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Post by Northy on Apr 6, 2022 6:46:01 GMT
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Post by mrcoke on Apr 7, 2022 7:52:18 GMT
Good post (Commented to bring your post back to the top.)
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Post by mrcoke on Apr 8, 2022 16:06:05 GMT
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Post by foster on Apr 10, 2022 7:50:18 GMT
Its quite pathetic the depths you'll go to to try and criticise EU countries. There's nothing in the articles about the environment, and surely having crops and plants in those fields is better for the environment than not having any. So 1 night of burning some oil lamps vs a season of flourishing crop growth. Do you go around telling your neighbours to not have coal BBQs because of the environmental impact.
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Post by mrcoke on Apr 10, 2022 10:19:50 GMT
Its quite pathetic the depths you'll go to to try and criticise EU countries. There's nothing in the articles about the environment, and surely having crops and plants in those fields is better for the environment than not having any. So 1 night of burning some oil lamps vs a season of flourishing crop growth. Do you go around telling your neighbours to not have coal BBQs because of the environmental impact. You obviously don't like my last post and trivialise what the French are doing, so here is something a bit more damaging for you to chew on: www.nature.com/articles/d41586-020-02991-1
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Post by foster on Apr 10, 2022 10:40:45 GMT
Its quite pathetic the depths you'll go to to try and criticise EU countries. There's nothing in the articles about the environment, and surely having crops and plants in those fields is better for the environment than not having any. So 1 night of burning some oil lamps vs a season of flourishing crop growth. Do you go around telling your neighbours to not have coal BBQs because of the environmental impact. You obviously don't like my last post and trivialise what the French are doing, so here is something a bit more damaging for you to chew on: www.nature.com/articles/d41586-020-02991-1I just think you're a sad bloke who desperately tries to portray any EU country in a negative light for no real reason. You barely ever, if at all, criticise the likes of India or China. Indeed you've said we should do more business with those polluters. It's just hypocritical. Your last attempt was desperate to say the least.
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Post by mrcoke on Apr 10, 2022 11:33:40 GMT
I just think you're a sad bloke who desperately tries to portray any EU country in a negative light for no real reason. You barely ever, if at all, criticise the likes of India or China. Indeed you've said we should do more business with those polluters. It's just hypocritical. Your last attempt was desperate to say the least. I have never said we should import more from China, although China does have the most modern technically advanced manufacturing plant in the world. It releases the most pollution because it is the workshop of the world as Britain was in the 19th century. The west has largely "exported" its pollution to China, which is Germany's #1 supplier. I have said we need to sell more to China. I have promoted trade with India, not so much to import, but more to export. India will be the largest population in the world by the end of decade and have the largest potential customer base for British products which are generally services, IT, sophisticated high added value products and luxury goods. India's wealthy/middle class will soon be larger than the whole of Europe. I hope Johnson's visit there will accelerate our country coming closer together with India, a country and people I grew to like very much when there. The UK can help them greatly to our mutual benefit by technically assisting them to develop their commerce without massively increasing pollution, which is also high because of the size of the country, but relatively low per head of population. I do not portray any EU country in a negative light. I hugely admire the Scandinavian countries who the UK should seek to emulate on environmental and social grounds. As for those EU countries I do criticise it is always for good reason, but I don't confuse them with the EU.
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Post by mrcoke on Apr 12, 2022 9:09:06 GMT
One of the problems with renewables is they are not always available when you need them. The sun doesn't always shine, and the wind doesn't always blow. Last summer when there was a large anticyclone sitting over the UK, although we had record generating capacity which is growing every year, we generated a lot less due to no wind and even had to resort to starting up coal fired power stations to meet demand. Last year we commissioned a new power cable from Norway to tap into their excess hydroelectricity when available. www.independent.co.uk/climate-change/news/norway-uk-hydropower-under-sea-cables-b1930521.htmlThere is a huge investment in wind power ongoing and the government has announced that investment in land based wind power easier, the problem being anyone can object to planning permission at the moment and lots of people don't want to look out of their window at a windmill. Consequently there are times when there is a lot of wind we could generate more electicity than we need, so work is ongoing to improve battery technology to store it. Today I picked up on a plan to connect the UK with Germany so each country can send excess power to the other if available: www.cnbc.com/2022/04/12/huge-undersea-cables-to-give-uk-germany-first-ever-energy-link.html
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Post by Northy on Apr 12, 2022 9:13:59 GMT
Its quite pathetic the depths you'll go to to try and criticise EU countries. There's nothing in the articles about the environment, and surely having crops and plants in those fields is better for the environment than not having any. So 1 night of burning some oil lamps vs a season of flourishing crop growth. Do you go around telling your neighbours to not have coal BBQs because of the environmental impact. You obviously don't like my last post and trivialise what the French are doing, so here is something a bit more damaging for you to chew on: www.nature.com/articles/d41586-020-02991-1A bit of green washing
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Post by Northy on Apr 12, 2022 9:19:21 GMT
One of the problems with renewables is they are not always available when you need them. The sun doesn't always shine, and the wind doesn't always blow. Last summer when there was a large anticyclone sitting over the UK, although we had record generating capacity which is growing every year, we generated a lot less due to no wind and even had to resort to starting up coal fired power stations to meet demand. Last year we commissioned a new power cable from Norway to tap into their excess hydroelectricity when available. www.independent.co.uk/climate-change/news/norway-uk-hydropower-under-sea-cables-b1930521.htmlThere is a huge investment in wind power ongoing and the government has announced that investment in land based wind power easier, the problem being anyone can object to planning permission at the moment and lots of people don't want to look out of their window at a windmill. Consequently there are times when there is a lot of wind we could generate more electicity than we need, so work is ongoing to improve battery technology to store it. Today I picked up on a plan to connect the UK with Germany so each country can send excess power to the other if available: www.cnbc.com/2022/04/12/huge-undersea-cables-to-give-uk-germany-first-ever-energy-link.htmlWe already have the connector to France but unfortunately that had a serious fire and is out for a while, only problem with Germany is it's use of coal still, the Norway one will be good, I was there 10 years ago with work and the electricity was 99% renewable then, mostly hydro. We need to look at tidal and hydro where we can as an alternative when there's no wind or sunshine.
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Post by Northy on Apr 20, 2022 12:21:35 GMT
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Post by foghornsgleghorn on May 1, 2022 11:42:41 GMT
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Post by mrcoke on May 1, 2022 13:33:51 GMT
The last couple of years I worked was in the same office block as Chris McDonald at Teesside, when I headed the Tata coke performance improvement team covering Europe, India, and Far East. If Chris says there is no demand for the coal due to sulphur content and low usage then there is no demand. Sulphur is the enemy of the steel maker, not just because of environmental issues, it has to be removed in the steel making process or it "weakens" the steel . That is an expensive operation so steel makers want minimal sulphur content in the iron ore, metallurgical coal, and lime that it uses in coke ovens, sinter plants, blast furnaces and steel converters. Steel making is like cookery, you use lots of ingredients to get the "right mix" free from excessive pollutants like sulphur, zinc, etc.
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Post by Northy on May 1, 2022 17:43:04 GMT
I was in Paris last week, far more electric, hybrid cars there and saw quite a few blue hydrogen taxis/cars and a hydrogen charging station just off a main road.
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Post by Northy on May 13, 2022 16:05:14 GMT
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Post by Northy on May 17, 2022 11:34:29 GMT
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Post by foster on May 17, 2022 11:55:19 GMT
Said to my 14 year old the other day 'How come you don't join some kind of eco-group at your school? It would be good.'. His reply 'What's the point, I already do more than all my friends and it's too late to do anything about the environment now.'. Sad state of affairs, but I think he has a point. There's nowhere near enough urgency.
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Post by Northy on May 17, 2022 12:49:07 GMT
Said to my 14 year old the other day 'How come you don't join some kind of eco-group at your school? It would be good.'. His reply 'What's the point, I already do more than all my friends and it's too late to do anything about the environment now.'. Sad state of affairs, but I think he has a point. There's nowhere near enough urgency. yep, India will keep pumping more coal into the power stations to keep the AC on to combat the high temperatures Lots of people think recycling (not reducing) then they are doing their bit, and they'll keep on watching absolute garbage on TV. I've even seen the FA PL managers and Gareth Southgate sat at press conferences drinking from plastic bottles (sponsors) what's wrong with a jug of fookin water from the tap ?
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Post by Rednwhitenblue on May 17, 2022 20:07:43 GMT
Said to my 14 year old the other day 'How come you don't join some kind of eco-group at your school? It would be good.'. His reply 'What's the point, I already do more than all my friends and it's too late to do anything about the environment now.'. Sad state of affairs, but I think he has a point. There's nowhere near enough urgency. I suspect that's right, no-one is really prepared to see their lifestyles change because no-one really believes that anything bad is going to happen, and by the time they do get around to realising it, it'll be too late. The film Don't Look Up pretty much got it right, albeit from a more immediate source. Denial, denial, denial....oh, shit... The other mistake people make is the idea of human exceptionalism - that somehow we're different from every other animal and therefore special in some way and we'll be ok just for that reason alone. It's a big mistake to make and one that will probably lead to our extinction. We have about eight years to drastically reduce carbon emissions to keep warming to 1.5 degrees. It's just not going to happen. Ultimately, I can't see billions of people migrating around the planet in search of somewhere habitable to live ending well.
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Post by mtrstudent on May 17, 2022 22:42:48 GMT
The film Don't Look Up pretty much got it right, albeit from a more immediate source. Denial, denial, denial....oh, shit... Holy crap that hit close to home. At least global warming is more of a spectrum of shit rather than getting hit by a massive rock, which is a "yes/no" to extinction. And we've already avoided the worst edge of the spectrum IMO.
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Post by mrcoke on May 24, 2022 7:37:09 GMT
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Post by Rednwhitenblue on May 24, 2022 12:30:06 GMT
Good news. It's a shame our recent energy strategy poured such cold water on onshore wind turbines. I suppose we'll have some unspoilt views to look at while the Earth boils...
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Post by mrcoke on Jun 7, 2022 9:43:25 GMT
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Post by Northy on Jun 7, 2022 15:01:21 GMT
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Post by mrcoke on Jun 27, 2022 20:11:38 GMT
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Post by Northy on Jun 30, 2022 12:14:56 GMT
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Post by Northy on Jun 30, 2022 12:21:37 GMT
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Post by cvillestokie on Jun 30, 2022 16:01:27 GMT
In the meantime, the US have decided that it’s easier to allow states like West Virginia to stay in the past, killing themselves slowly in mines, instead of investing in them and creating opportunities for them to be a leader in the green sector.
Yay, climate change denial.
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Post by Northy on Jul 1, 2022 12:19:43 GMT
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Post by Northy on Jul 4, 2022 15:12:05 GMT
Rolls Royce small modular nuclear reactors moving forward, factory sites to be announced soon.
80-90% of materials from the UK, built in factories and shipped to site minimising site construction works, could be a game changer to some smaller and remote areas, as well as bridging the gap here until full carbon zero is reached.
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