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Post by Gary Hackett on Jul 7, 2019 20:59:52 GMT
Whatever you think about him he's got to be given the full season. If there's no improvement then he'd have to go next summer.
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Post by Gods on Jul 7, 2019 21:01:28 GMT
15 games? You massive hero. It'll be at least 10 games more than a lot of folk gave his predecessor.And he had half of last season as well to impress dont forget. That's the part I don't get, the same applied to his predecessors predecessor as well Mr. Lambert. If pressed the explanation is that Rowett misappropriated last summers budget, which we did, but Lambert didn't even have the chance to do that. Having said all of that I wouldn't have sacked Hughes when we did, I still fancy he might have found the 4 extra points we needed to stay in the Prem. HoHum...
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Post by thicknthin on Jul 7, 2019 21:03:59 GMT
Nearly, but that honour goes to Maclean for me. Stiff competition though Maclean....is he a new signing? Run that laughing face thing by us again When he learns to cross i’ll learn to spell his name right, until then, bore off!
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Post by cdlstoke on Jul 7, 2019 21:06:12 GMT
It'll be at least 10 games more than a lot of folk gave his predecessor.And he had half of last season as well to impress dont forget. That's the part I don't get, the same applied to his predecessors predecessor as well Mr. Lambert. If pressed the explanation is that Rowett misappropriated last summers budget, which we did, but Lambert didn't even have the chance to do that. Having said all of that I wouldn't have sacked Hughes when we did, I still fancy he might have found the 4 extra points we needed to stay in the Prem. HoHum... Since Hughes it’s been 3 poor appointments in my eyes. With the players we had, the managers were very underwhelming and unfortunately in today’s football players Have a lot of power. Hughes needed replacing with a bigger name that lambert or might as well kept him for the remaining games. He might have scraped through. We will never know unfortunately.
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Post by stokierich on Jul 7, 2019 21:06:46 GMT
Spot on. Plus both them players are more then likely be playing second fiddle in the Premier league. People can dress it up as they like but not getting any of them in is massive kick in the face of Nathan Jones, who's been awful appointment so far.
Oh shut up you tart. His record so far speaks for its self, it's shit!. Happy clap a much as you like but I've seen nothing since his appointment that makes me think otherwise. If he carries on with his awful record next season, things will turn nasty pretty quick.
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Post by Gob Bluth on Jul 7, 2019 21:13:25 GMT
The concern is Ward isn’t the type of player we need, obviously not saying Pieters is. No but as back up he's probably a lot cheaper than Pieters. Definitely, my thought would be that if it's just as a backup or rotation can't we use Clucas and save the wages. I don't think Clucas is a first team player anymore with our recent signings so I don't having him as a backup left back would be a problem. Assuming though, if you think like me we're not going to achieve anything this season. If you think we're going to push promotion then Ward could be deemed as a functional signing.
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Post by Gods on Jul 7, 2019 21:16:33 GMT
That's the part I don't get, the same applied to his predecessors predecessor as well Mr. Lambert. If pressed the explanation is that Rowett misappropriated last summers budget, which we did, but Lambert didn't even have the chance to do that. Having said all of that I wouldn't have sacked Hughes when we did, I still fancy he might have found the 4 extra points we needed to stay in the Prem. HoHum... Since Hughes it’s been 3 poor appointments in my eyes. With the players we had, the managers were very underwhelming and unfortunately in today’s football players Have a lot of power. Hughes needed replacing with a bigger name that lambert or might as well kept him for the remaining games. He might have scraped through. We will never know unfortunately. I do agree with an earlier comment you made that there is something about Nathan and his post match comments to make you think he may be somewhat unhinged! Is that a show-stopper though? I'm not sure it is, plenty of good managers in the past have been slightly nuts. In the end I think people have just taken to Nathan in a 'one of us' kind of a way but they thought Rowett was a bit of a tosser hence he is cut more slack. Also we simply have to stay the course with this one, we've already hired Hughes, Lambert, Rowett and Jones in the last 18 months, a 5th manager in a year and a half and we'd be a laughing stock, if we're not already!
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Post by GeneralFaye on Jul 7, 2019 21:17:37 GMT
Great, "things will get nasty" for yet another manager.. oh wait, get some patience, get behind the team and fucking give a guy who has an actual plan a chance. I'm sick of the amount of people who cannot wait for us to start poorly.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 7, 2019 21:20:15 GMT
Whatever you think about him he's got to be given the full season. If there's no improvement then he'd have to go next summer. Not a chance he'll be given the full season if he's underperforming like he did last season. Not a chance.
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Post by sportsman on Jul 7, 2019 21:23:53 GMT
Great, "things will get nasty" for yet another manager.. oh wait, get some patience, get behind the team and fucking give a guy who has an actual plan a chance. I'm sick of the amount of people who cannot wait for us to start poorly. The whole attitude of some on here is pathetic. The start of a new season and we have wazzack already counting down his days. The team from the off need the full backing of the bear pit. The only horrible atmosphere should be saved for every visiting team like it used to be.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 7, 2019 21:27:48 GMT
It'll be at least 10 games more than a lot of folk gave his predecessor.And he had half of last season as well to impress dont forget. That's the part I don't get, the same applied to his predecessors predecessor as well Mr. Lambert. If pressed the explanation is that Rowett misappropriated last summers budget, which we did, but Lambert didn't even have the chance to do that. Having said all of that I wouldn't have sacked Hughes when we did, I still fancy he might have found the 4 extra points we needed to stay in the Prem. HoHum... What fucks me off is we should have sacked him sooner or not done it at all, we did it at the one time I didn't want us to.
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Post by GeneralFaye on Jul 7, 2019 21:29:25 GMT
Great, "things will get nasty" for yet another manager.. oh wait, get some patience, get behind the team and fucking give a guy who has an actual plan a chance. I'm sick of the amount of people who cannot wait for us to start poorly. The whole attitude of some on here is pathetic. The start of a new season and we have wazzack already counting down his days. The team from the off need the full backing of the bear pit. The only horrible atmosphere should be saved for every visiting team like it used to be. It's counterproductive beyond belief.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 7, 2019 21:32:15 GMT
Great, "things will get nasty" for yet another manager.. oh wait, get some patience, get behind the team and fucking give a guy who has an actual plan a chance. I'm sick of the amount of people who cannot wait for us to start poorly. The whole attitude of some on here is pathetic. The start of a new season and we have wazzack already counting down his days. The team from the off need the full backing of the bear pit. The only horrible atmosphere should be saved for every visiting team like it used to be. You missed off "for a brief spell in our premier league tenure" at the end of your last sentence.
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Post by Pugsley on Jul 7, 2019 21:33:00 GMT
Spot on. Plus both them players are more then likely be playing second fiddle in the Premier league.
People can dress it up as they like but not getting any of them in is massive kick in the face of Nathan Jones, who's been awful appointment so far.
I said Tom Ince as an example of a player choosing to play for a championship side rather than a PL side rather than agree with your comments. He signed for Stoke for the money. I don't think it's a massive kick in the face for Jones at all, players make their own choices and most back themselves to achieve. Ince is an absolute fucking pansy who should be no where near our club. Jones will do well for Stoke City if given the correct support from above.
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Post by boskampsflaps on Jul 7, 2019 21:40:22 GMT
No but as back up he's probably a lot cheaper than Pieters. Definitely, my thought would be that if it's just as a backup or rotation can't we use Clucas and save the wages. I don't think Clucas is a first team player anymore with our recent signings so I don't having him as a backup left back would be a problem. Assuming though, if you think like me we're not going to achieve anything this season. If you think we're going to push promotion then Ward could be deemed as a functional signing. If the middle two are injured or need resting I would have thought Clucas would be next in line, it would be a bit of a risk to have him as first cover for two positions, tbh I'm not sure what to think so far for this season, the new signings seems solid but I just keep going back to our promotion to the Prem, who'd have thought we'd have done so well with Sidibe and Creswell as mainstays in the team anyway thats not the point of your post. I think Ward makes sense tbh we aren't having to risk signing someone on a long contract and being stuck with someone we don't want and he's unlikely to complain if he's not playing all the time, I think its a pretty good signing tbh.
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Post by kelw on Jul 7, 2019 21:40:53 GMT
Maclean....is he a new signing? Run that laughing face thing by us again When he learns to cross i’ll learn to spell his name right, until then, bore off! What about Vowkes?
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Post by Gob Bluth on Jul 7, 2019 21:54:17 GMT
Definitely, my thought would be that if it's just as a backup or rotation can't we use Clucas and save the wages. I don't think Clucas is a first team player anymore with our recent signings so I don't having him as a backup left back would be a problem. Assuming though, if you think like me we're not going to achieve anything this season. If you think we're going to push promotion then Ward could be deemed as a functional signing. If the middle two are injured or need resting I would have thought Clucas would be next in line, it would be a bit of a risk to have him as first cover for two positions, tbh I'm not sure what to think so far for this season, the new signings seems solid but I just keep going back to our promotion to the Prem, who'd have thought we'd have done so well with Sidibe and Creswell as mainstays in the team anyway thats not the point of your post. I think Ward makes sense tbh we aren't having to risk signing someone on a long contract and being stuck with someone we don't want and he's unlikely to complain if he's not playing all the time, I think its a pretty good signing tbh. I agree that I didn't feel like 2007/08 season was a promotion push however the season before we were in touching distance of the play-offs whereas last season was a slog. I think part of my frustration with this is the Tymon situation, we have a player who's of the right mould and we're signing Ward. I guess Tymon would be on less wages and should be given more of an opportunity. Maybe my Tymon thoughts make sense when I'm writing this season off.
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Post by stokierich on Jul 7, 2019 22:02:03 GMT
Spot on. Plus both them players are more then likely be playing second fiddle in the Premier league. People can dress it up as they like but not getting any of them in is massive kick in the face of Nathan Jones, who's been awful appointment so far.
I said Tom Ince as an example of a player choosing to play for a championship side rather than a PL side rather than agree with your comments. He signed for Stoke for the money. I don't think it's a massive kick in the face for Jones at all, players make their own choices and most back themselves to achieve. Ince is an absolute fucking pansy who should be no where near our club. Jones will do well for Stoke City if given the correct support from above. Ince was regular for Huddersfield the season before in the Premier league, both the players we've missed out on our likely to just be back up and play the odd game. Jones would of had both them players at the top of his list and the fact he wasn't able to convince them to join him and be part of his project as they were at Luton will be massive kick in his face. All the signings so far has the NJ stamp written all over them so the board look like they've given him free range and par Powell the rest seem less convincing. Will wait and see but there's nothing he's done that's given me hope that he's the man to get us promoted. Time will tell.
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Post by Gods on Jul 7, 2019 22:46:39 GMT
That's the part I don't get, the same applied to his predecessors predecessor as well Mr. Lambert. If pressed the explanation is that Rowett misappropriated last summers budget, which we did, but Lambert didn't even have the chance to do that. Having said all of that I wouldn't have sacked Hughes when we did, I still fancy he might have found the 4 extra points we needed to stay in the Prem. HoHum... What fucks me off is we should have sacked him sooner or not done it at all, we did it at the one time I didn't want us to. Exactly.
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Post by JimmyisGod on Jul 8, 2019 7:07:36 GMT
Erik is rumoured to be signing for Burnley
They like our old players
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Post by Gods on Jul 8, 2019 7:20:51 GMT
Erik is rumoured to be signing for Burnley They like our old players Erik would be a good signing for an unfancied Prem team. He's proved he can do a job over 200 games in the top flight for us and he's tough as old boot leather.
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Post by lordb on Jul 8, 2019 7:59:15 GMT
Whatever you think about him he's got to be given the full season. If there's no improvement then he'd have to go next summer. What level of improvement keeps him in the job? Too ten? Play offs?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 8, 2019 8:04:32 GMT
Pugsley. I agree about Ince. An f'ing pansy indeed. What about McClean? Another who should be no where near our club IMHO! A complete non footballer. I'd get shut of both of em!
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Post by nott1 on Jul 8, 2019 8:05:33 GMT
Erik is rumoured to be signing for Burnley They like our old players Erik would be a good signing for an unfancied Prem team. He's proved he can do a job over 200 games in the top flight for us and he's tough as old boot leather. Too big a personality for Jones to handle?
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Post by Gary Hackett on Jul 8, 2019 8:09:54 GMT
Whatever you think about him he's got to be given the full season. If there's no improvement then he'd have to go next summer. What level of improvement keeps him in the job? Too ten? Play offs? I think overall improvement. Better football, better results, better substitutions, a proper game plan and a play off place.
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Post by cdlstoke on Jul 8, 2019 8:34:05 GMT
What level of improvement keeps him in the job? Too ten? Play offs? I think overall improvement. Better football, better results, better substitutions, a proper game plan and a play off place. Just out of interest. What if we were in the bottom 6 after 15-20 games? Do you think he should still see the season out and hope?
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Post by FullerMagic on Jul 8, 2019 8:34:14 GMT
Announcement imminent.
Spinksy says we were seeking a 7-figure fee, so presume it'll be around £1m?
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Post by FullerMagic on Jul 8, 2019 8:42:25 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jul 8, 2019 9:00:57 GMT
All the best Erik.
A good servant, and he owes us nowt for the £3m that we paid for him.....
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Post by owdestokie2 on Jul 8, 2019 9:01:08 GMT
It would be ironic to see Bards and Erik line up on opposite flanks in the same EPL team.
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