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Post by stokie223 on Aug 13, 2019 13:41:18 GMT
All the talk about having a team we can be tour of bad players that want to be here just more crap from NJ. You can’t pick and choose after you’ve bombed out supposed bad eggs like Pieters, Diouf and Bauer and then try to talk someone round who has literally said a number of times “ I don’t want to play for Stoke City” cos you’ve fucked to your transfer window. It’s bollocks. Couldn't agree more. I don't understand why so many of our fans want him in the squad when he's either directly himself, or through his agent, said that he doesn't want to be here and doesn't want to play in the second tier of English football. If that's your attitude, then move on. He stunk the place out against Leeds last year, then seemingly threw his toys out of the pram to force through a move back to Turkey. Good player, but if his heart isn't in it then that's irrelevant.
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Post by LankyPotter on Aug 13, 2019 13:43:35 GMT
Ndiaye may not be fully committed and perhaps he doesn't want to be at the club, however I'd play him any day of the week instead of the waste of space yet first on the teamsheet Joe Allen! If Etebo makes the team Satdee you can bet you're sweet ass it won't be Allen who makes way. Amen, drop Joe Allen.
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Post by boskampsflaps on Aug 13, 2019 14:15:31 GMT
Jones won't play him if he is not willing to fight for the cause. Interestingly Jones talks as though he is here to play, if so he would be a huge asset. Maybe Badou likes what he sees and wants to be a part of it, maybe the atmosphere around the team is much better or maybe he is here in name only. He also said Bojan was in his plans and look how that turned out. Maybe he was and then he saw him play..
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Post by realstokebloke on Aug 13, 2019 14:16:44 GMT
Plays instead of Allen and along side Etebo for me Definitely. Dream scenario is Woods at the base, Etebo and him taking the place of Allen and Clucas, Clucas moved to left-back - and one of Powell/Ince/Duffy at No.10 - behind Hogan and Gregory Yup, that's about as good as we could get with the present personnel.
The "dream" however was to have nailed a proper CDM and a LWB - something I'm reticent to forgive him for unless both spots come good with players already within the squad.
Clucas is the best of a bad bunch arguably at LWB and Woods might be the rightful shirt owner for CDM (he played better, yes, but wtf was he doing at times in Saturday, turning into trouble on / in his own box & very easily shrugged off the ball etc.)?
While Tom played well and scored a belter, I remain intrigued by Duffy and would love to see him deliver on his SU fan hype when he left.
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Post by clarkeda on Aug 13, 2019 14:31:17 GMT
Plays instead of Allen and along side Etebo for me Definitely. Dream scenario is Woods at the base, Etebo and him taking the place of Allen and Clucas, Clucas moved to left-back - and one of Powell/Ince/Duffy at No.10 - behind Hogan and Gregory Nailed it. Dare I even suggest... Ccv Collins Lindsey Edwards badou Etebo clucas Powell/Duffy/Ince Hogan Gregory I personally think that looks UNREAL.
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Post by Gary Hackett on Aug 13, 2019 14:35:16 GMT
Definitely. Dream scenario is Woods at the base, Etebo and him taking the place of Allen and Clucas, Clucas moved to left-back - and one of Powell/Ince/Duffy at No.10 - behind Hogan and Gregory Nailed it. Dare I even suggest... Ccv Collins Lindsey Edwards badou Etebo clucas Powell/Duffy/Ince Hogan Gregory I personally think that looks UNREAL. 4231 Butland Edwards Baath Lindsay Clucas Woods Etebo Duffy Powell Ince Gregory
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Post by robrigo on Aug 13, 2019 14:36:53 GMT
Definitely. Dream scenario is Woods at the base, Etebo and him taking the place of Allen and Clucas, Clucas moved to left-back - and one of Powell/Ince/Duffy at No.10 - behind Hogan and Gregory Nailed it. Dare I even suggest... Ccv Collins Lindsey Edwards badou Etebo clucas Powell/Duffy/Ince Hogan Gregory I personally think that looks UNREAL. That’s 12 players mate. But fuck it. I’m happy with that! 👍
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Post by s7oke on Aug 13, 2019 14:46:00 GMT
Nailed it. Dare I even suggest... Ccv Collins Lindsey Edwards badou Etebo clucas Powell/Duffy/Ince Hogan Gregory I personally think that looks UNREAL. That’s 12 players mate. But fuck it. I’m happy with that! 👍 And no keeper Bit open at the back 😱
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Post by GreaterGlasgowstokie on Aug 13, 2019 14:51:02 GMT
All the talk about having a team we can be tour of bad players that want to be here just more crap from NJ. You can’t pick and choose after you’ve bombed out supposed bad eggs like Pieters, Diouf and Bauer and then try to talk someone round who has literally said a number of times “ I don’t want to play for Stoke City” cos you’ve fucked to your transfer window. It’s bollocks. Couldn't agree more. I don't understand why so many of our fans want him in the squad when he's either directly himself, or through his agent, said that he doesn't want to be here and doesn't want to play in the second tier of English football. If that's your attitude, then move on. He stunk the place out against Leeds last year, then seemingly threw his toys out of the pram to force through a move back to Turkey. Good player, but if his heart isn't in it then that's irrelevant. Who's hearts ARE in it? Looking at the gutless spineless losing performances we put out without fail, even against shit opposition, I don't see anyone who cares.
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Post by clarkeda on Aug 13, 2019 14:53:10 GMT
Nailed it. Dare I even suggest... Ccv Collins Lindsey Edwards badou Etebo clucas Powell/Duffy/Ince Hogan Gregory I personally think that looks UNREAL. That’s 12 players mate. But fuck it. I’m happy with that! 👍 Haha, it’s one of Powell Duffy and Ince you little rascal. Butland in goal too.
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Post by trickydicky73 on Aug 13, 2019 14:54:55 GMT
Nailed it. Dare I even suggest... Ccv Collins Lindsey Edwards badou Etebo clucas Powell/Duffy/Ince Hogan Gregory I personally think that looks UNREAL. That’s 12 players mate. But fuck it. I’m happy with that! 👍 Hopefully Diane Abbott is the ref.
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Post by march4 on Aug 13, 2019 14:58:59 GMT
Was this guy really any good in our relegation season? All I remember from him was a good 20 minutes in a handful of matches.
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Post by thestatusquo on Aug 13, 2019 14:59:28 GMT
That’s 12 players mate. But fuck it. I’m happy with that! 👍 And no keeper Bit open at the back 😱 Would we notice the difference? 🤭
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Post by stokie223 on Aug 13, 2019 15:27:23 GMT
Couldn't agree more. I don't understand why so many of our fans want him in the squad when he's either directly himself, or through his agent, said that he doesn't want to be here and doesn't want to play in the second tier of English football. If that's your attitude, then move on. He stunk the place out against Leeds last year, then seemingly threw his toys out of the pram to force through a move back to Turkey. Good player, but if his heart isn't in it then that's irrelevant. Who's hearts ARE in it? Looking at the gutless spineless losing performances we put out without fail, even against shit opposition, I don't see anyone who cares. I don't think I could disagree with that to be honest. Personally, however, I think it would be a negative influence on the squad to have someone whose been so public/vocal in his desire to move away. It would make even less sense given NJ has constantly said he only wants to keep good characters and players that want to be here.
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Post by kustokie on Aug 13, 2019 15:42:06 GMT
He also said Bojan was in his plans and look how that turned out. Maybe he was and then he saw him play.. Could be. Hopefully he comes to a similar conclusion for other players, like McLean and Allen (at DM). Reluctantly, I’d drop Butland too.
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Post by serpico on Aug 13, 2019 15:59:18 GMT
Was this guy really any good in our relegation season? All I remember from him was a good 20 minutes in a handful of matches. Name one player who was any good in our relegation season ? ...
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Post by stokiemarc on Aug 13, 2019 16:11:39 GMT
Was this guy really any good in our relegation season? All I remember from him was a good 20 minutes in a handful of matches. Name one player who was any good in our relegation season ? ... Bauer
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Post by stantheman on Aug 13, 2019 16:18:14 GMT
Was this guy really any good in our relegation season? All I remember from him was a good 20 minutes in a handful of matches. Name one player who was any good in our relegation season ? ... Without Shaq, we would have been relegated by Valentines Day!
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Post by march4 on Aug 13, 2019 16:24:32 GMT
Was this guy really any good in our relegation season? All I remember from him was a good 20 minutes in a handful of matches. Name one player who was any good in our relegation season ? ... There is still a relative scale of awfulness. This guy would be somewhere in the middle for me.
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Post by serpico on Aug 13, 2019 16:27:18 GMT
Name one player who was any good in our relegation season ? ... There is still a relative scale of awfulness. This guy would be somewhere in the middle for me. True, but perhaps at this level he might prove useful ? Might aswell try get something out of him for the 14m we paid ? 😐
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Post by serpico on Aug 13, 2019 16:36:55 GMT
Name one player who was any good in our relegation season ? ... Without Shaq, we would have been relegated by Valentines Day! but even he wasn’t pulling up any trees though, was he ?
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Post by jezzascfc on Aug 14, 2019 19:19:35 GMT
There is a pleasing symmetry in the great Zonz moving to Galatarasay, thereby blocking Badou's return and consigning him to picking his bottom lip off the floor, getting down to work and actually earning his wages at Stoke.
If we get to 1st Sept with him still here, and he buys into the Jones project, I will be delighted. Etebo and Badou would be immense in the middle of the park for us.
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Post by franklin66 on Aug 14, 2019 21:34:47 GMT
Despite all the waffle the facts are simple we paid millions for him we're paying him millions and we have three options. Sell him but for an agreeable fee.
Keep him and try to get him to give a fuck and potentially earn a move by playing well.
Keep him but he dunna want to play and just leave him to rot and fine him as appropriate.
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Post by Rt Hon Reverend Luvpump on Aug 14, 2019 23:05:53 GMT
Ndiaye may not be fully committed and perhaps he doesn't want to be at the club, however I'd play him any day of the week instead of the waste of space yet first on the teamsheet Joe Allen! If Etebo makes the team Satdee you can bet you're sweet ass it won't be Allen who makes way. Amen, drop Joe Allen. I think Allen will be a Glen Whelan scenario,you think he runs round like a headless chicken but when he’s gone you realise he was an important part of the team.I was the same with whelan he never shot always passed side wards or back then when he left I realised we needed that in the team.
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Post by rawli on Aug 14, 2019 23:10:52 GMT
I think Allen will be a Glen Whelan scenario,you think he runs round like a headless chicken but when he’s gone you realise he was an important part of the team.I was the same with whelan he never shot always passed side wards or back then when he left I realised we needed that in the team. I was the same with John Gidman
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Post by Rt Hon Reverend Luvpump on Aug 14, 2019 23:17:35 GMT
I think Allen will be a Glen Whelan scenario,you think he runs round like a headless chicken but when he’s gone you realise he was an important part of the team.I was the same with whelan he never shot always passed side wards or back then when he left I realised we needed that in the team. I was the same with John Gidman I had my first season ticket in 87 but can honestly say I don’t remember him had to google him 😳
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Post by Gods on Aug 14, 2019 23:21:53 GMT
I think Allen will be a Glen Whelan scenario,you think he runs round like a headless chicken but when he’s gone you realise he was an important part of the team.I was the same with whelan he never shot always passed side wards or back then when he left I realised we needed that in the team. I was the same with John Gidman Do you mean John Gidman? The former Aston Villa right back, he of the mullet? He only ever played 10 matches for us, he looked finished and after that played 13 matches for Darlington and hung up his boots,
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Post by rawli on Aug 14, 2019 23:22:32 GMT
I was the same with John Gidman I had my first season ticket in 87 but can honestly say I don’t remember him had to google him 😳 You're lucky. He looked like a 60 year old by the time he shuffled around for us.
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Post by rawli on Aug 14, 2019 23:24:26 GMT
I was the same with John Gidman Do you mean John Gidman? The former Aston Villa right back, he of the mullet? He only ever played 10 matches for us, he looked finished and after that played 13 matches for Darlington and hung up his boots, It was the daftest example I could think of. Up there with Statham as a player.
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Post by Rt Hon Reverend Luvpump on Aug 14, 2019 23:31:52 GMT
Do you mean John Gidman? The former Aston Villa right back, he of the mullet? He only ever played 10 matches for us, he looked finished and after that played 13 matches for Darlington and hung up his boots, It was the daftest example I could think of. Up there with Statham as a player. Arrr DEADLY DECKER STATHAM now your talking 😆
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