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Post by scfcbiancorossi on Apr 13, 2019 16:29:41 GMT
Mate fair play for always trying to put a positive spin on things but you can’t blame that shit on anything other than manager tactics. Are you seriously suggesting the squad we have isn’t capable of beating Rotherham at home? Even the horror show starting xi was more than capable of winning the game. It’s fucking dog shit week in week out, I’ve tried to support Jones, massive advocate of bringing him but he’s making it as difficult as possible to support him. We’ve regressed under him. The only positive from today was that we scored, the rest was awful and his decisions were poor at best but people are expecting better results with the same shit players. Yes I'm seriously saying our squad isn't good enough, its shown today, full of plodders and no depth in important positions. Booing him now isn't whats needed, if its the same next season then fair enough, if people think booing makes a difference then go for it, now isn't the time. Agree re the booing. His post match interview is telling. He’s panicking.
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Post by boskampsflaps on Apr 13, 2019 16:30:05 GMT
Jones is now sounding like a man out of his depth on Rado Stoke Bringing up ‘fans favourite’ Bojan He is the new Rowett I haven't got it on but whats wrong with saying he's fans favourite, he is isn't it?
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Post by cobhamstokey on Apr 13, 2019 16:30:16 GMT
Young lads should playing Like who? Verlinden, Collins even Tyron. Williams is going back to Everton so what’s the point in playing him. I think if he’d gone with some youth and a bit of flair then the fans would be less restless even if we’d lost. There’s players who are playing week in week out not performing and continue to be selected. We were terrible today.
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Post by Paul Spencer on Apr 13, 2019 16:30:44 GMT
Jones is now sounding like a man out of his depth on Rado Stoke Bringing up ‘fans favourite’ Bojan He is the new Rowett Thoroughly worrying interview. Thought Nathan was better than that. He said it was a game of "two halves". Not sure which first half he witnessed, it wasn't the one the rest of us watched.
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Post by citynickscfc on Apr 13, 2019 16:30:53 GMT
He hasn't the tools to rebuild. What we needed was someone to get the most out this group, as that's what we will be stuck with next season and onwards into ffp What he needs is a summer to clear all the wasters out, then he may actually have the tools, he did it at Luton he can do it here. I don't think the two situations are in any way similar. Luton could move players on easily or let contracts run down with little consequence. Here that is not possible, not at all. We can't pay players off and we are stuck with them on very long contracts (thanks to the pizza twats)
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Post by wuzza on Apr 13, 2019 16:30:57 GMT
Well if Rowett was ridiculed for his post match interviews I fail to see the difference to anything Jones just produced. The pressure is showing.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 13, 2019 16:32:08 GMT
Ridiculous that he's getting booed, today was poor and his decision to go to 4-4-2 was a little stupid but he's hamstrug by injuries, suspensions and the god awful squad, the players didn't help him at all today either. That excuse don't stick, because he had alternatives but he was too afraid to use them. He's too afraid to think that younger hungry hopefuls might actually do better than older sedate has beens, despite the fact that he has evidence on his hand to suggest the opposite. Despite the fact that he has seen in about 20 games this season that the players he continues to pick continues to not do the business. The decision to go 442 wasn't the only bad one he made today. Playing with 4 big men can be done, if those player have the desire to do well, but ours just don't care. Taking a striker off and replacing him with no striker when you should be trying to win the game is not exactly what we should have expected in a home game. It rather suggests Jones was more afraid of losing than he was wanting to win. I said the other day that it's as if he's hellbent on thinking out of the box rather than doing what's rational and sensible. Some of his decisions today were exactly that. I need for him to show he has courage and desire to win games. I need it now, after 20 games of mostly not doing that!
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Post by cobhamstokey on Apr 13, 2019 16:33:14 GMT
The only positive from today was that we scored, the rest was awful and his decisions were poor at best but people are expecting better results with the same shit players. Yes I'm seriously saying our squad isn't good enough, its shown today, full of plodders and no depth in important positions. Booing him now isn't whats needed, if its the same next season then fair enough, if people think booing makes a difference then go for it, now isn't the time. Agree re the booing. His post match interview is telling. He’s panicking. Which causes him to play safe rather than take risks like selecting the youngsters.
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Post by Paul Spencer on Apr 13, 2019 16:33:46 GMT
Jones is now sounding like a man out of his depth on Rado Stoke Bringing up ‘fans favourite’ Bojan He is the new Rowett I haven't got it on but whats wrong with saying he's fans favourite, he is isn't it? Context. Although he didn't spell it out literally, the inference was, that he'd played the "fans favourite" Bojan and it hadn't worked.
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Post by boskampsflaps on Apr 13, 2019 16:33:51 GMT
What he needs is a summer to clear all the wasters out, then he may actually have the tools, he did it at Luton he can do it here. I don't think the two situations are in any way similar. Luton could move players on easily or let contracts run down with little consequence. Here that is not possible, not at all. We can't pay players off and we are stuck with them on very long contracts (thanks to the pizza twats) If we wanted to I think we could easily get rid of most but it would mean writing off a lot of money and letting them go for free or very close to, I think we are in a position where that needs to be seriously considered.
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Post by milky on Apr 13, 2019 16:33:51 GMT
He still gets a free hit as far as im concerned until next season.
The harsh reality though is he is likely to be saddled with a lot of these players still and he simply has to find a way of getting a tune out of them.
God knows how many transfer windows it will take to build the side he wants..and if he will be afforded the time because he cant afford too many debacles like today.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 13, 2019 16:34:19 GMT
Tymon should be playing not Indi Collins should be in front of Shawcross Tymon is shit, will never be good enough. He might have been at 18, but he's older now, and he's getting rave reviews of the Academy staff.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 13, 2019 16:34:38 GMT
Absolute imbeciles.
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Post by GeneralFaye on Apr 13, 2019 16:35:10 GMT
I hope Diouf didn't get too upset.
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Post by scfcbiancorossi on Apr 13, 2019 16:35:11 GMT
Agree re the booing. His post match interview is telling. He’s panicking. Which causes him to play safe rather than take risks like selecting the youngsters. Problem is mate playing safe is a bigger risk. He’s losing fans week after week by tactical ineptness and negative football. The Swansea performance was as bad as anything I’ve seen in years...and we’ve had some shit recently.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 13, 2019 16:35:19 GMT
Tymon should be playing not Indi Collins should be in front of Shawcross Tymon is shit, will never be good enough. Collins ive not seen enough of, but sounds good for the future. We are shit, what's your point?
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Post by boskampsflaps on Apr 13, 2019 16:35:22 GMT
I haven't got it on but whats wrong with saying he's fans favourite, he is isn't it? Context. Although he didn't spell it out literally, the inference was, that he'd played the "fans favourite" Bojan and it hadn't worked. Oh fair enough, if he's saying things like that then it is a worry.
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Post by chesterfieldstokie on Apr 13, 2019 16:35:42 GMT
Verlinden, Collins even Tyron. Williams is going back to Everton so what’s the point in playing him. I think if he’d gone with some youth and a bit of flair then the fans would be less restless even if we’d lost. There’s players who are playing week in week out not performing and continue to be selected. We were terrible today. How many times have you actually seen those play? Tymon has been shit every time hes played, Verlinden yes, but no idea about Collins, only seen him at Swansea.
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Post by chesterfieldstokie on Apr 13, 2019 16:36:17 GMT
Tymon is shit, will never be good enough. He might have been at 18, but he's older now, and he's getting rave reviews of the Academy staff. Hes played this season and been awful
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Post by Deleted on Apr 13, 2019 16:37:11 GMT
I haven't got it on but whats wrong with saying he's fans favourite, he is isn't it? Context. Although he didn't spell it out literally, the inference was, that he'd played the "fans favourite" Bojan and it hadn't worked. So, he didn't say 'Bojan is a great part of our plans', then? Sorry I haven't heard the statement.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 13, 2019 16:38:28 GMT
He might have been at 18, but he's older now, and he's getting rave reviews of the Academy staff. Hes played this season and been awful Once, for 42 minutes.
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Post by rockthecity on Apr 13, 2019 16:39:37 GMT
ANY manager who thinks it's acceptable to play a 34 year old centre half at right back, a centre half at left back, a bag of total wank on the right and a bigger bag of cock on the left deserves booing from the first minute Tony did it too lol
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Post by toppercorner on Apr 13, 2019 16:39:55 GMT
I haven't got it on but whats wrong with saying he's fans favourite, he is isn't it? Context. Although he didn't spell it out literally, the inference was, that he'd played the "fans favourite" Bojan and it hadn't worked. it was working until he took him off ..... (not a go at you btw)
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Post by chesterfieldstokie on Apr 13, 2019 16:42:28 GMT
Hes played this season and been awful Once, for 42 minutes. 6 actually in all matches
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Post by Deleted on Apr 13, 2019 16:43:55 GMT
Young lads should playing Like who? Like Tyrese fucking Campbell...
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Post by juiceandbits on Apr 13, 2019 16:44:55 GMT
Jones is now sounding like a man out of his depth on Rado Stoke Bringing up ‘fans favourite’ Bojan He is the new Rowett Was the first "fans favourite" phrase even used before Rowett came in? It's patronising and gets the fans' backs up straight away imo. The reality is we lost control when he came off the pitch even if he was pretty average today.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 13, 2019 16:44:56 GMT
Our own fans are visibly rattling our players and manager by booing a draw, however shit it was. Great support lads.
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Post by rorystowel on Apr 13, 2019 16:46:22 GMT
Context. Although he didn't spell it out literally, the inference was, that he'd played the "fans favourite" Bojan and it hadn't worked. it was working until he took him off ..... (not a go at you btw) In what universe did it “work”? Bojan contributed very little like the rest of them.
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Post by trickydicky73 on Apr 13, 2019 16:46:35 GMT
Well if Rowett was ridiculed for his post match interviews I fail to see the difference to anything Jones just produced. The pressure is showing. Dead right. Fair's fair, and I was one who wanted Rowett out.
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Post by juiceandbits on Apr 13, 2019 16:47:00 GMT
I haven't got it on but whats wrong with saying he's fans favourite, he is isn't it? Context. Although he didn't spell it out literally, the inference was, that he'd played the "fans favourite" Bojan and it hadn't worked. Exactly Paul - that's how I read it. See my earlier post about that phrase being patronising and getting fans' backs up (imo anyway). Again, the reality is we lost control of the game after his sub. Additionally, Jones saying a game or two ago that Bojan is a "wonderful" footballer reminded me of GR giving him a back-handed compliment and reluctantly playing him.
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