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Post by rogerjonesisgod on Dec 5, 2019 5:53:16 GMT
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Post by followyoudown on Dec 5, 2019 8:01:01 GMT
We’re really going round in circles here mate. I don’t care what you think is important or pertinent in the “real” fight against antisemitism. Is there an institutional problem of antisemitism in this Labour Party or not? Yes = acceptance, No = denial Similarly I’m making no judgement about your answer, you’re entitled to your opinion, just be sincere about what it is. Is there an institutional antisemitism problem in the Labour Party? Is there bollocks. And save your condescending crap about being "sincere", my view might not be the popular one but it's based on many conversations with my Jewish friends/neighbours/work colleagues on both sides of the argument, not by reading a few headlines. And it's always been a consistent one. I'll happily agree we're going round in circles though so I'll bid you goodnight........ I think the problem is you may not actually understand what being institutionally antisemitic means it does not mean everyone in the Labour party is a racist it does mean that jewish people are treated differently and get worse outcomes than non jewish people even Stevie Wonder can see this is the case under Labour.
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Post by followyoudown on Dec 5, 2019 8:04:24 GMT
What are they using it for,I would imagine for their own protection and exploitation,like everyone else who has power. And what do I mean by power.Wealth, money, influence. Power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely. In the pillars of authority,media and wealth the Jewish community have an awful lot of power for such people as you are waking up to. Do I care not particularly but I do see why many do. Still no answer to why my original post was deemed racist and why people are throwing the baby out of the bathwater about it. Yes just Eggy in a roundabout way saying the jews control the media and finance but luckily as partick said he once had a jewish girlfriend so he is definitely not racist at all no sir......
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Post by Eggybread on Dec 5, 2019 8:35:10 GMT
Ok I lived in Manchester for a few years many years ago, and went out with a jewish girl from Moston for many years so I do have first hand experience of the community. As a proportion of the population they do "have more power" than others this is a fact,its not a slur "even though it can be used as that" its certainly not antisemitic. "they're all in it together" was a parody of Cameron's statement, as in people think every jew is against Labour. maybe didnt some across correct.The downfall of the internet. I bet you’ve got a friend who is gay. Possible black as well as gay. Because that automatically means you are neither homophobic or racist. You are a complete and utter clown.
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Post by Eggybread on Dec 5, 2019 8:39:13 GMT
Yes just Eggy in a roundabout way saying the jews control the media and finance but luckily as partick said he once had a jewish girlfriend so he is definitely not racist at all no sir...... And still no answer.
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Post by followyoudown on Dec 5, 2019 8:42:26 GMT
Yes just Eggy in a roundabout way saying the jews control the media and finance but luckily as partick said he once had a jewish girlfriend so he is definitely not racist at all no sir...... And still no answer. You are correct you dont have an answer do you and just follow it up with more lazy stereotypes and tropes.
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Post by Eggybread on Dec 5, 2019 8:49:01 GMT
And still no answer. You are correct you dont have an answer do you and just follow it up with more lazy stereotypes and tropes. I will if its gets this reaction every morning. And still no answer to why you deemed my post racist ,you really are grasping at straws now,Im sure you can do better sonny.
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Post by partickpotter on Dec 5, 2019 8:52:59 GMT
I bet you’ve got a friend who is gay. Possible black as well as gay. Because that automatically means you are neither homophobic or racist. You are a complete and utter clown.
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Post by followyoudown on Dec 5, 2019 8:58:09 GMT
You are correct you dont have an answer do you and just follow it up with more lazy stereotypes and tropes. I will if its gets this reaction every morning. And still no answer to why you deemed my post racist ,you really are grasping at straws now,Im sure you can do better sonny. I'll post racist tropes for shits and giggles is some take fella..... Several other people have explained it to you if you still dont understand there really is no point.
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Post by Eggybread on Dec 5, 2019 8:59:05 GMT
I will if its gets this reaction every morning. And still no answer to why you deemed my post racist ,you really are grasping at straws now,Im sure you can do better sonny. I'll post racist tropes for shits and giggles is some take fella..... Several other people have explained it to you if you still dont understand there really is no point. O no they havent.
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Post by followyoudown on Dec 5, 2019 9:01:23 GMT
I'll post racist tropes for shits and giggles is some take fella..... Several other people have explained it to you if you still dont understand there really is no point. O no they havent. They really have try reading back even prestwich has......
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Post by Deleted on Dec 5, 2019 9:34:18 GMT
Is there an institutional antisemitism problem in the Labour Party? Is there bollocks. And save your condescending crap about being "sincere", my view might not be the popular one but it's based on many conversations with my Jewish friends/neighbours/work colleagues on both sides of the argument, not by reading a few headlines. And it's always been a consistent one. I'll happily agree we're going round in circles though so I'll bid you goodnight........ I think the problem is you may not actually understand what being institutionally antisemitic means it does not mean everyone in the Labour party is a racist it does mean that jewish people are treated differently and get worse outcomes than non jewish people even Stevie Wonder can see this is the case under Labour. I understand fully what institutional racism is, and speculation about who or hasn't given evidence is just that until the report is published.....
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Post by Deleted on Dec 5, 2019 9:36:08 GMT
Is there an institutional antisemitism problem in the Labour Party? Is there bollocks. And save your condescending crap about being "sincere", my view might not be the popular one but it's based on many conversations with my Jewish friends/neighbours/work colleagues on both sides of the argument, not by reading a few headlines. And it's always been a consistent one. I'll happily agree we're going round in circles though so I'll bid you goodnight........ Is this the anti-semitic equivalent of "I can't be racist because I have a black friend"? No Roger. No it's not.
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Post by Eggybread on Dec 5, 2019 9:40:24 GMT
O no they havent. They really have try reading back even prestwich has...... Nope still not correct keeep digging. Asking questions is not an answer I have to go now anyway to run my multicultural, diverse and I hope non racist company.
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Post by followyoudown on Dec 5, 2019 9:56:00 GMT
I think the problem is you may not actually understand what being institutionally antisemitic means it does not mean everyone in the Labour party is a racist it does mean that jewish people are treated differently and get worse outcomes than non jewish people even Stevie Wonder can see this is the case under Labour. I understand fully what institutional racism is, and speculation about who or hasn't given evidence is just that until the report is published..... This is institutional racism This just racism
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Post by Deleted on Dec 5, 2019 10:00:59 GMT
Corbyn's at it again.
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Post by wizzardofdribble on Dec 5, 2019 10:22:00 GMT
He's probably abusing those kids in the photo.. Jewish children 😲
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Post by thevoid on Dec 5, 2019 10:54:10 GMT
They really have try reading back even prestwich has...... Nope still not correct keeep digging. Asking questions is not an answer I have to go now anyway to run my multicultural, diverse and I hope non racist company. Can I have fries with that? 😊🍟
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Post by Eggybread on Dec 5, 2019 11:07:19 GMT
Nope still not correct keeep digging. Asking questions is not an answer I have to go now anyway to run my multicultural, diverse and I hope non racist company. Can I have fries with that? 😊🍟 Chips you heathen.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 5, 2019 12:17:18 GMT
I understand fully what institutional racism is, and speculation about who or hasn't given evidence is just that until the report is published..... This is institutional racism This just racism That all sounds genuinely horrendous and where there's clear evidence of those things happening they should be dealt with accordingly. But just to be totally clear at the moment that's a list of unverified accusations. If I said to you "I was at a meeting and someone called me a 'Dirty Jew' and that 'Hitler got it right' you would want to know who said it, was their witnesses etc, and rightly so. We've already seen the Jewish Chronicle's claim that Louise Ellman's claims that she was hounded out of the party by the CLP called out as incorrect after a complaint to IPSO, so all I'm asking is that hard evidence is given and that the guilty parties are dealt with. It pays to scratch under the surface at times.....
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Post by Eggybread on Dec 5, 2019 12:36:39 GMT
Corbyn not watching the Queen’s speech “despicable” says 91% of UK who also don’t.
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Post by Eggybread on Dec 5, 2019 12:38:55 GMT
On another note. A half a million pound council flat!! Really? Whats your issue with Corbyn regarding this?
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Post by yeokel on Dec 5, 2019 13:14:32 GMT
I understand fully what institutional racism is, and speculation about who or hasn't given evidence is just that until the report is published..... This is institutional racism This just racism “ that the membership secretary in the South Tottenham constituency objected to 25 applications for membership from the ultra-orthodox Jewish community, and required home visits...” Perhaps he’s an Arsenal fan?
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Post by followyoudown on Dec 5, 2019 13:20:58 GMT
This is institutional racism This just racism That all sounds genuinely horrendous and where there's clear evidence of those things happening they should be dealt with accordingly. But just to be totally clear at the moment that's a list of unverified accusations. If I said to you "I was at a meeting and someone called me a 'Dirty Jew' and that 'Hitler got it right' you would want to know who said it, was their witnesses etc, and rightly so. We've already seen the Jewish Chronicle's claim that Louise Ellman's claims that she was hounded out of the party by the CLP called out as incorrect after a complaint to IPSO, so all I'm asking is that hard evidence is given and that the guilty parties are dealt with. It pays to scratch under the surface at times..... These are all sworn witness statements 70 labour staffers out of 200 in total have given evidence, Corbyns lies alone on dealing with it are enough to bring him down never mind his inaction, incompetence and complicity in not dealing with it.
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Post by rogerjonesisgod on Dec 5, 2019 13:50:07 GMT
Here's Charlie Falconer, or Labour's Lord Falconer to us minions. He's a Barrister by trade......
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Post by foster on Dec 5, 2019 13:55:55 GMT
Robin Hood 'a terrorist' haha IDK what goes through these peoples heads. He was clearly a 'freedom fighter'. If he would have existed.
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Post by followyoudown on Dec 5, 2019 14:15:57 GMT
Here's Charlie Falconer, or Labour's Lord Falconer to us minions. He's a Barrister by trade...... Clearly another Tory Roger Here is one of Labour largest donors sending a letter to party leadership telling them not to victimise whistleblowers all perfectly normal.....
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Post by salopstick on Dec 5, 2019 15:27:53 GMT
2020 Corbyn Neutral
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Post by Kilo on Dec 5, 2019 15:42:51 GMT
Corbyn not watching the Queen’s speech “despicable” says 91% of UK who also don’t. Don't know where the 91% figure comes from but I'd assume it's more about him feeling the need to lie about it rather than not actually watching it.
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Post by Eggybread on Dec 5, 2019 15:55:13 GMT
Corbyn not watching the Queen’s speech “despicable” says 91% of UK who also don’t. Don't know where the 91% figure comes from but I'd assume it's more about him feeling the need to lie about it rather than not actually watching it. Its all pathetic fella
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