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Post by MilanStokie on May 21, 2019 16:44:22 GMT
It's #1 with Barnsley in the Championship or #2 with Stoke in the Championship then? Pretty sure if he does sign for us, it will be for the #1 spot. Young and supposed unproven keepers have been doing just fine in this league for a while now. Davies Federici #3 no idea, I think we released 2 young keepers? No, I'd have him as the number 1 with a better (better than Federici) experienced goalie in the wings if he can't make the step up. We did. We still have Bursik but he's a proper flapper. He's nowhere near ready. In reality though, who could we get who is happy to be a #2? 3 decent keepers at this level isn't common, I think Davies + Federici is likely to be the main 2, who the 3rd is probably up for grabs.
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Post by spitthedog on May 21, 2019 16:47:31 GMT
No, I'd have him as the number 1 with a better (better than Federici) experienced goalie in the wings if he can't make the step up. We did. We still have Bursik but he's a proper flapper. He's nowhere near ready. In reality though, who could we get who is happy to be a #2? 3 decent keepers at this level isn't common, I think Davies + Federici is likely to be the main 2, who the 3rd is probably up for grabs. He won't be coming here to be a No.2.
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Post by bayernoatcake on May 21, 2019 17:11:32 GMT
No, I'd have him as the number 1 with a better (better than Federici) experienced goalie in the wings if he can't make the step up. We did. We still have Bursik but he's a proper flapper. He's nowhere near ready. In reality though, who could we get who is happy to be a #2? 3 decent keepers at this level isn't common, I think Davies + Federici is likely to be the main 2, who the 3rd is probably up for grabs. Me too and I think that is dangerous. Federici is massively dodgy. As for who, no idea tbh. But putting your eggs into a League One shaped basked seems risky.
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Post by MilanStokie on May 21, 2019 17:21:55 GMT
In reality though, who could we get who is happy to be a #2? 3 decent keepers at this level isn't common, I think Davies + Federici is likely to be the main 2, who the 3rd is probably up for grabs. He won't be coming here to be a No.2. I just said exactly that on my reply before...
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Post by Veritas on May 21, 2019 17:22:20 GMT
In reality though, who could we get who is happy to be a #2? 3 decent keepers at this level isn't common, I think Davies + Federici is likely to be the main 2, who the 3rd is probably up for grabs. Me too and I think that is dangerous. Federici is massively dodgy. As for who, no idea tbh. But putting your eggs into a League One shaped basked seems risky. Federici is massively dodgy on what evidence?
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Post by crouchpotato1 on May 21, 2019 17:31:55 GMT
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Post by kelw on May 21, 2019 17:33:26 GMT
Me too and I think that is dangerous. Federici is massively dodgy. As for who, no idea tbh. But putting your eggs into a League One shaped basked seems risky. Federici is massively dodgy on what evidence? The games he's played for us Dreadful at Forest
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Post by Veritas on May 21, 2019 18:36:16 GMT
Federici is massively dodgy on what evidence? The games he's played for us Dreadful at Forest One game behind a very porous defence! I have no firm view on Federici and will trust Andy Quy to advise Nathan on his suitability.
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Post by FullerMagic on May 21, 2019 19:03:22 GMT
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Post by bayernoatcake on May 21, 2019 19:09:36 GMT
Me too and I think that is dangerous. Federici is massively dodgy. As for who, no idea tbh. But putting your eggs into a League One shaped basked seems risky. Federici is massively dodgy on what evidence? His career. Good midfielder though.
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Post by bayernoatcake on May 21, 2019 19:12:45 GMT
The games he's played for us Dreadful at Forest One game behind a very porous defence! I have no firm view on Federici and will trust Andy Quy to advise Nathan on his suitability. Where does this reputation of Quy’s come from? Generally the keepers he’s worked with have been good already. Butland’s kicking got worse and his command of his area has got worse the longer he’s been here. And with Bego and Butland neither can save a penalty and have the same technique for trying to save them. Flop to one side. He has got a great reputation though but it doesn’t actually seem to be based on much.
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Post by Pugsley on May 21, 2019 20:22:03 GMT
Me too and I think that is dangerous. Federici is massively dodgy. As for who, no idea tbh. But putting your eggs into a League One shaped basked seems risky. Federici is massively dodgy on what evidence? His record at every club he has been where he has played regularly. Chucks 'em in.
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Post by StokeTudoGuy on May 21, 2019 20:30:05 GMT
One game behind a very porous defence! I have no firm view on Federici and will trust Andy Quy to advise Nathan on his suitability. Where does this reputation of Quy’s come from? Generally the keepers he’s worked with have been good already. Butland’s kicking got worse and his command of his area has got worse the longer he’s been here. And with Bego and Butland neither can save a penalty and have the same technique for trying to save them. Flop to one side. He has got a great reputation though but it doesn’t actually seem to be based on much. You really don't like anything about Stoke City do you? Either that or you live to play devil's advocate.
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Post by FullerMagic on May 21, 2019 20:30:23 GMT
Bit harsh on Federici. Nearly 200 games for Reading in the Championship and lasted for a decade there. He's obviously no world beater, but doubt we'll find much better to get Championship splinters. Rowett obviously concluded he was about as good as we could get for a pretty thankless role. hobnob.royals.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=127386&start=20
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Post by crouchpotato1 on May 21, 2019 20:32:40 GMT
Bit harsh on Federici. Nearly 200 games for Reading in the Championship and lasted for a decade there. He's obviously no world beater, but doubt we'll find much better to get Championship splinters. Rowett obviously concluded he was about as good as we could get for a pretty thankless role. hobnob.royals.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=127386&start=20Spot on FM but the experts on here know best🙄
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Post by bayernoatcake on May 21, 2019 20:34:17 GMT
Where does this reputation of Quy’s come from? Generally the keepers he’s worked with have been good already. Butland’s kicking got worse and his command of his area has got worse the longer he’s been here. And with Bego and Butland neither can save a penalty and have the same technique for trying to save them. Flop to one side. He has got a great reputation though but it doesn’t actually seem to be based on much. You really don't like anything about Stoke City do you? Either that or you live to play devil's advocate. I love the club. But it’s true isn’t it? There isn’t actually much evidence to back it up.
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Post by bayernoatcake on May 21, 2019 20:35:43 GMT
Bit harsh on Federici. Nearly 200 games for Reading in the Championship and lasted for a decade there. He's obviously no world beater, but doubt we'll find much better to get Championship splinters. Rowett obviously concluded he was about as good as we could get for a pretty thankless role. hobnob.royals.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=127386&start=20Rowett thought McClean was good enough. Pugs is spot on, Federici has thrown them in pretty consistently in his career. Always one I’ve thought was a real dodgy keeper.
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Post by kelw on May 21, 2019 20:36:28 GMT
The games he's played for us Dreadful at Forest One game behind a very porous defence! I have no firm view on Federici and will trust Andy Quy to advise Nathan on his suitability. So you're blaming the defence for his mistakes that night? Interesting
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Post by FullerMagic on May 21, 2019 20:37:51 GMT
Bit harsh on Federici. Nearly 200 games for Reading in the Championship and lasted for a decade there. He's obviously no world beater, but doubt we'll find much better to get Championship splinters. Rowett obviously concluded he was about as good as we could get for a pretty thankless role. hobnob.royals.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=127386&start=20Rowett thought McClean was good enough. Pugs is spot on, Federici has thrown them in pretty consistently in his career. Always one I’ve thought was a real dodgy keeper. There isn't a queue for good keepers to sit on the bench anywhere! You're doing quite well if you get someone who's merely "dodgy" as your back-up at this level. We've been well and truly spoilt.
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Post by sneydgreenstokie1 on May 21, 2019 20:39:50 GMT
Some poor suckers could end with Haugaurd!
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Post by crapslinger on May 21, 2019 20:41:19 GMT
In reality though, who could we get who is happy to be a #2? 3 decent keepers at this level isn't common, I think Davies + Federici is likely to be the main 2, who the 3rd is probably up for grabs. Me too and I think that is dangerous. Federici is massively dodgy. As for who, no idea tbh. But putting your eggs into a League One shaped basked seems risky. You sign a L1 manager you get L1 players it is what he knows, he has proved he struggles with higher quality so resorting to what he knows, I ca see this going tits up very early next season.
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Post by bayernoatcake on May 21, 2019 20:48:20 GMT
Rowett thought McClean was good enough. Pugs is spot on, Federici has thrown them in pretty consistently in his career. Always one I’ve thought was a real dodgy keeper. There isn't a queue for good keepers to sit on the bench anywhere! You're doing quite well if you get someone who's merely "dodgy" as your back-up at this level. We've been well and truly spoilt. We have I guess but to go into next season with a League One goalie as the #1 with someone as bad as Federici behind him is completely negligent imo.
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Post by sneydgreenstokie1 on May 21, 2019 20:48:24 GMT
Crapslinger and Bayern - perhaps you could go and encourage each other somewhere else Both properly depressing
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Post by bayernoatcake on May 21, 2019 20:49:29 GMT
Crapslinger and Bayern - perhaps you could go and encourage each other somewhere else Both properly depressing Our plight as things stand is thoroughly depressing though.
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Post by questionable on May 21, 2019 20:53:41 GMT
Me too and I think that is dangerous. Federici is massively dodgy. As for who, no idea tbh. But putting your eggs into a League One shaped basked seems risky. You sign a L1 manager you get L1 players it is what he knows, he has proved he struggles with higher quality so resorting to what he knows, I ca see this going tits up very early next season. This is what confuses me with the likes of Vokes and Batth, there’s not a chance they’re his signings he’d never be in for this calibre of player and would have never contemplated them in his future plans.
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Post by FullerMagic on May 21, 2019 20:57:15 GMT
You sign a L1 manager you get L1 players it is what he knows, he has proved he struggles with higher quality so resorting to what he knows, I ca see this going tits up very early next season. This is what confuses me with the likes of Vokes and Batth, there’s not a chance they’re his signings he’d never be in for this calibre of player and would have never contemplated them in his future plans. Why? It's clear all the signings last summer were 100% Rowett's - and the most egregious of the Hughes signings were pet signings - Berahino, Wimmer... He played with 2 old-fashioned centre-backs at Luton and a big target man. I think all the evidence points to them being signings he's completely happy with even if they weren't names he conjured up initially. I'm sure later in the summer we'll see names that he' come up with like Justin. Ultimately he has the final say.
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on May 21, 2019 20:57:16 GMT
You sign a L1 manager you get L1 players it is what he knows, he has proved he struggles with higher quality so resorting to what he knows, I ca see this going tits up very early next season. This is what confuses me with the likes of Vokes and Batth, there’s not a chance they’re his signings he’d never be in for this calibre of player and would have never contemplated them in his future plans. Complete bollocks.
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Post by crapslinger on May 21, 2019 20:57:44 GMT
Crapslinger and Bayern - perhaps you could go and encourage each other somewhere else Both properly depressing Depressing or realistic
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Post by drippinggoatsnob on May 21, 2019 21:00:20 GMT
Me too and I think that is dangerous. Federici is massively dodgy. As for who, no idea tbh. But putting your eggs into a League One shaped basked seems risky. You sign a L1 manager you get L1 players it is what he knows, he has proved he struggles with higher quality so resorting to what he knows, I ca see this going tits up very early next season. Because the Premier league lads served us so well didn't they....... And the ones with oodles of champ experience....
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Post by GeneralFaye on May 21, 2019 21:00:28 GMT
Some people still trotting out the same "but are these the managers signings" line.. ffs, wake up.
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