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Post by GreaterGlasgowstokie on Jul 8, 2019 18:33:46 GMT
No, we shouldn't have paid what we did for mcclean, that was a ridiculous fee McClean isn't relevant to clearing out Premier League fringe players on big wages. Maybe one day will be a thread where he isn't brought into it. If we'd released Pieters by mutual consent I would have half understood what the club was doing as not in our plans. The McClean thing was tiresome last year. jujjust to clarify in case you think this is an anti-irish Catholic ira sympathiser type thing, my family is irish Catholic living in glasgow, all Celtic fans. AND, I think James Mcclean is shit, utter utter garbage. Shitter than shit. There must be some other word to describe his shitness if anyone can help.
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Post by unknown182 on Jul 8, 2019 18:34:58 GMT
So SL&P have posted that we're not looking for a left back as we've got BMI and Ward to play there. How can this possibly be true knowing the system that Jones wants to play?. Left back should have been priority from day one this summer.
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Post by LankyPotter on Jul 8, 2019 18:35:04 GMT
Not if your Burnley they’ve had two decent full backs off us for bobbins Needed to be done - couldn’t of cared less if he had gone on a free
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jul 8, 2019 18:37:22 GMT
Not if your Burnley they’ve had two decent full backs off us for bobbins Needed to be done - couldn’t of cared less if he had gone on a free Why couldn’t you? Ever likely they get away with murder. He’s a saleable asset. He’s a good player that wanted by a PL (ie rich) club. Why are Stoke fans so happy with such shit?
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Post by LankyPotter on Jul 8, 2019 18:41:07 GMT
Needed to be done - couldn’t of cared less if he had gone on a free Why couldn’t you? Ever likely they get away with murder. He’s a saleable asset. He’s a good player that wanted by a PL (ie rich) club. Why are Stoke fans so happy with such shit? I wouldn’t expect more than 3 million for him at the most - he won’t play and we need people like him off the wages - sound business in this instance.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jul 8, 2019 18:43:12 GMT
He really wasn’t. Johnson’s legs had gone by then. Bardsley was always a goal waiting to happen, how many times did he switch off and his man nip in to score? No one saw Johnson's rapid decline coming and while Hughes can rightly be slated for many things the Bardsley sale was only a clanger with the benefit of hindsight. Proof of it not being hindsight..... We don't need a replacement for bardsley. He hardly ever played and when he did he was either crap, injured or got sent off. He's no loss at all. He's better than Glen Johnson. No matter how many times you post it, that doesn't make him good. Edit - Cameron is probably a better right back than them both and we know your views on him I think he's played well for us on the whole. Much better than Johnson in their times here. We've kept the one who can't run. Which is just ace. Rubbish. He was excellent in his first season with us and when stories of potential interest from west ham emerged he was easily one of our better players. As recently as October 2016, he got an England recall and was mysteriously being linked with Barcelona. Meanwhile bardsley couldn't get into a shit stoke side and an even shitter Scotland squad. He took months to get going in his first season and really wasn't that good for a good part of it. He was defensively ok for the large part but the bit he was meant to be good at (attacking) he couldn't do. His passing in particular is atrocious and that's really surprised me. He was garbage all last season. The England call up was a surprise to everyone. Neither are what we should aspire to and we deserve better than both but Johnson should not be at this club over Bardsley at this moment in time. oatcakefanzine.proboards.com/thread/270112/phil-bardsley-confirmed-burnley
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Post by kjpt140v on Jul 8, 2019 19:20:18 GMT
All the best to him, he served us well and always appreciated the fans.
It leaves us with very poor cover at LB.
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Post by boskampsflaps on Jul 8, 2019 19:25:09 GMT
Why would it be cynical to criticise Jones or Nath as you call him if he starts the season with a 34 year old playing LWB or god forbid McClean or Clucas as first choice in a crucial position. You you be happy if no other LB was signed? I agree that is what I am saying they have to get someone in or they will be deservedly crucified? Would you crucify them if we're top at Christmas or just claim it as luck?
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Post by boskampsflaps on Jul 8, 2019 19:25:56 GMT
It wasn't though was it, it was a group of players already here, already failing. Are you saying that Jones did not pick the team in his first four months here? No, did he sign them?
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Post by boskampsflaps on Jul 8, 2019 19:26:19 GMT
So SL&P have posted that we're not looking for a left back as we've got BMI and Ward to play there. How can this possibly be true knowing the system that Jones wants to play?. Left back should have been priority from day one this summer. SL&P know fuck all.
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Post by neddy on Jul 8, 2019 19:36:50 GMT
I agree that is what I am saying they have to get someone in or they will be deservedly crucified? Would you crucify them if we're top at Christmas or just claim it as luck? No I would never have a go but very very many would mate....
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Post by FullerMagic on Jul 8, 2019 19:46:32 GMT
Potentially another 500k in add-ons. Better than nothing... www.skysports.com/transfer-centreWHAT BURNLEY PAID FOR PIETERS Sky Sports News understands Burnley paid an initial £1m to Stoke for defender Erik Pieters, rising to a possible £1.5m with add-ons.
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Post by Pretty Little Boother on Jul 8, 2019 19:46:54 GMT
If we're seriously heading into the new season with McClean, Ward and BMI for the LWB as SLP suggest, I'll have no other option than to shove a toothpick up my urethra.
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Post by wearepremierleague on Jul 8, 2019 19:52:13 GMT
May aswell write the diamond off now if we’re going into it with Ward and Indi as our full backs.
Absolutely praying that we aren’t that’s stupid
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Post by spiderpuss on Jul 8, 2019 22:02:43 GMT
May aswell write the diamond off now if we’re going into it with Ward and Indi as our full backs. Absolutely praying that we aren’t that’s stupid
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Post by crapslinger on Jul 8, 2019 22:16:51 GMT
Potentially another 500k in add-ons. Better than nothing... www.skysports.com/transfer-centreWHAT BURNLEY PAID FOR PIETERS Sky Sports News understands Burnley paid an initial £1m to Stoke for defender Erik Pieters, rising to a possible £1.5m with add-ons. What a fcuking cop out again, the process
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Post by crapslinger on Jul 8, 2019 22:17:58 GMT
So SL&P have posted that we're not looking for a left back as we've got BMI and Ward to play there. How can this possibly be true knowing the system that Jones wants to play?. Left back should have been priority from day one this summer. SL&P know fuck all. And you know different ?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 8, 2019 23:02:48 GMT
Are you saying that Jones did not pick the team in his first four months here? No, did he sign them? What are you saying exactly? Oh never mind. You were just looking for trouble as always...
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Post by Deleted on Jul 8, 2019 23:04:00 GMT
May aswell write the diamond off now if we’re going into it with Ward and Indi as our full backs. Absolutely praying that we aren’t that’s stupid If we write the diamond off, what do we then need Jones for?
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Post by boskampsflaps on Jul 8, 2019 23:26:37 GMT
I don't claim to, just that their "info" tends to come after its been knocking about for a few days so I probably know about as much as they do, apart from when they've spotted someone through the gates of course, was it Ireland they mistook for Shelvey once?
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Post by boskampsflaps on Jul 8, 2019 23:28:53 GMT
What are you saying exactly? Oh never mind. You were just looking for trouble as always... Am I or am I just disagreeing with something you've said, to clarify I'm saying it wasn't a Jones team rather just a group of players he had to put out until he could get a team together that he could actually call his own.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 8, 2019 23:32:21 GMT
Potentially another 500k in add-ons. Better than nothing... www.skysports.com/transfer-centreWHAT BURNLEY PAID FOR PIETERS Sky Sports News understands Burnley paid an initial £1m to Stoke for defender Erik Pieters, rising to a possible £1.5m with add-ons. How are we consistently so bad at this? It's every fucking time and half the buggers we literally can't sell. Swanning off to train with Koln, Going off on trial with Birmingham, In a climate where Mings went for 20M - some on here are happy to see Erik, a proven Prem defender go for 1.5M?? It's fucking madness. We need new people to come in and run this sort of thing because the ones responsible for the past 10 or so years have proven beyond doubt they are about as bad as it gets.
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Post by kelw on Jul 8, 2019 23:39:12 GMT
All the best to him, he served us well and always appreciated the fans. It leaves us with very poor cover at LB. Plenty of time yet and means another hefty salary cleared and a few quid in on top of that.
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Post by boskampsflaps on Jul 8, 2019 23:49:57 GMT
Potentially another 500k in add-ons. Better than nothing... www.skysports.com/transfer-centreWHAT BURNLEY PAID FOR PIETERS Sky Sports News understands Burnley paid an initial £1m to Stoke for defender Erik Pieters, rising to a possible £1.5m with add-ons. How are we consistently so bad at this? It's every fucking time and half the buggers we literally can't sell. Swanning off to train with Koln, Going off on trial with Birmingham, In a climate where Mings went for 20M - some on here are happy to see Erik, a proven Prem defender go for 1.5M?? It's fucking madness. We need new people to come in and run this sort of thing because the ones responsible for the past 10 or so years have proven beyond doubt they are about as bad as it gets. We're desperate to get people off the wage bill, and if the Butland situation is to believed and he ends up staying then it makes it even more important to get as many as the bomb squad out the door as possible and that probably means we have to give a little to get rid, saying that I don't think the fee is all that low anyway before it was revealed 1 to 2mil seemed about right. You can't compare it with Mings. You've lost me with the Brum trial tbh?
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Post by boskampsflaps on Jul 8, 2019 23:50:50 GMT
All the best to him, he served us well and always appreciated the fans. It leaves us with very poor cover at LB. He was never going to be cover anyway.
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Post by uskstokie on Jul 8, 2019 23:52:58 GMT
All the best to Pieters. Been a decent player for us. ☺️ Now with the money gained from this sale and the sell on clause of Arni (the wanker) we might be able to invest in a new LB
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Post by scfc75 on Jul 9, 2019 0:52:00 GMT
If we're seriously heading into the new season with McClean, Ward and BMI for the LWB as SLP suggest, I'll have no other option than to shove a toothpick up my urethra. Isn’t it down...?
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Jul 9, 2019 2:16:01 GMT
If we're seriously heading into the new season with McClean, Ward and BMI for the LWB as SLP suggest, I'll have no other option than to shove a toothpick up my urethra. Isn’t it down...? Either way it won’t hurt as much as watching Bruno at left wing back every week .
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Post by stokesaint1 on Jul 9, 2019 2:59:03 GMT
Really pees me off that our players are valued and sold so lowly and yet when we buy, we end up paying top dollar. £1 million for a player aged 30 with several international caps and vast premier league experience going to a premier league club is pathetic. I know Jones wanted him gone but FFS man up Stoke. Other clubs must absolutely love dealing with Stoke. Just watch Butland going next for peanuts and the board coming out with " we had no option, he wanted to leave".
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Post by kelw on Jul 9, 2019 4:25:38 GMT
Really pees me off that our players are valued and sold so lowly and yet when we buy, we end up paying top dollar. £1 million for a player aged 30 with several international caps and vast premier league experience going to a premier league club is pathetic. I know Jones wanted him gone but FFS man up Stoke. Other clubs must absolutely love dealing with Stoke. Just watch Butland going next for peanuts and the board coming out with " we had no option, he wanted to leave". I think made up scenarios and quotes are hardly a good example. £4 million for Walters who was finished and a player with far more international experience probably a better example.
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