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Post by scfc5 on Aug 21, 2019 5:05:39 GMT
Much as I am all in favour of players coming good and reviving their careers after a new opportunity, I would find it somewhat depressing if it was one of our players performing well for someone else, especially in the same league. Hopefully though if he scores a few it might bolster any transfer fee we might get for him. I think it's highly unlikely that we'll come anywhere near the outrageous fee we paid for him; even if BC was prepared to pay a couple of millions for him, would they pay his wages without us paying part of them. No we must hope he comes back a changed man and that Jones still wants to play him. Well there is an option to purchase, which presumably means a fee has been agreed, which will be more than a couple of million. We wouldn’t leave ourselves exposed at that low a figure in case he scores 30! My guess would be around £6m.
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Post by strangerthingshappen on Aug 21, 2019 6:48:37 GMT
I dont think its a major revelation to state that goalscorers' games are built on confidence and it effects all levels of their game. Look at Hogan, he will probably be unrecognisable to Villa fans now. They thought he was idle waster. If you look at their forums you will find many of the same comments you see on here about Afobe though. "How much does Scott Hogan gets paid to jog to the halfway line and back?" was one thread on the Villa forum. So far so good here. There are so many factors that contribute to this though. Confidence is one thing but it shouldn’t mean you stop trying. To say he stopped trying is rather a daft thing to say isnt it.... I just dont think our style suited him at all and for whatever reason or another hasnt exactly shone. He isnt the only striker in recent times here to crash and burn, Maybe we should be looking for the problem a little further down field..
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Aug 21, 2019 7:07:02 GMT
Hogan seems to be making the most of it though Jimm? As Gregory seems to be the grafter to create for him to be a number 9. What was that stat, in the last 5 years of strikers we've signed they've scored 53 goals in 351 games. It's a shocking stat and it's not like we;ve constantly brought donkeys It is a bit though isn’t it.
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Aug 21, 2019 7:08:05 GMT
Confidence is one thing but it shouldn’t mean you stop trying. To say he stopped trying is rather a daft thing to say isnt it.... I just dont think our style suited him at all and for whatever reason or another hasnt exactly shone. He isnt the only striker in recent times here to crash and burn, Maybe we should be looking for the problem a little further down field.. What would you describe not bothering to jump to challenge for the ball or not bothering to so much as jog back from an offside position as?
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Post by callas12 on Aug 21, 2019 7:19:52 GMT
Afobe was utter dogshit. Typical Stoke performance by him. Flattered to deceive, never looked like scoring, shit touch, ran and chased down nothing second half. From the 1 min of highlights I saw last night he stood by watching whilst both goals were tucked away.. The most energetic thing he did was jogging after the goalscorer after he'd scored towards the BCFC fans & sliding behind him on his knees.
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Post by strangerthingshappen on Aug 21, 2019 7:47:51 GMT
To say he stopped trying is rather a daft thing to say isnt it.... I just dont think our style suited him at all and for whatever reason or another hasnt exactly shone. He isnt the only striker in recent times here to crash and burn, Maybe we should be looking for the problem a little further down field.. What would you describe not bothering to jump to challenge for the ball or not bothering to so much as jog back from an offside position as? Then why has the guy scored goals wherever he's been bar here ? Because he hasnt tried ? Because he suddenly became shit when he arrived here ...
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Post by biglad180 on Aug 21, 2019 7:56:59 GMT
We should want him do well might get our money back.just did not work out here
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Post by Deleted on Aug 21, 2019 8:00:07 GMT
What would you describe not bothering to jump to challenge for the ball or not bothering to so much as jog back from an offside position as? Then why has the guy scored goals wherever he's been bar here ? Because he hasnt tried ? Because he suddenly became shit when he arrived here ... Yes exactly. He scored everywhere else and not here and one of the reasons was that he clearly wasn’t trying that hard here. As evidenced by failing to run or jump or even remotely look bothered.
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Aug 21, 2019 8:12:11 GMT
What would you describe not bothering to jump to challenge for the ball or not bothering to so much as jog back from an offside position as? Then why has the guy scored goals wherever he's been bar here ? Because he hasnt tried ? Because he suddenly became shit when he arrived here ... 1) He hasn’t. 2) I watched him with my own eyes for Stoke, are you saying that stuff didn’t happen because he’s played for other clubs? 3) Fans of other clubs suggested he was lazy and not much more than a poacher, even at clubs he did well at
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Post by estrangedsonoffaye on Aug 21, 2019 8:12:37 GMT
What would you describe not bothering to jump to challenge for the ball or not bothering to so much as jog back from an offside position as? Then why has the guy scored goals wherever he's been bar here ? Because he hasnt tried ? Because he suddenly became shit when he arrived here ... Because he hasn't got that many goals elsewhere really, last season was the closest he'd got to double figures in all competitions for 4 years. He had a decent strike rate at Wolves but other than that his career has been pretty meh.
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Post by thebet365 on Aug 21, 2019 9:00:47 GMT
What would you describe not bothering to jump to challenge for the ball or not bothering to so much as jog back from an offside position as? Then why has the guy scored goals wherever he's been bar here ? Because he hasnt tried ? Because he suddenly became shit when he arrived here ... Sheff Wed 1 in 6 games MK Dons 1 in 2.2 games Wolves 1 in 2.21 games Bournemouth 1 in 6.3 games Stoke 1 in 5.75 games He's hardly got a great record at Sheff Wed or Bournemouth has he ? Wolves have got the best out of him but even they didn't want him after his 2nd spell.
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Post by Lakeland Potter on Aug 21, 2019 9:19:46 GMT
We should want him do well might get our money back.just did not work out here Agreed. Tempting as it is to want failed Stoke players to sink without trace after they leave us, we should all hope that he does well UNTIL HE IS SOLD - after that he can never score again and I won't be worried!
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Post by Deleted on Aug 21, 2019 13:42:01 GMT
I think it's highly unlikely that we'll come anywhere near the outrageous fee we paid for him; even if BC was prepared to pay a couple of millions for him, would they pay his wages without us paying part of them. No we must hope he comes back a changed man and that Jones still wants to play him. Well there is an option to purchase, which presumably means a fee has been agreed, which will be more than a couple of million. We wouldn’t leave ourselves exposed at that low a figure in case he scores 30! My guess would be around £6m. If he does score 30 then BC can find the money and it will be a bargain buy. But if his figure is around 8 then they will be tempted to think the money is better spent on another player.
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Post by berahinosgoals on Aug 21, 2019 14:12:50 GMT
Well there is an option to purchase, which presumably means a fee has been agreed, which will be more than a couple of million. We wouldn’t leave ourselves exposed at that low a figure in case he scores 30! My guess would be around £6m. If he does score 30 then BC can find the money and it will be a bargain buy. But if his figure is around 8 then they will be tempted to think the money is better spent on another player. Benny kafobe? 30 goals? 🤭
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Post by elystokie on Aug 21, 2019 16:42:44 GMT
If he does score 30 then BC can find the money and it will be a bargain buy. But if his figure is around 8 then they will be tempted to think the money is better spent on another player. Benny kafobe? 30 goals? 🤭 Think that's including the pre match warm-ups.
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Post by sheriffofrockridge on Aug 24, 2019 23:05:08 GMT
He'll get 15-20 goals at Brizzle alongside Diehdiou (sp) Not a chance. Not looking good for you already Rocky me owd fruit.
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Post by chuckrocky on Aug 24, 2019 23:08:12 GMT
Not looking good for you already Rocky me owd fruit. Jumping the gun a bit mate.
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Post by sheriffofrockridge on Aug 24, 2019 23:20:48 GMT
Not looking good for you already Rocky me owd fruit. Jumping the gun a bit mate. Been arguing all night with my Mrs. Turns out she's always fucking right. Was looking for a little boost before bed pal.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 25, 2019 6:32:13 GMT
The truth is he didn't want to be here. He pretty much said that after he joined when he criticised Wolves for how they treated him. Add onto that how Rowett used him and you can understand why he's gone away and started scoring.
Ultimately it's down to a ridiculous transfer process that has seen us into this position.
Pretty much a blind man, pin the tail on the donkey approach with no strategy to it at all.
If only we were owned by a world class gambling company with a stats model that could be applied to a transfer model, a bit like Matt Benham at Brentford, where we could pinpoint exceptional value in the market place, and pick up players from anywhere that were fit for purpose.
If only!
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Post by bayernoatcake on Aug 25, 2019 7:12:31 GMT
The truth is he didn't want to be here. He pretty much said that after he joined when he criticised Wolves for how they treated him. Add onto that how Rowett used him and you can understand why he's gone away and started scoring. Ultimately it's down to a ridiculous transfer process that has seen us into this position. Pretty much a blind man, pin the tail on the donkey approach with no strategy to it at all. If only we were owned by a world class gambling company with a stats model that could be applied to a transfer model, a bit like Matt Benham at Brentford, where we could pinpoint exceptional value in the market place, and pick up players from anywhere that were fit for purpose. If only! Still better than what we have. But like what we have, hasn’t been used right since he got here. Playing long ball to Gegory yesterday was one of the daftest bits of management we’ve seen up Stoke for some time.
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Post by jontimmis on Aug 26, 2019 23:16:19 GMT
Got to laugh! Is that 3 in 3?
Hilarious, you couldn’t write it.
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Post by davejohnno1 on Aug 27, 2019 9:08:56 GMT
Got to laugh! Is that 3 in 3? Hilarious, you couldn’t write it. He had 2 in 2, 3 in 4 when he joined us. Lets not get carried away
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Post by heworksardtho on Aug 27, 2019 9:11:37 GMT
Lot 10kg in weight he’s like a racing snake 🐍 now 😎
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Post by Championship Potter on Sept 19, 2019 8:13:13 GMT
Rumours on Twitter he has done his ACL and is out for the season. Hopefully not true!
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Post by FullerMagic on Sept 19, 2019 8:17:50 GMT
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Post by FullerMagic on Sept 19, 2019 8:23:57 GMT
You’ve probably heard the rumours about an alleged injury to Benik Afobe that have been doing the rounds since last night.
We’ve been trying to get to the bottom of it and unfortunately it appears to be the case.
In what would be a devastating blow, the striker suffered a suspected ruptured anterior cruciate ligament in training this week, and could well be ruled out for the rest of the season.
FULL STORY COMING SHORTLY
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Post by sheikhmomo on Sept 19, 2019 8:27:20 GMT
What an absolute disaster for al concerned, the player, Bristol and fucking us who are now stuck with him and paying for his rehabilitation and probably loaning him out again at best when he's fit.
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Post by realstokebloke on Sept 19, 2019 8:29:00 GMT
Ouch.
Wouldn't wish that on anyone.
(Actually, on second thoughts ... )
But anyway ... plus he's still 'ours'. Back here for rehab?
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Post by cousindupree on Sept 19, 2019 8:29:33 GMT
Wow that's awful news! I have laughed off the notion that the club is cursed..... but maybe Coates should be looking for an exorcist rather than anew manager
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Post by essexstokey on Sept 19, 2019 8:31:02 GMT
What an absolute disaster for al concerned, the player, Bristol and fucking us who are now stuck with him and paying for his rehabilitation and probably loaning him out again at best when he's fit. think the insurance may take care of that
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