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Post by gingerninja on Jun 3, 2019 21:13:11 GMT
Could the story about Josh Windass perhaps indicate we might be looking elsewhere?
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jun 3, 2019 22:16:14 GMT
Could the story about Josh Windass perhaps indicate we might be looking elsewhere? Maybe or just a kick up Powell’s arse? Never harms to release such a story. |
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Post by middleoftheboothen on Jun 3, 2019 23:09:19 GMT
Could the story about Josh Windass perhaps indicate we might be looking elsewhere? Maybe or just a kick up Powell’s arse? Never harms to release such a story. I think this could be the reason it has been fed to the press bayern, it happens alot doesn't it and I'd much rather Powell than Windass from what I've seen of them both, admittedly limited. |
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Post by onefatcopper on Jun 3, 2019 23:20:04 GMT
32 appearances last season though, not too bad. For all we know this players attitude issues could be behind him, that's Jones' call I guess. For me I think he's a good addition and will help us become more potent and add a bit of a physical presence. 28k a week, say we paid a £2.5m fee for him which is a fairly run of the mill transfer that would mean we would be giving him 14k a week. It doesn't look to pricey if you look at it like that This has deja vu written all over it, player with questionable attitude that might be rehabilitated by Stoke. I’d prefer not to take the chance and end up bitching about another failed “gamble” at the end of the season It’s the same scenario as Fuller & Arnie, we are still bitching about these failures ? |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 4, 2019 5:06:29 GMT
Because this random poster knows the details of a contract that will never be made public I work with the dad of one of Powell's team mates at Crewe, who was told by Powell. Unless he's lying, who knows. I want to believe you, but you must appreciate all of the bullshit people try to claim is true on this forum, makes it very hard to. |
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Post by FullerMagic on Jun 5, 2019 7:38:35 GMT
Radio Stoke sports news seem to be pretty sure he's signing.
Played a little clip of an interview with Neil Baker on the sports news (who could well still speak to him?) - and he seemed to think it was done too?
"Stoke City will be getting a top player when they sign Nick Powell, that's according to the man who coached him at Crewe. He thinks Stoke will be a good move for him"
"I honestly believe if Sir Alex would have stayed at United, Nick would have developed into a real top-class player - and I really thought he'd play for England, I really did. He was that good. He can link the play, he can play people in, he can shoot and he's very decent in the air. So they have got a player that can play in any position, but I think his best position is playing off the main forward"
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Post by Gary Hackett on Jun 5, 2019 14:35:41 GMT
Radio Stoke sports news seem to be pretty sure he's signing. Played a little clip of an interview with Neil Baker on the sports news (who could well still speak to him?) - and he seemed to think it was done too? "Stoke City will be getting a top player when they sign Nick Powell, that's according to the man who coached him at Crewe. He thinks Stoke will be a good move for him" "I honestly believe if Sir Alex would have stayed at United, Nick would have developed into a real top-class player - and I really thought he'd play for England, I really did. He was that good. He can link the play, he can play people in, he can shoot and he's very decent in the air. So they have got a player that can play in any position, but I think his best position is playing off the main forward" . If Neil Baker says he's signed then he's signed. |
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Jun 5, 2019 18:31:58 GMT
Radio Stoke sports news seem to be pretty sure he's signing. Played a little clip of an interview with Neil Baker on the sports news (who could well still speak to him?) - and he seemed to think it was done too? "Stoke City will be getting a top player when they sign Nick Powell, that's according to the man who coached him at Crewe. He thinks Stoke will be a good move for him" "I honestly believe if Sir Alex would have stayed at United, Nick would have developed into a real top-class player - and I really thought he'd play for England, I really did. He was that good. He can link the play, he can play people in, he can shoot and he's very decent in the air. So they have got a player that can play in any position, but I think his best position is playing off the main forward" . If Neil Baker says he's signed then he's signed. If neil says it’s xmas it’s xmas 😉 |
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Post by stokeykez on Jun 5, 2019 21:07:07 GMT
This has deja vu written all over it, player with questionable attitude that might be rehabilitated by Stoke. I’d prefer not to take the chance and end up bitching about another failed “gamble” at the end of the season It’s the same scenario as Fuller & Arnie, we are still bitching about these failures ? At least now the clubs in a position to pick up on players who arent pulling their weight, unfortunately due to the fact weve been mugged off by so many over the last 5 years. Hoping NJ enstills a discipline in this club unlike the last 3 managers who seemed happy to let players get away with murder. |
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Post by rickyfullerbeer on Jun 5, 2019 21:18:13 GMT
I'm really excited about Powell. If he can stay fit he'll be a hell of an asset.
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Post by LankyPotter on Jun 5, 2019 22:28:18 GMT
32 appearances last season though, not too bad. For all we know this players attitude issues could be behind him, that's Jones' call I guess. For me I think he's a good addition and will help us become more potent and add a bit of a physical presence. 28k a week, say we paid a £2.5m fee for him which is a fairly run of the mill transfer that would mean we would be giving him 14k a week. It doesn't look to pricey if you look at it like that This has deja vu written all over it, player with questionable attitude that might be rehabilitated by Stoke. I’d prefer not to take the chance and end up bitching about another failed “gamble” at the end of the season I understand what you are saying because we have been burnt by players with bad attitudes like Jese, Wimmer, Berahino etc - but you can’t tar everyone with the same brush. Ricky Fuller, Arnie, Odemwingie, Pennant and possibly Abdoulaye Faye could be considered as examples of players with suspected ‘bad attitudes’. They came good and were real assets to the squad. Its the same with every player that any club has and will ever sign, its a gamble. Some players work at a specific type of club/environment/ management. I think in the case of Powell we have to just focus on what he will offer if NJ gets even 3/4 of his ability out of him. |
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Post by thevoid on Jun 5, 2019 23:20:03 GMT
Arnie = most talented football player seen in a stoke shirt for more than 25 years Hoekstra Shaq RF10 Bojan pre-injury But he's definitely in that pantheon. |
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Post by kustokie on Jun 6, 2019 0:25:06 GMT
This has deja vu written all over it, player with questionable attitude that might be rehabilitated by Stoke. I’d prefer not to take the chance and end up bitching about another failed “gamble” at the end of the season I understand what you are saying because we have been burnt by players with bad attitudes like Jese, Wimmer, Berahino etc - but you can’t tar everyone with the same brush. Ricky Fuller, Arnie, Odemwingie, Pennant and possibly Abdoulaye Faye could be considered as examples of players with suspected ‘bad attitudes’. They came good and were real assets to the squad. Its the same with every player that any club has and will ever sign, its a gamble. Some players work at a specific type of club/environment/ management. I think in the case of Powell we have to just focus on what he will offer if NJ gets even 3/4 of his ability out of him. Pennant was a petulant little prick and thick as pig shit. Very bad combination. |
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Post by PotterLog on Jun 6, 2019 3:57:25 GMT
Arnie = most talented football player seen in a stoke shirt for more than 25 years Hoekstra Shaq RF10 Bojan pre-injury But he's definitely in that pantheon. Bojan was just as talented after his injury as he was before it. Which was well ahead of any of the other players mentioned here |
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Post by berahinosgoals on Jun 6, 2019 5:12:54 GMT
I understand what you are saying because we have been burnt by players with bad attitudes like Jese, Wimmer, Berahino etc - but you can’t tar everyone with the same brush. Ricky Fuller, Arnie, Odemwingie, Pennant and possibly Abdoulaye Faye could be considered as examples of players with suspected ‘bad attitudes’. They came good and were real assets to the squad. Its the same with every player that any club has and will ever sign, its a gamble. Some players work at a specific type of club/environment/ management. I think in the case of Powell we have to just focus on what he will offer if NJ gets even 3/4 of his ability out of him. Pennant was a petulant little prick and thick as pig shit. Very bad combination. Not his biggest fan then? |
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Post by LankyPotter on Jun 6, 2019 6:16:25 GMT
I understand what you are saying because we have been burnt by players with bad attitudes like Jese, Wimmer, Berahino etc - but you can’t tar everyone with the same brush. Ricky Fuller, Arnie, Odemwingie, Pennant and possibly Abdoulaye Faye could be considered as examples of players with suspected ‘bad attitudes’. They came good and were real assets to the squad. Its the same with every player that any club has and will ever sign, its a gamble. Some players work at a specific type of club/environment/ management. I think in the case of Powell we have to just focus on what he will offer if NJ gets even 3/4 of his ability out of him. Pennant was a petulant little prick and thick as pig shit. Very bad combination. He was a good signing under TP and the first season under Sparky though tbf |
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Post by Gary Hackett on Jun 6, 2019 8:17:43 GMT
Hoekstra Shaq RF10 Bojan pre-injury But he's definitely in that pantheon. Bojan was just as talented after his injury as he was before it. Which was well ahead of any of the other players mentioned here Nonsense. |
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Post by Block 22 on Jun 6, 2019 9:19:35 GMT
Bojan was just as talented after his injury as he was before it. Which was well ahead of any of the other players mentioned here Nonsense. People need to give up with this Bojan nonsense full stop. He’s a good player, on paper. Just like last season we had the best team on paper and should have won the league. Look at what happened there. Back in the real world.. Bojan has been below average since his return from injury. The whole reason we were so uninspiring and dismal last season was because we thought a team would be competitive based on past reputations. Joe Allen, Shawcross, Bruno Martins Indi. The players that chased shadows in our last season in the Premier League. All need to be moved on. Yes, once good players. In reality, in a league where grit and determination count more than skill and elegance quite frankly they are useless. If Nick Powell came here he would be a colossal upgrade on Bojan and that would reflect in both his performances and his stats and some would still say Bojan is better because he won the champions league with Barcelona. Football is not won and lost ‘on paper’ or past reputations. Sheffield United and Norwich were fine examples, both of which built squads of hard working, team players that played for each other and didn’t pin their hopes on players that have been underperforming for season after season. We need to look at the here and now and not one player over the last two seasons has performed to a standard that I would fight tooth and nail to keep them, barring maybe Shaq, Etebo and Tom Edwards. |
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Post by jimmygscfc on Jun 6, 2019 9:24:40 GMT
Arnie = most talented football player seen in a stoke shirt for more than 25 years Hoekstra Shaq RF10 Bojan pre-injury But he's definitely in that pantheon. As much as I loved Hoekstra, he wasn't doing it in the top division was he? I think context is important here and sentiment often gets in the way. Being an old git, I can honestly say that Hudson in his pomp was the best by far, but misses the 25 year cut off by a long way. |
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Post by berahinosgoals on Jun 6, 2019 9:28:20 GMT
Hoekstra Shaq RF10 Bojan pre-injury But he's definitely in that pantheon. Bojan was just as talented after his injury as he was before it. Which was well ahead of any of the other players mentioned here 😆 that's why he's available for transfer when there is a position we are filling that supposedly fits him like a tailor made suit. Give it up, hey |
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Post by onefatcopper on Jun 6, 2019 9:34:33 GMT
Hoekstra Shaq RF10 Bojan pre-injury But he's definitely in that pantheon. Bojan was just as talented after his injury as he was before it. Which was well ahead of any of the other players mentioned here If his performances were as good post injury do you seriously think he would be plying his talents around at a Club languishing at the arse end of the EFL ? In the big picture of things I think Stoke were just a stepping stone on his way back from the wilderness. |
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Post by FullerMagic on Jun 6, 2019 9:36:36 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jun 6, 2019 10:09:34 GMT
Location has actually helped us with this one.
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Post by jimmygscfc on Jun 6, 2019 10:18:58 GMT
Location has actually helped us with this one. Until he's signed it's all conjecture...but, I hope he does sign. |
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Post by PotterLog on Jun 6, 2019 14:20:51 GMT
Bojan was just as talented after his injury as he was before it. Which was well ahead of any of the other players mentioned here 😆 that's why he's available for transfer when there is a position we are filling that supposedly fits him like a tailor made suit. Give it up, hey Give what up? The question was about talent. Bojan is the most talented footballer to play for Stoke in a very long time - I think probably ever, but no doubt the old timers would come at me for that. Anyone who thinks Arnie was more talented than Bojan is probably the kind of pervert who flogs the silly notion that Ronaldo is better than Messi 😉 |
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Post by PotterLog on Jun 6, 2019 14:21:49 GMT
Bojan was just as talented after his injury as he was before it. Which was well ahead of any of the other players mentioned here If his performances were as good post injury do you seriously think he would be plying his talents around at a Club languishing at the arse end of the EFL ? In the big picture of things I think Stoke were just a stepping stone on his way back from the wilderness. I said just as talented. Not on about performances |
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Post by ash on Jun 6, 2019 14:45:46 GMT
😆 that's why he's available for transfer when there is a position we are filling that supposedly fits him like a tailor made suit. Give it up, hey Give what up? The question was about talent. Bojan is the most talented footballer to play for Stoke in a very long time - I think probably ever, but no doubt the old timers would come at me for that. Anyone who thinks Arnie was more talented than Bojan is probably the kind of pervert who flogs the silly notion that Ronaldo is better than Messi 😉 Bojan may indeed be one of the most talented players to play for Stoke in recent years but most is a matter of opinion. As for ever he's not even top ten and I'm not particularly old! |
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Post by Block 22 on Jun 6, 2019 14:49:21 GMT
😆 that's why he's available for transfer when there is a position we are filling that supposedly fits him like a tailor made suit. Give it up, hey Give what up? The question was about talent. Bojan is the most talented footballer to play for Stoke in a very long time - I think probably ever, but no doubt the old timers would come at me for that. Anyone who thinks Arnie was more talented than Bojan is probably the kind of pervert who flogs the silly notion that Ronaldo is better than Messi 😉 We all know that you can have all the talent in the world but if you can’t apply it, it’s useless. Pretty pointless argument. Arnie influenced more games, scored more goals and consistently won us games. Is Powell more talented? No. Will he do better than Bojan has done in his last two seasons, most definitely. |
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Post by Gary Hackett on Jun 6, 2019 14:50:10 GMT
Best signing in the last 4 years
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Post by franklin66 on Jun 6, 2019 14:53:16 GMT
If his performances were as good post injury do you seriously think he would be plying his talents around at a Club languishing at the arse end of the EFL ? In the big picture of things I think Stoke were just a stepping stone on his way back from the wilderness. I said just as talented. Not on about performances Some on here would not know a footballer if he hit them between the eyes. |
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