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Post by Deleted on Jun 1, 2019 10:30:43 GMT
Absolutely love the bloke. And it really does sadden me to see things like that. The bloke was an absolute genius with a ball at his feet. Over the last 30 odd years I can’t ever remember an English footballer like him. The bloke is the reason I fell in love with football, the player I aspired to be when down forest park with the lads. Come on Gazza I honestly believe if he had chosen Man. Utd over Spurs under SAF rather than wide boy TV this could have been a totally different ending, Gazza needed a strong resilient manager to curb his behaviour instead he chose the London lights and a spiv. I agree mate, I know it’s all hindsight but you’ve got think we may have seen a different Gazza
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Jun 1, 2019 10:45:59 GMT
Post by JoeinOz on Jun 1, 2019 10:45:59 GMT
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jun 1, 2019 13:36:21 GMT
To highlight it and hope someone kicks his arse (metaphorically) into gear? Yeah, that'll inspire him. I didn’t say him?!?
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Jun 1, 2019 13:54:14 GMT
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Post by cobhamstokey on Jun 1, 2019 13:54:14 GMT
Absolutely love the bloke. And it really does sadden me to see things like that. The bloke was an absolute genius with a ball at his feet. Over the last 30 odd years I can’t ever remember an English footballer like him. The bloke is the reason I fell in love with football, the player I aspired to be when down forest park with the lads. Come on Gazza I honestly believe if he had chosen Man. Utd over Spurs under SAF rather than wide boy TV this could have been a totally different ending, Gazza needed a strong resilient manager to curb his behaviour instead he chose the London lights and a spiv. Never liked Venables always thought he was a bullshit merchant. Not Ferguson’s biggest fan but he was a great disciplinarian and it would defo have gone one of two ways but at least he’d have had a fighting chance. Venables seemed to be happy to let him do what he wanted.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 1, 2019 14:00:14 GMT
If it really was his hero he wouldn't have posted that video just for a few likes on his social media feed.
As for Gazza it's awful to see him in such a state, I thought he was back on the wagon. But also he's his own man and he's made his decisions in life.
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Jun 1, 2019 14:29:13 GMT
Post by waffles on Jun 1, 2019 14:29:13 GMT
If it really was his hero he wouldn't have posted that video just for a few likes on his social media feed. As for Gazza it's awful to see him in such a state, I thought he was back on the wagon. But also he's his own man and he's made his decisions in life. Alcohol is making his decisions, having said that how much help can one person have ,he's had enough to get 50 people off the booze.
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Jun 1, 2019 15:53:31 GMT
Post by madmickthe3rd on Jun 1, 2019 15:53:31 GMT
Sad and heartbreaking to say but he's very close now to being that 'headline' you wake up to one morning and I don't think there is any way at all of stopping it!
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Post by lawrieleslie on Jun 1, 2019 16:37:20 GMT
I don’t think some people fully understand the power of addiction......drugs, tobacco, alcohol I’ve seen a few friends destroyed by addiction that was too powerful for them to deal with.
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Post by bathstoke on Jun 1, 2019 18:15:48 GMT
The guy let his country down.... I really don't get the love in. Total arse He’s ill
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Jun 1, 2019 18:18:16 GMT
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Post by lordb on Jun 1, 2019 18:18:16 GMT
I honestly believe if he had chosen Man. Utd over Spurs under SAF rather than wide boy TV this could have been a totally different ending, Gazza needed a strong resilient manager to curb his behaviour instead he chose the London lights and a spiv. Never liked Venables always thought he was a bullshit merchant. Not Ferguson’s biggest fan but he was a great disciplinarian and it would defo have gone one of two ways but at least he’d have had a fighting chance. Venables seemed to be happy to let him do what he wanted. Venables was very good tactically and by all accounts a top coach however it's inconceivable that Ferguson would have let Gascoigne go in the direction he did.
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Jun 1, 2019 19:54:34 GMT
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Post by kelw on Jun 1, 2019 19:54:34 GMT
The guy let his country down.... I really don't get the love in. Total arse He’s ill Am sure if it was someone you didn't like they wouldn't simply be ill. Average Joe from Hanley would be a dirty smackhead etc but Gascoigne people will find excuse after excuse for despite his constant stupidity. Seems to be a celebrity thing today,get pissed up, beat up your wife, take drugs but blame it all on mental health. I take it those Jeremy Kyle types get your sympathy
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Jun 1, 2019 20:00:53 GMT
Post by bathstoke on Jun 1, 2019 20:00:53 GMT
Am sure if it was someone you didn't like they wouldn't simply be ill. I can assure you that I’ve known a lot of ill people & loved them allXx
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Jun 1, 2019 20:03:54 GMT
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Post by kelw on Jun 1, 2019 20:03:54 GMT
Am sure if it was someone you didn't like they wouldn't simply be ill. I can assure you that I’ve known a lot of ill people & loved them allXx I could have predicted that answer
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Post by trickydicky73 on Jun 1, 2019 20:09:44 GMT
As many have said he is responsible for his own demise yet I agree he is a troubled, self-defeating soul He will never recover though unless he wants to He doesn't want to.
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Post by Goonie on Jun 1, 2019 20:32:24 GMT
As many have said he is responsible for his own demise yet I agree he is a troubled, self-defeating soul He will never recover though unless he wants to He doesn't want to. Sad but true
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Jun 4, 2019 7:02:12 GMT
Post by kentpotter on Jun 4, 2019 7:02:12 GMT
Couldn't agree more with not getting the love in for him. Had a few moments of genius in a career he pissed up the wall. So did George Best. Hudson?
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Post by fishlovesoatcakes on Jun 4, 2019 7:10:04 GMT
Am sure if it was someone you didn't like they wouldn't simply be ill. Average Joe from Hanley would be a dirty smackhead etc but Gascoigne people will find excuse after excuse for despite his constant stupidity. Seems to be a celebrity thing today,get pissed up, beat up your wife, take drugs but blame it all on mental health. I take it those Jeremy Kyle types get your sympathy You're very black and white mate. I hope you don't work in mental health.
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Jun 4, 2019 7:48:16 GMT
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Post by hyaduck on Jun 4, 2019 7:48:16 GMT
Am sure if it was someone you didn't like they wouldn't simply be ill. Average Joe from Hanley would be a dirty smackhead etc but Gascoigne people will find excuse after excuse for despite his constant stupidity. Seems to be a celebrity thing today,get pissed up, beat up your wife, take drugs but blame it all on mental health. I take it those Jeremy Kyle types get your sympathy You're very black and white mate. I hope you don't work in mental health. It’s a great shame for Gascoigne and for anyone with mental health, but what really pisses me off is any ordinary bloke/woman in his situation wouldn’t get a second look. He was a good player but not the hero people make out. Before he went off the rails and was still playing he behaved like a child who’d never grown up, beat his wife and was generally a complete bell end. Mental health is an awful thing too suffer but this guy for all his demons still seems to refuse help whereas the average person on the street who’s suffering struggles to get a second chance.
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Post by 3putts on Jun 4, 2019 7:59:20 GMT
Well shit the bed a WC friendly, don't worry Hoddle got his own back when he left him out of the squad when even with his problems he was one if not the best player we had. In the build up to the 1998 tournament Gascoigne was clearly unfit. Glenn Hoddle made huge headlines by omitting him from the squad. But what initially seemed a controversial decision turned out not to be controversial at all. More just an obvious management decision that simply had to be confirmed. Gascoigne’s lack of fitness and drinking had become a serious problem, and being photographed buying a kebab didn’t help. In his autobiography Paul Gascoigne described his own violent reaction to the news and that his mindset at the time in itself was enough to justify the decision. He was clearly unhinged and being at close quarters with the squad for a month could have led to all sorts of problems. And him being too unfit to play effectively meant it just wasn’t worth the risk. Paul Gascoigne’s life had been unravelling for several years and in Hoddles room at La Manga his England career finally reached a sad undignified end. Bullshit, gazza was fit hoddle just didn't like him full stop. In one foul swoop we lost our best player and our best chance to win the wc. Maybe hoddle was taking advice from god(he is deeply religious) or was it off that fortune teller he used to consult? Either way gazza was never the same again depression and alcoholism are never a good mix and it breaks my heart to see the state of him today
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Jun 4, 2019 8:36:12 GMT
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Post by hyaduck on Jun 4, 2019 8:36:12 GMT
Give over you clown, are you seriously blaming Hoddle for his demise 😂 Gascoigne was turning up in fit and half cut and you expect him to represent his country. Just as a matter of interest, why do you adore him so much??
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Post by JoeinOz on Jun 4, 2019 10:20:20 GMT
In the build up to the 1998 tournament Gascoigne was clearly unfit. Glenn Hoddle made huge headlines by omitting him from the squad. But what initially seemed a controversial decision turned out not to be controversial at all. More just an obvious management decision that simply had to be confirmed. Gascoigne’s lack of fitness and drinking had become a serious problem, and being photographed buying a kebab didn’t help. In his autobiography Paul Gascoigne described his own violent reaction to the news and that his mindset at the time in itself was enough to justify the decision. He was clearly unhinged and being at close quarters with the squad for a month could have led to all sorts of problems. And him being too unfit to play effectively meant it just wasn’t worth the risk. Paul Gascoigne’s life had been unravelling for several years and in Hoddles room at La Manga his England career finally reached a sad undignified end. Bullshit, gazza was fit hoddle just didn't like him full stop. In one foul swoop we lost our best player and our best chance to win the wc. Maybe hoddle was taking advice from god(he is deeply religious) or was it off that fortune teller he used to consult? Either way gazza was never the same again depression and alcoholism are never a good mix and it breaks my heart to see the state of him today He was overweight and wouldn't stop drinking.... even with the greatest show on earth around the corner. Hoddle had done plenty to try and accommodate Gascoigne but in the end Gascoigne made the decision for him. And I'll tell you something else, If he'd been in the squad, and it all went as it was likely to, those hammering Hoddle for taking him would be the same people saying he should have gone. And I'll tell you something else, the hankering after Gascoigne is more to do with eight year previously.
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Jun 4, 2019 10:33:36 GMT
Post by nott1 on Jun 4, 2019 10:33:36 GMT
You're very black and white mate. I hope you don't work in mental health. It’s a great shame for Gascoigne and for anyone with mental health, but what really pisses me off is any ordinary bloke/woman in his situation wouldn’t get a second look. He was a good player but not the hero people make out. Before he went off the rails and was still playing he behaved like a child who’d never grown up, beat his wife and was generally a complete bell end. Mental health is an awful thing too suffer but this guy for all his demons still seems to refuse help whereas the average person on the street who’s suffering struggles to get a second chance. It's pathetic how some people let drink ruin their lives and does the drink come first or the mental problems?
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Post by JoeinOz on Jun 4, 2019 10:47:30 GMT
It’s a great shame for Gascoigne and for anyone with mental health, but what really pisses me off is any ordinary bloke/woman in his situation wouldn’t get a second look. He was a good player but not the hero people make out. Before he went off the rails and was still playing he behaved like a child who’d never grown up, beat his wife and was generally a complete bell end. Mental health is an awful thing too suffer but this guy for all his demons still seems to refuse help whereas the average person on the street who’s suffering struggles to get a second chance. It's pathetic how some people let drink ruin their lives and does the drink come first or the mental problems? They aren't mutually exclusive a lot of the time. Addiction is, in itself, a form of mental illness.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 4, 2019 10:52:15 GMT
It’s a great shame for Gascoigne and for anyone with mental health, but what really pisses me off is any ordinary bloke/woman in his situation wouldn’t get a second look. He was a good player but not the hero people make out. Before he went off the rails and was still playing he behaved like a child who’d never grown up, beat his wife and was generally a complete bell end. Mental health is an awful thing too suffer but this guy for all his demons still seems to refuse help whereas the average person on the street who’s suffering struggles to get a second chance. It's pathetic how some people let drink ruin their lives and does the drink come first or the mental problems? No two people are the same....these things affect people in different ways Chemically, some more than others Be thankful you're not someone like gazza
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Post by loosestools on Jun 4, 2019 17:40:05 GMT
I'm addicted to football, Stoke City and Wrights pies, Help!
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Jun 4, 2019 17:43:39 GMT
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Post by Goonie on Jun 4, 2019 17:43:39 GMT
I'm addicted to football, Stoke City and Wrights pies, Help! That'll explain your username then 'Loose stools'😁
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Post by leicspotter on Jun 4, 2019 18:50:36 GMT
It’s a great shame for Gascoigne and for anyone with mental health, but what really pisses me off is any ordinary bloke/woman in his situation wouldn’t get a second look. He was a good player but not the hero people make out. Before he went off the rails and was still playing he behaved like a child who’d never grown up, beat his wife and was generally a complete bell end. Mental health is an awful thing too suffer but this guy for all his demons still seems to refuse help whereas the average person on the street who’s suffering struggles to get a second chance. It's pathetic how some people let drink ruin their lives and does the drink come first or the mental problems? Maybe you haven't lost a loved one to alcoholism then?
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Post by fishlovesoatcakes on Jun 4, 2019 22:19:24 GMT
It's pathetic how some people let drink ruin their lives and does the drink come first or the mental problems? Maybe you haven't lost a loved one to alcoholism then? Mate, I think you're wasting your time. Some people have absolutely no idea what other people go through, hence their ignorance. It's all very well being judgemental when you have zero grasp on life outside your bubble. Thankfully there are people who actually care and try to support people who may not have had the luxury of a stable upbringing.
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Jun 5, 2019 0:10:35 GMT
Post by kustokie on Jun 5, 2019 0:10:35 GMT
Couldn't agree more with not getting the love in for him. Had a few moments of genius in a career he pissed up the wall. So did George Best. Incorrect. Best’s problem with booze only really started after his career was over.
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Jun 5, 2019 0:25:31 GMT
Post by hyaduck on Jun 5, 2019 0:25:31 GMT
Maybe you haven't lost a loved one to alcoholism then? Mate, I think you're wasting your time. Some people have absolutely no idea what other people go through, hence their ignorance. It's all very well being judgemental when you have zero grasp on life outside your bubble. Thankfully there are people who actually care and try to support people who may not have had the luxury of a stable upbringing. I have plenty of sympathy for people with addictions, especially those who are sleeping rough in and around Stoke on Trent. He still has all the luxury's what the average joe with his condition doesn't, he has chance after chance and people keep thinking, poor old Gazza, while you walk past people in doorways on your way to work and don't give a second glance.
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