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Post by lordb on May 31, 2019 19:54:05 GMT
Score a penalty Save a penalty Score three goals in a game Score four goals in a game Come from behind to win Score a late winner (85+minutes) Win three games on the trot Have three (or more) players score ten+ league goals.
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Post by scfc75 on May 31, 2019 20:02:36 GMT
Heated seat. Massage at half time. A lift up to my seat instead of using the stairs. Nice meal and a pint brought to me 30 mins before KO. Nobody fat or smelly within 10 yards. Anything good happening on the pitch is a bonus. Good luck with the fat and smelly bit π
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Post by ceejays on May 31, 2019 20:18:56 GMT
A thread without Bayern self righteous ramblings
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Post by berahinosgoals on May 31, 2019 20:24:55 GMT
Top 6
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Post by Staffsoatcake on May 31, 2019 20:39:58 GMT
Play offs at the very least.
Scoring more than 2 goals on a regular basis.
Finish with a good + GD
To get all the above,we have to be very attack minded,none of this pussy footing around in the other teams half.Fecking go for it.
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Post by stuammo on May 31, 2019 22:49:09 GMT
With the squad, the owners, the investment and the general poor quality of the league, how can anyone not realistically believe promotion isnβt the aim. For how bad we were all last season, we donβt actually need to improve all that much to be top 6.
Ps. A penalty scored and three goals in a game wouldnβt go amiss
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Post by bayernoatcake on May 31, 2019 23:00:11 GMT
The start of a new positive era with a defined way of playing.
Even if itβs mid table but thereβs evidence of a plan, a foothold to work from, a semblance of a team that works that would be great.
Jones has got to back his words up with actions.
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Post by owdestokie2 on Jun 1, 2019 0:22:11 GMT
Promotion
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Post by neddy on Jun 1, 2019 5:34:36 GMT
Plays offs for me still has to be the minimum requirement.
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Post by Goonie on Jun 1, 2019 7:42:00 GMT
Play-offs bare minimum
Jones will have funds to create a squad and anything less will be a disaster and possibly signal his demise amongst many fans
Is it realistic? With the resources he could command I'd say so
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Post by Goonie on Jun 1, 2019 7:43:00 GMT
Score a penalty Save a penalty Score three goals in a game Score four goals in a game Come from behind to win Score a late winner (85+minutes) Win three games on the trot Have three (or more) players score ten+ league goals. The original post stated 'REALISTIC' π
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Post by StaffordPotter on Jun 1, 2019 7:51:17 GMT
Play-offs bare minimum Jones will have funds to create a squad and anything less will be a disaster and possibly signal his demise amongst many fans Is it realistic? With the resources he could command I'd say so But say if we just missed the Play-offs and we shown signs of serious improvements, I wouldn't put that down to a disaster. As long as Jones puts his words into actions and we see a change in attitude, I'd be happy with that with and a respectable finish.
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Post by davejohnno1 on Jun 1, 2019 8:53:57 GMT
Avoid relegation?
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Post by skelman on Jun 1, 2019 8:58:27 GMT
Top 6 if Jones can really get this squad right.
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Post by christhepotter on Jun 1, 2019 9:13:18 GMT
With what we spent the last 2 windows and I think we will spend similar this window it got be promotion or were fucked with ffp
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Post by wakeypotter on Jun 1, 2019 9:32:26 GMT
Top ten at the very least and in with a shout of 6th If not I think jones will have failed and I want him to succeed
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Post by numberounominion on Jun 1, 2019 9:39:54 GMT
Impossible to predict
Stoke have for years, been in a situation where they just need a goalscorer. An easy problem to SEE, not an easy one to rectify.
My guess, tenth
Unless, we sign a greenhof /stein/ beattie, in which case promotion.
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Post by scfcno1fan on Jun 1, 2019 9:44:40 GMT
Score three goals!
I canβt believe how long itβs been.
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Post by franklin66 on Jun 1, 2019 9:45:37 GMT
Jones has one thing to do, get promoted. With the money we have there really is no excuses.
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Post by iglugluk on Jun 1, 2019 10:03:13 GMT
Play-offs.. minimum. I also expect to be disappointed in that expectation
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Post by iglugluk on Jun 1, 2019 10:05:11 GMT
A thread without Bayern self righteous ramblings
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Post by enuntio on Jun 1, 2019 10:14:14 GMT
COMMITMENT Much, much more commitment. With a minimum of a top six place.
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Post by mrcoke on Jun 1, 2019 10:21:26 GMT
Looking at the final league table this season tells its own story; there were clearly 2 teams consistently better than the rest who deservedly finished 1st and 2nd, and Villa who were best of the rest and ended the season as the form team with an excellent run of wins to secure a play-off place, and carried through to the play-offs.
It is no coincidence that the 3 teams that got promoted had the least number of defeats. Successful teams always have sound defences.
There were clearly 5 teams worst than the rest. As for those in the middle, whilst there is a wide disparity in points, virtually all the teams had good runs and poor runs/surprise defeats. Even Leeds had as many defeats as Stoke.
Our aim should obviously be promotion and if the club is aiming for anything less then that would be disgraceful. The expectation is somewhat different. There is still a lot of work to be done this summer; 1. Remove those players that are of no playing value to the team, 2. Bring in players that will fill our weak positions, and 3. Most importantly, create a team that plays as a team. This is the hardest thing to achieve and at this moment of time we have still no moved off base 1.
Just 11 wins and 45 goals is tantamount to relegation form. There is going to have to be a major turn round and at this moment in time there is little to show that it is achievable.
I think the best we can realistically hope for is that during the first half of the season Jones is able to get the players working as a team and at least hold onto a top half of the table spot. Followed by a run such as Villa achieved this season and get into a play-off spot. It is not a question of just flashing the cheque book to buy a LB, a striker, and a creative and defensive MFs, they have to be trained into playing well together, which takes many months.
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Post by spitthedog on Jun 1, 2019 10:23:15 GMT
I will be amazed if we get promoted.
The Championship is very unpredictable so anything is possible, but it will take a huge shift in virtually every department of the club.
We are going have to see some remarkable transformations in individual players' performances for a start.
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Post by CBUFAWKIPWH on Jun 1, 2019 10:35:04 GMT
Jones has one thing to do, get promoted. With the money we have there really is no excuses. I really don't get the obsession with money. We proved in the season we went down that throwing cash at a problem doesn't guarantee success. It isn't going to be our net spend that will get us promoted it will be whether Jones can put together an effective unit and the players are up for battling it out in a very competitive league. I also think a lot of people really haven't taken on board just how far we've fallen. It's perfectly realistic to expect a manager to turn a team round if the foundations are already in place. Our problem is the foundations are rotten and we're pretty much gutting the squad and starting again. It isn't realistic to expect an instant turn round in those circumstances. Jones (and any other manager for that matter) needs time. The problem is it's quite clear a lot of fans won't give him the time he needs. The quick fix junkies are going to see us change manager every sixth months, further undermine any efforts to build some sort of stable platform and see us spiral out of this league - a la Sunderland. Worse still the spend spend spenders will see us chuck money at the problem and have us go into administration - a la Bolton. All 6 clubs who have gone up in the last 2 seasons are ex-Premiership teams who have spent at least 3 seasons in the Championship - some way more. In that time they've gutted their Premiership squads and rebuilt. The lesson? It takes time to turn a failed Premiership side into a Championship side capable of promotion. That's the reality of our situation - and I fail to see why we are so different that promotion in our second season is such a given. Don't get me wrong I'd love to see us get promoted (although if we get promoted next season I'm pretty sure it would be too soon and we'd come straight back down) but expecting us to go up just doesn't seem to do our situation justice.
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Post by franklin66 on Jun 1, 2019 11:10:41 GMT
Jones has one thing to do, get promoted. With the money we have there really is no excuses. I really don't get the obsession with money. We proved in the season we went down that throwing cash at a problem doesn't guarantee success. It isn't going to be our net spend that will get us promoted it will be whether Jones can put together an effective unit and the players are up for battling it out in a very competitive league. I also think a lot of people really haven't taken on board just how far we've fallen. It's perfectly realistic to expect a manager to turn a team round if the foundations are already in place. Our problem is the foundations are rotten and we're pretty much gutting the squad and starting again. It isn't realistic to expect an instant turn round in those circumstances. Jones (and any other manager for that matter) needs time. The problem is it's quite clear a lot of fans won't give him the time he needs. The quick fix junkies are going to see us change manager every sixth months, further undermine any efforts to build some sort of stable platform and see us spiral out of this league - a la Sunderland. Worse still the spend spend spenders will see us chuck money at the problem and have us go into administration - a la Bolton. All 6 clubs who have gone up in the last 2 seasons are ex-Premiership teams who have spent at least 3 seasons in the Championship - some way more. In that time they've gutted their Premiership squads and rebuilt. The lesson? It takes time to turn a failed Premiership side into a Championship side capable of promotion. That's the reality of our situation - and I fail to see why we are so different that promotion in our second season is such a given. Don't get me wrong I'd love to see us get promoted (although if we get promoted next season I'm pretty sure it would be too soon and we'd come straight back down) but expecting us to go up just doesn't seem to do our situation justice. I did not say spend money I'm saying there should be nobody with more resources than us. We can say other than shite players or poor management there are no other excuses.
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Post by FbrgVaStkFan on Jun 1, 2019 11:28:01 GMT
Win the league. Should be the aim of every club until mathematically impossible . If only this were true in the PL...
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Post by southcoaststokie on Jun 1, 2019 11:28:31 GMT
For everyone at the club, including fans, to have a positive attitude, get a feel good factor going , and everybody pulling in the same direction to the premiership.
Ok , it said realistic in the title π , to take the lead and go and attack and get a second and a third would be good, but top 6 has to be a minimum, and I really don't think we are that far from that.
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Post by SamB_SCFC on Jun 1, 2019 11:33:47 GMT
For me it's about ridding the poison from the club and reversing the backwards momentum. A playoff challenge will be nice but I think there's too much work to do to turn us around so quickly - we were just that bad at times last season and there are so many big weaknesses in the squad.
I'll be happy if we can finish top half whilst playing better football and scoring more goals. With a sense that we're building real momentum which we can use in the following season. If Jones' signings click quickly then a playoff push isn't completely out of the question. But it'd need a very high signing success rate of 90% or above which will have to be a 360 degree turnaround from the 90% failure rate of the last 4 years or so. Can we execute such a turnaround in our failing transfer policy?
Oh and score 3 goals in a game too!
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Post by mistergumby on Jun 1, 2019 11:43:31 GMT
Between 8th and 12th. But I had money on that last season and look what happened...
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