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Post by lordb on Jul 2, 2019 11:21:35 GMT
No I haven’t I’ll give them a try It’s probably down to having read a book as a child/ early adult you form opinions on characters And somehow films never quite match it As I said earlier as a film outstanding as a adaptation not so good Yeah they're worth it, certainly still not as detailed as the books but they certainly add a lot more "Tolkien" to it. Fair enough opinions yes the extended versions make a big difference Lotr films were too short, Hobbit films too long
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Post by thevoid on Jul 2, 2019 13:25:04 GMT
The Hobbit would have worked better as a TV series that stuck to the plot of the book
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Post by yeokel on Jul 2, 2019 15:48:51 GMT
Re-watched the first one earlier. Do you think anything will come close to the scale of these movies again? Everything is moving towards digital effects and all that but no fantasy movie / series has felt as epic as LOTR for me. The amount of real extras alone is amazing, no wonder the credits are like 20-30 minutes long. I've never seen it. I've never read it. Shame on me. Read the Hobbit first, for some of the background stuff. (it's more of a kids book, but it will help get you started on the journey) And then read LOTR. And, when you've finished, sit back and think to yourself "I'll never read anything quite as extraordinary as that again". And you'll be right!
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Post by mickmillslovechild on Jul 3, 2019 10:35:59 GMT
Way too long due to Jackson's obsession with jizzing over cgi and Elijah Wood is just an irritating, complete 6 year old wet blanket throughout.
Loved the LoTR and The Hobbit books, but the films are just overlong, slow, boring, unnecessary ego massaging by Jackson
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Post by foster on Jul 3, 2019 11:27:24 GMT
I've never seen it. I've never read it. Shame on me. Read the Hobbit first, for some of the background stuff. (it's more of a kids book, but it will help get you started on the journey) And then read LOTR. And, when you've finished, sit back and think to yourself "I'll never read anything quite as extraordinary as that again". And you'll be right! The LOTR books are boring. Far too much time wasted on describing landscapes and not enough action. I think the first one devoted about 200 pages just explaining what the Shire looked like. Somehow I made it half way through 'Return of the King' (3rd book) then gave up. Much prefer the late David Gemmell books, if you're looking for heroic fantasy.
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Post by foster on Jul 3, 2019 11:28:43 GMT
Way too long due to Jackson's obsession with jizzing over cgi and Elijah Wood is just an irritating, complete 6 year old wet blanket throughout. Loved the LoTR and The Hobbit books, but the films are just overlong, slow, boring, unnecessary ego massaging by Jackson Not a big fan of the books but I agree that the film adaptations were underwhelming. Likewise, the Harry Potter films didn't do the books justice.
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Post by estrangedsonoffaye on Jul 3, 2019 23:26:34 GMT
Way too long due to Jackson's obsession with jizzing over cgi and Elijah Wood is just an irritating, complete 6 year old wet blanket throughout. Loved the LoTR and The Hobbit books, but the films are just overlong, slow, boring, unnecessary ego massaging by Jackson I think the CGI in LoTR actually supplements the superb costume and makeup perfectly. It’s only really used for Golumn up close, the rest of the time it just adds to the background. Which is the opposite of what The Hobbit did, and it greatly suffered for it IMO.
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Post by estrangedsonoffaye on Jul 3, 2019 23:33:00 GMT
Read the Hobbit first, for some of the background stuff. (it's more of a kids book, but it will help get you started on the journey) And then read LOTR. And, when you've finished, sit back and think to yourself "I'll never read anything quite as extraordinary as that again". And you'll be right! The LOTR books are boring. Far too much time wasted on describing landscapes and not enough action. I think the first one devoted about 200 pages just explaining what the Shire looked like. Somehow I made it half way through 'Return of the King' (3rd book) then gave up. Much prefer the late David Gemmell books, if you're looking for heroic fantasy. Gemmell books are very good, certainly more elements of grey in his characters too.
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