a heatwave and it is raining at the cricket.
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Post by GeneralFaye on Jul 26, 2019 10:35:06 GMT
Rumours of Siddle being picked for the first Ashes test with Starc dropped because of his record there.. hope not.
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Post by estrangedsonoffaye on Jul 26, 2019 11:46:38 GMT
1 down 9 to go, good take from Bairstow.
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Post by estrangedsonoffaye on Jul 26, 2019 12:01:57 GMT
2, Broad on a decent length here. Scoring difficult.
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Post by GeneralFaye on Jul 26, 2019 12:05:33 GMT
3 down now, we should win from here but I'm sure there will be a partnership at some point.
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Post by estrangedsonoffaye on Jul 26, 2019 12:06:55 GMT
3 down now, we should win from here but I'm sure there will be a partnership at some point. Ireland probably letting us bowl a bit, a lot of the balls early on were way too wide or short and not punished. As is, we’ve found the length.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 26, 2019 12:19:13 GMT
Woakes is on fire
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Post by estrangedsonoffaye on Jul 26, 2019 12:20:47 GMT
Putting it into the good areas, something we never do at Lords first time around for some reason. Good bowling here mind.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 26, 2019 12:22:33 GMT
24-5 😲
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Post by GeneralFaye on Jul 26, 2019 12:25:44 GMT
Since the start of 2016 only Jimmy Anderson has a better record for England at home, that's why I'll always find a place for Woakes in my side.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 26, 2019 12:26:56 GMT
6
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Post by estrangedsonoffaye on Jul 26, 2019 12:41:28 GMT
Not many moments in this test match to laugh about, but Broad's "good try" face to Adair is probably one of them.
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Post by partickpotter on Jul 26, 2019 12:45:15 GMT
Full and straight.
So simple.
So wtf didn't we bowl like this at the start of the first innings. Oh I know - at least as far as Broad is concerned. He wasn't driven for 4 before picking up his first wicket.
Nice to see Root and Bairstow remember how to catch the ball.
Looks very likely we'll now win this game but it's not a game from which we emerge with much credit.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 26, 2019 12:48:46 GMT
Conditions have come to our "rescue" and we should now win very easily but it doesn't disguise a pitiful 1st innings and other problems.
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Post by estrangedsonoffaye on Jul 26, 2019 12:49:21 GMT
Full and straight. So simple. So wtf didn't we bowl like this at the start of the first innings. Oh I know - at least as far as Broad is concerned. He wasn't driven for 4 before picking up his first wicket. Nice to see Root and Bairstow remember how to catch the ball. Looks very likely we'll now win this game but it's not a game from which we emerge with much credit. To be fair, Root's been very reserved in his celebrations. He knows we've been embarrassed and outplayed in all bar two sessions here. As I said before, no laughing or jokes if we win. This was a shit display.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 26, 2019 12:50:03 GMT
Unbelievable bowling and catching
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