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Post by FullerMagic on Jul 7, 2019 7:00:33 GMT
It is hard to believe there's no market to buy him permanently, even at a sizeable loss. He's a good player and should be theoretically one of our biggest assets. But the market seems to be dictating otherwise - as with Butland.
If we have to settle for another season loan with no obligation to buy, it'll be very disappointing.
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Post by DentySCFC on Jul 7, 2019 7:06:49 GMT
It is hard to believe there's no market to buy him permanently, even at a sizeable loss. He's a good player and should be theoretically one of our biggest assets. But the market seems to be dictating otherwise - as with Butland. If we have to settle for another season loan with no obligation to buy, it'll be very disappointing. There has to be a La Liga or a Prem club that’ll take him on loan surely? He’d be in more in the shop window there than playing in the Turkish league surely?
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Post by FullerMagic on Jul 8, 2019 18:42:27 GMT
Badou Ndiaye's agent D'Avila: Ndiaye is close to Fenerbahce
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Post by Absolution on Jul 8, 2019 18:46:31 GMT
Badou Ndiaye's agent D'Avila: Ndiaye is close to Fenerbahce I'll be close to Barcelona next month but I ain't signing for them.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jul 8, 2019 18:49:14 GMT
I don't get why we're struggling to sell him?
He's a good player.
We overpaid no doubt but surely there's someone in the PL willing to pay 8m? He's well worth it despite being a twat.
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Post by GoBoks on Jul 8, 2019 18:52:24 GMT
I don't get why we're struggling to sell him? He's a good player. We overpaid no doubt but surely there's someone in the PL willing to pay 8m? He's well worth it despite being a twat. Would you be pleased if Stoke was in the process of buying him for 8 Million (knowing what you know about him)?
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Post by FullerMagic on Jul 8, 2019 18:57:43 GMT
They're talking about it on Turkish TV. Maybe it's a double swoop for him and Benik?
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jul 8, 2019 19:02:50 GMT
I don't get why we're struggling to sell him? He's a good player. We overpaid no doubt but surely there's someone in the PL willing to pay 8m? He's well worth it despite being a twat. Would you be pleased if Stoke was in the process of buying him for 8 Million (knowing what you know about him)? If we were a top flight club not in freefall, yes.
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Post by GoBoks on Jul 8, 2019 19:12:20 GMT
Would you be pleased if Stoke was in the process of buying him for 8 Million (knowing what you know about him)? If we were a top flight club not in freefall, yes. I guess paying 8 Million for a failed player at a lower league team is good business for a Premiership club then? I wonder what signing an exciting young player, who was tipped to be a star of the England set-up but had come off the rails a little, from another Premiership team for 12 Million would be called?
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jul 8, 2019 19:15:51 GMT
If we were a top flight club not in freefall, yes. I guess paying 8 Million for a failed player at a lower league team is good business for a Premiership club then? I wonder what signing an exciting young player, who was tipped to be a star of the England set-up but had come off the rails a little, from another Premiership team for 12 Million would be called? He played pretty well for us in the PL I thought. Who is that (the 12m player)?
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Post by GeneralFaye on Jul 8, 2019 19:19:27 GMT
"apart from being a twat".. you know what, clubs might see that as a reason not to sign him
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Post by thehoof on Jul 8, 2019 19:20:29 GMT
I’d love somebody to tell me one game that he dominated or even performed in for more than 45 minutes? The reason that there are limited in fact no takers for him is that he was and is £14m of bang average mard arse.
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Post by Gary Hackett on Jul 9, 2019 5:43:08 GMT
He's a good player and I'd like him to stay but I can see why there's no real interest in him. He had a few decent games in the PL.
I'd force him to stay and once the window closes he knows he can't go anywhere and I'm sure he'd apply himself to get a return to the PL with us or a move when the window reopens.
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Post by GeneralFaye on Jul 9, 2019 5:56:31 GMT
He's a good player and I'd like him to stay but I can see why there's no real interest in him. He had a few decent games in the PL. I'd force him to stay and once the window closes he knows he can't go anywhere and I'm sure he'd apply himself to get a return to the PL with us or a move when the window reopens. I'm sorry Hackett but that's totally naive thinking. There's absolutely zero evidence he'd "apply himself" at all. Why do you want to keep a player around the club who wants nothing to do with us?!
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Post by cobhamstokey on Jul 9, 2019 6:10:43 GMT
I don't get why we're struggling to sell him? He's a good player. We overpaid no doubt but surely there's someone in the PL willing to pay 8m? He's well worth it despite being a twat. Because he appears to be calling the shots re only wanting to play in Turkey.
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Post by GreaterGlasgowstokie on Jul 9, 2019 6:34:07 GMT
I’d love somebody to tell me one game that he dominated or even performed in for more than 45 minutes? The reason that there are limited in fact no takers for him is that he was and is £14m of bang average mard arse. At home v spurs. He was superb.
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Post by s7oke on Jul 9, 2019 6:39:05 GMT
To be honest our transfer team couldn’t sell a Sunday dinner to a starving billionaire!!!
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Post by GeneralFaye on Jul 9, 2019 6:41:24 GMT
I’d love somebody to tell me one game that he dominated or even performed in for more than 45 minutes? The reason that there are limited in fact no takers for him is that he was and is £14m of bang average mard arse. At home v spurs. He was superb. So was Tom Soares once upon a time.
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Post by Gary Hackett on Jul 9, 2019 6:49:41 GMT
He's a good player and I'd like him to stay but I can see why there's no real interest in him. He had a few decent games in the PL. I'd force him to stay and once the window closes he knows he can't go anywhere and I'm sure he'd apply himself to get a return to the PL with us or a move when the window reopens. I'm sorry Hackett but that's totally naive thinking. There's absolutely zero evidence he'd "apply himself" at all. Why do you want to keep a player around the club who wants nothing to do with us?! We dont know it's him though do we, it very much sounds like his agent whispering in his ear.
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Jul 9, 2019 6:53:11 GMT
I'm sorry Hackett but that's totally naive thinking. There's absolutely zero evidence he'd "apply himself" at all. Why do you want to keep a player around the club who wants nothing to do with us?! We dont know it's him though do we, it very much sounds like his agent whispering in his ear. If he's allowing his agent to 'whisper in his ear' then it is him to a degree isn't it? He's an adult.
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Post by scfc5 on Jul 9, 2019 6:53:34 GMT
He's a good player and I'd like him to stay but I can see why there's no real interest in him. He had a few decent games in the PL. I'd force him to stay and once the window closes he knows he can't go anywhere and I'm sure he'd apply himself to get a return to the PL with us or a move when the window reopens. I’m not certain what makes you so sure he’d pitch in and help. How do you know he wouldn’t be an irritant who agitates until January? The sort of character NJ wants rid of. I don’t know either, but I’m happy to trust the instincts of the manager on this one.
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Post by Gary Hackett on Jul 9, 2019 8:18:51 GMT
We dont know it's him though do we, it very much sounds like his agent whispering in his ear. If he's allowing his agent to 'whisper in his ear' then it is him to a degree isn't it? He's an adult. I think most footballers let their agents decide everything nowadays.
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Post by Laughing Gravy on Jul 9, 2019 8:25:15 GMT
We dont know it's him though do we, it very much sounds like his agent whispering in his ear. If he's allowing his agent to 'whisper in his ear' then it is him to a degree isn't it? He's an adult. It's not very often you hear that accusation being levelled at a professional footballer.
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Jul 9, 2019 8:28:45 GMT
If he's allowing his agent to 'whisper in his ear' then it is him to a degree isn't it? He's an adult. I think most footballers let their agents decide everything nowadays. That's on them then isn't it? If they didn't want their agent to do something, they can say so.
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Post by jimmygscfc on Jul 9, 2019 9:35:01 GMT
His agent needs to do a better job and get him a new club...permanently. He can spend the next few years going out on loan to Turkish clubs. Perhaps one of them might stump up some cash.
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Post by stokesupporter on Jul 9, 2019 10:52:55 GMT
Its unbeliavable that we have ended up with players who don't want to play for us and are acting like a free agents.
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Post by GeneralFaye on Jul 9, 2019 10:55:36 GMT
Its unbeliavable that we have ended up with players who don't want to play for us and are acting like a free agents. Erik Pieters just tried to fuck off for nothing as well the cheeky bellend.
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Post by stokesupporter on Jul 9, 2019 11:03:50 GMT
I think we should make an example out of Ndiaye and keep him here... that is if nobody won't pay a decent transfer fee from him.. He'll come around after training 4-5 months with U23's and eventually simply has to fight for his place in the team and play unless he'd chose to spoil his future career for good.
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Post by lordb on Jul 9, 2019 11:06:54 GMT
At home v spurs. He was superb. So was Tom Soares once upon a time. That'a true, he had an amazing 30 minutes in that bonkers game in 2008 Badou was not outstanding but he looked pretty good/not bad at all in his spell here, thought he would have attracted Premier League interest albeit at either a knockdown price or a loan
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Post by thehoof on Jul 9, 2019 11:15:47 GMT
I’d love somebody to tell me one game that he dominated or even performed in for more than 45 minutes? The reason that there are limited in fact no takers for him is that he was and is £14m of bang average mard arse. At home v spurs. He was superb. We lost - you don’t lose games where you have dominated the midfield; he was actually better in our last game at Swansea; probably because he’d already decided he’d had enough. There is no way he will offer ANYTHING to Stoke given his well documented view of where he should be. Unless someone will give us £8 to £10m for him ( which is unlikely) make the useless **** vegetate in the furthest corner of Clayton Wood that we can find. No doubt the contract that we have given him will enable him to piss all over Stoke for as long as he wants, eh Tony?
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