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Post by Staffsoatcake on Jan 23, 2020 14:26:49 GMT
We haven't had a lot to smile about these past 3 years, but seeing The Shit in the Shit, gives me a warm glow. May it continue to get even worse, please give Solskjaar an extended contract.
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Post by spitthedog on Jan 23, 2020 14:30:32 GMT
They are 5th in the League......that can't be far off what most people were expecting before the start of the season.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 23, 2020 14:36:09 GMT
United are suffering the same problem now after Ferguson retired that they did when Busby retired. There is simply no one big enough to fill his boots and meet the expectations of the fans, not even the highly successful van Gaal and Mourinho. The excellent Frank O'Farrell was undermined by player power as have been recent managers. The dressing room must seem a very cramped place with all the egos in it. It pleases me to see them in decline, but it also sickens me to read about Klopp at Liverpool demanding the FA stop FA Cup replays because of too many games for his players, with players like Shaqiri sat on the bench doing nothing. It is a delight to see a small club like Burnley turning over one of the giant clubs in the own backyard in from of their 65,000 "supporters".There certainly wasn't that many after half time if what the video's were showing was true and definitely not that many 10 minutes to go before the final whistle. Schadenfreude is alive and kicking in my household Fuck em GD
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Post by shakermaker on Jan 23, 2020 15:19:50 GMT
Love seeing them suffer. My only regret is that it didn't happen when ol' Red Nose was in charge, but it proves how much of a one-off genius the miserable sod was. If this decline continues, there'll come a time when even The Shit's glory hunting cheerleaders will tail off, as it won't be fashionable to support a club that doesn't win anything or plays nonentity teams in the Europa League. Less people around the world will buy their merchandise, and their spending power will diminish. If Man U relied purely on its core support of West Manchester, they'd probably still be a big club but more on an Everton scale.
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Post by salopstick on Jan 23, 2020 15:26:38 GMT
They are 5th in the League......that can't be far off what most people were expecting before the start of the season. Poor league this year outside of Liverpool
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Post by Deleted on Jan 23, 2020 20:31:14 GMT
The young players he has bought
The young lad from Swansea The young lad from palace ,have done well
Those who sanctioned the signings of Alexi Sanchez , Fred ,pogba and co are keeping as quiet as Tony scholes after sanctioning the signings of imbula berahino wimmer and co
He has splashed the cash on a couple of youngsters ( they have done well )
Bought in a couple of youngsters from the youth team ( they have done well )
The Tony scholes of man United are keeping quiet and hoping solskjaer will cop the blame and leave them in the clear
Any one from the potteries can tell you how this one is going to end
Bye solskjaer , you were the perfect fall guy .
And you signed a couple of good young players
Win win ! For the board .
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Jan 23, 2020 21:29:46 GMT
The young players he has bought The young lad from Swansea The young lad from palace ,have done well Those who sanctioned the signings of Alexi Sanchez , Fred ,pogba and co are keeping as quiet as Tony scholes after sanctioning the signings of imbula berahino wimmer and co He has splashed the cash on a couple of youngsters ( they have done well ) Bought in a couple of youngsters from the youth team ( they have done well ) The Tony scholes of man United are keeping quiet and hoping solskjaer will cop the blame and leave them in the clear Any one from the potteries can tell you how this one is going to end Bye solskjaer , you were the perfect fall guy . And you signed a couple of good young players Win win ! For the board . Nobody is saying they’re in the clear though. The two aren’t mutually exclusive. Woodward is shit, the Glazers are shit, Solskjaer is shit. Just like Scholes being shit doesn’t mean late era Hughes, Lambert, Rowett or Jones were fall guys. A good manager can make a hell of a difference even in limiting circumstances. Our improvement since a grown up starting managing us is testament to that.
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Post by alsagerstokie on Feb 18, 2020 18:51:29 GMT
It appears after winning away. He's asked about POGBA again after words in the media with his agent. People seem sick of this story. His agent bad mouthing Neville.
Also said if Neville is so good why are Salford not in the Premier League.
It's bloody simple and I've said it for ages. He ain't worth the meither. Keane Carragher suggested they missed out on Haaland because they didn't want to use Riola the super agent again and that sometimes you have to loose a battle to win in the long run
POGBA is a grade a twat that most definitely needs moving on in the summer. When they kick him out of the door they should say tell your twat of an agent we will never work with you again. To be honest POGBA should sack Riola. POGBA is our own Imbula.
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Post by Seymour Beaver on Feb 19, 2020 17:54:02 GMT
The young players he has bought The young lad from Swansea The young lad from palace ,have done well Those who sanctioned the signings of Alexi Sanchez , Fred ,pogba and co are keeping as quiet as Tony scholes after sanctioning the signings of imbula berahino wimmer and co He has splashed the cash on a couple of youngsters ( they have done well ) Bought in a couple of youngsters from the youth team ( they have done well ) The Tony scholes of man United are keeping quiet and hoping solskjaer will cop the blame and leave them in the clear Any one from the potteries can tell you how this one is going to end Bye solskjaer , you were the perfect fall guy . And you signed a couple of good young players Win win ! For the board . Indeed. Being objective about it there's a popular, likeable manager doing his best with an unbalanced squad of overpaid and underperforming egos. In doing so he's trying to bring through youth, and for the most part English or at least British youth. Solsjaer might not be the finest manager in the world but he's far from being the heart of the problem at United and I don't think his reputation will be damaged by the experience.
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Feb 19, 2020 18:01:47 GMT
The young players he has bought The young lad from Swansea The young lad from palace ,have done well Those who sanctioned the signings of Alexi Sanchez , Fred ,pogba and co are keeping as quiet as Tony scholes after sanctioning the signings of imbula berahino wimmer and co He has splashed the cash on a couple of youngsters ( they have done well ) Bought in a couple of youngsters from the youth team ( they have done well ) The Tony scholes of man United are keeping quiet and hoping solskjaer will cop the blame and leave them in the clear Any one from the potteries can tell you how this one is going to end Bye solskjaer , you were the perfect fall guy . And you signed a couple of good young players Win win ! For the board . Indeed. Being objective about it there's a popular, likeable manager doing his best with an unbalanced squad of overpaid and underperforming egos. In doing so he's trying to bring through youth, and for the most part English or at least British youth. Solsjaer might not be the finest manager in the world but he's far from being the heart of the problem at United and I don't think his reputation will be damaged by the experience. He is a large part of the problem though. His 'reputation' before this outside of Norway was getting Cardiff relegated. They are worse under him than they were under the last couple of managers. There are other problems but that doesn't mean he's not one of them. Unbalanced or not, that team shouldn't be losing to Watford, Burnley and Bournemouth.
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Post by Seymour Beaver on Feb 19, 2020 18:38:33 GMT
Indeed. Being objective about it there's a popular, likeable manager doing his best with an unbalanced squad of overpaid and underperforming egos. In doing so he's trying to bring through youth, and for the most part English or at least British youth. Solsjaer might not be the finest manager in the world but he's far from being the heart of the problem at United and I don't think his reputation will be damaged by the experience. He is a large part of the problem though. His 'reputation' before this outside of Norway was getting Cardiff relegated. They are worse under him than they were under the last couple of managers. There are other problems but that doesn't mean he's not one of them. Unbalanced or not, that team shouldn't be losing to Watford, Burnley and Bournemouth. He's also trying to sort a problem out that even Mourihno failed to fix (and imho contributed to). He's in his first full season and only 3 points behind 4 place Chelsea where fans are more than happy with Lampard steering a similar course. Manchester City have dropped points against Palace, Newcastle and Norwich this season but no-one is saying Guardiola is a problem. I've no doubt his services will be dispensed with at some point in the near future to deflect from Woodward and replaced with a more expensive option. Should that be Pochettino there surely will be a mighty love in with the next messiah but overlooking the fact that he's someone else who's won f**k all.
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Feb 19, 2020 19:55:28 GMT
He is a large part of the problem though. His 'reputation' before this outside of Norway was getting Cardiff relegated. They are worse under him than they were under the last couple of managers. There are other problems but that doesn't mean he's not one of them. Unbalanced or not, that team shouldn't be losing to Watford, Burnley and Bournemouth. He's also trying to sort a problem out that even Mourihno failed to fix (and imho contributed to). He's in his first full season and only 3 points behind 4 place Chelsea where fans are more than happy with Lampard steering a similar course. Manchester City have dropped points against Palace, Newcastle and Norwich this season but no-one is saying Guardiola is a problem. I've no doubt his services will be dispensed with at some point in the near future to deflect from Woodward and replaced with a more expensive option. Should that be Pochettino there surely will be a mighty love in with the next messiah but overlooking the fact that he's someone else who's won f**k all. Mourinho was part of the problem, absolutely. Solskjaer doesn't look equipped to even match his mediocre achievements there. Nobody's saying Guardiola is a problem because he's, you know, proven himself not to be with his record. Lampard has been operating under a transfer ban until recently hasn't he? That's why he's been cut more slack. Incredibly harsh on Pochettino. He turned Spurs into a regular Champions League side, improved numerous young players and led them to their best league finish for 54 years. Juande Ramos won a trophy. Suspect if you asked Spurs fans who the better manager was or who gave them better times not many would go for Juande. MP's a miles better manager than Solskjaer and they probably should've gone for him instead of Mourinho.
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Post by terryconroysmagic on Feb 19, 2020 20:57:36 GMT
He's also trying to sort a problem out that even Mourihno failed to fix (and imho contributed to). He's in his first full season and only 3 points behind 4 place Chelsea where fans are more than happy with Lampard steering a similar course. Manchester City have dropped points against Palace, Newcastle and Norwich this season but no-one is saying Guardiola is a problem. I've no doubt his services will be dispensed with at some point in the near future to deflect from Woodward and replaced with a more expensive option. Should that be Pochettino there surely will be a mighty love in with the next messiah but overlooking the fact that he's someone else who's won f**k all. Mourinho was part of the problem, absolutely. Solskjaer doesn't look equipped to even match his mediocre achievements there. Nobody's saying Guardiola is a problem because he's, you know, proven himself not to be with his record. Lampard has been operating under a transfer ban until recently hasn't he? That's why he's been cut more slack. Incredibly harsh on Pochettino. He turned Spurs into a regular Champions League side, improved numerous young players and led them to their best league finish for 54 years. Juande Ramos won a trophy. Suspect if you asked Spurs fans who the better manager was or who gave them better times not many would go for Juande. MP's a miles better manager than Solskjaer and they probably should've gone for him instead of Mourinho. Pochettino is a brilliant all round manager for me turned average players into top quality players, put a spine and fight into a team that had questionable resolve all the while playing attractive football.
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Post by JoeinOz on Feb 19, 2020 20:59:15 GMT
Solskjaer was a lazy appointment. We all said it at the time and we were all right.
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Post by alsagerstokie on Feb 19, 2020 21:33:41 GMT
Solskjaer was a lazy appointment. We all said it at the time and we were all right. So what will happen with Riola Pogba?
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Post by Seymour Beaver on Feb 20, 2020 21:36:13 GMT
He's also trying to sort a problem out that even Mourihno failed to fix (and imho contributed to). He's in his first full season and only 3 points behind 4 place Chelsea where fans are more than happy with Lampard steering a similar course. Manchester City have dropped points against Palace, Newcastle and Norwich this season but no-one is saying Guardiola is a problem. I've no doubt his services will be dispensed with at some point in the near future to deflect from Woodward and replaced with a more expensive option. Should that be Pochettino there surely will be a mighty love in with the next messiah but overlooking the fact that he's someone else who's won f**k all. Mourinho was part of the problem, absolutely. Solskjaer doesn't look equipped to even match his mediocre achievements there. Nobody's saying Guardiola is a problem because he's, you know, proven himself not to be with his record. Lampard has been operating under a transfer ban until recently hasn't he? That's why he's been cut more slack. Incredibly harsh on Pochettino. He turned Spurs into a regular Champions League side, improved numerous young players and led them to their best league finish for 54 years. Juande Ramos won a trophy. Suspect if you asked Spurs fans who the better manager was or who gave them better times not many would go for Juande. MP's a miles better manager than Solskjaer and they probably should've gone for him instead of Mourinho. Guardiola only works for clubs with the biggest budget in the league. We'll never know how he would have got on if he had been parachuted into a struggling Cardiff. However given his almost dogmatic approach to possession football, sweeper keepers and building from the back there's every possibility it would have ended in tears. I think the Chelsea transfer ban is a bit overplayed. Lampard gets cut skack because he was a playing 'Legend' - were it anyone else they would still be getting stick for being do far behind Liverpool. That said I hope he continues to be cut slack - it would be good to see an English manager given time to succeed. Most people's antipathy to Solskjaer is because they confidently predicted he would be sacked before the end of last season - and he's still there. People want to be right. Like I said - he ain't the finest manager in the world by any stretch - yet he's still in with a shout of a Champions League place and still in two cups) but until the structure at United changes any manager coming in will struggle. Pochettino would do well to avoid and take up offers elsewhere......and see how he gets on without Kane!!
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Feb 21, 2020 7:49:47 GMT
Mourinho was part of the problem, absolutely. Solskjaer doesn't look equipped to even match his mediocre achievements there. Nobody's saying Guardiola is a problem because he's, you know, proven himself not to be with his record. Lampard has been operating under a transfer ban until recently hasn't he? That's why he's been cut more slack. Incredibly harsh on Pochettino. He turned Spurs into a regular Champions League side, improved numerous young players and led them to their best league finish for 54 years. Juande Ramos won a trophy. Suspect if you asked Spurs fans who the better manager was or who gave them better times not many would go for Juande. MP's a miles better manager than Solskjaer and they probably should've gone for him instead of Mourinho. Guardiola only works for clubs with the biggest budget in the league. We'll never know how he would have got on if he had been parachuted into a struggling Cardiff. However given his almost dogmatic approach to possession football, sweeper keepers and building from the back there's every possibility it would have ended in tears. I think the Chelsea transfer ban is a bit overplayed. Lampard gets cut skack because he was a playing 'Legend' - were it anyone else they would still be getting stick for being do far behind Liverpool. That said I hope he continues to be cut slack - it would be good to see an English manager given time to succeed. Most people's antipathy to Solskjaer is because they confidently predicted he would be sacked before the end of last season - and he's still there. People want to be right. Like I said - he ain't the finest manager in the world by any stretch - yet he's still in with a shout of a Champions League place and still in two cups) but until the structure at United changes any manager coming in will struggle. Pochettino would do well to avoid and take up offers elsewhere......and see how he gets on without Kane!! Stick for Guardiola for only going to the top clubs is valid, but he pretty much revolutionises their way of playing when he goes there, he's in a different league to Solskjaer. Lampard certainly is cut slack by the media for being one of 'the golden generation' and English but the transfer ban surely offers some mitigation? The antipathy to Solskjaer is because he's not qualified for the job and he's failing at it. No other club in the league would appoint him. A good manager can still do a good job even with restraints or limitations imposed on him - which is what Pochettino did at Spurs. As far as what he might do without Kane, before he went there Kane had made a grand total of two Premier League starts. He helped develop that whole generation of Spurs players.
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Post by alsagerstokie on Dec 7, 2020 17:05:50 GMT
Pogba agent at it again. What a twat.
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Post by a on Dec 7, 2020 19:03:55 GMT
Pogba agent at it again. What a twat. Can’t believe Pogba hasn’t sacked him! Or can I? Maybe the agent Riola is acting how him And pogba want in the media? Pogbas performances have been nothing less than awful. He’s literally been worse than Shelvey or Doucoure or Wijnaldum or Holjberg for more than all combined. That certainly won’t help the dressing room. Ole is well out of his depth tho
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Post by thevoid on Dec 8, 2020 8:20:31 GMT
I'm hoping Frodo just does enough to keep his job by having streaks of form but not enough to ultimately challenge for trophies.
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Post by alsagerstokie on Dec 8, 2020 12:45:55 GMT
I'm hoping Frodo just does enough to keep his job by having streaks of form but not enough to ultimately challenge for trophies. Is that because you like him or you just like the rest of us want to see United fail. As an obvious non Man U fan. United just need to get rid of Pogba everyone knows it. You could count on one hand how many good games he has for the club. He's just not worth it. Same with Ozil at Arsenal. Arteta obviously does not trust him so get rid. get theses players who earn vast amounts off the wage bill. We were all glad when we finally got Imbula out of the club. These clubs need to do the same as the players are not good for the dressing room. Personally still think Solskjaer isn't up to job long term at United. He was given the job though so hes just doing the best he can. In all this like most I do hope they continue to win fuck all. Be nice if they could finish mid table.
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Post by GeneralFaye on Dec 8, 2020 12:58:57 GMT
I heard a stat the other day that no one has achieved more points this calendar year than Man Utd since Bruno Fernandes signed at the end of January. Properly surprised me with how often Solskjaer has seemingly been on the brink and how often I watch them play awfully.
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Post by FranktheRabbit on Dec 8, 2020 13:36:57 GMT
I'm hoping Frodo just does enough to keep his job by having streaks of form but not enough to ultimately challenge for trophies. Frodo It's been bugging me who baby face looks like and I'll never be able to picture anything else now.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 8, 2020 14:53:15 GMT
For all of their ‘problems’ they are only 3 points off third and have a game in hand. They aren’t the club they used to be and they haven’t been since Fergie left. They had an awful season for most of last year, but somehow managed to secure third, which is their second best position since 2013/2014. On top of that, they are winning the champions league group.
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Dec 8, 2020 15:03:39 GMT
For all of their ‘problems’ they are only 3 points off third and have a game in hand. They aren’t the club they used to be and they haven’t been since Fergie left. They had an awful season for most of last year, but somehow managed to secure third, which is their second best position since 2013/2014. On top of that, they are winning the champions league group. With what they've spent though, it's testament to their colossal failure that they're not the club they used to be. Part of that is the failings above the manager but OGS isn't the man to get them where they want to be. I suspect if he somehow lasts the season he won't be the manager by the start of next season.
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Post by 1982stokie on Dec 8, 2020 15:04:27 GMT
For all of their ‘problems’ they are only 3 points off third and have a game in hand. They aren’t the club they used to be and they haven’t been since Fergie left. They had an awful season for most of last year, but somehow managed to secure third, which is their second best position since 2013/2014. On top of that, they are winning the champions league group. An extraordinary large amount of strange decisions going there way seem to be keeping them in a false position. It’s almost as though the powers won’t let them fall to far
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Post by Mint Berry Barks on Dec 8, 2020 15:22:47 GMT
For all of their ‘problems’ they are only 3 points off third and have a game in hand. They aren’t the club they used to be and they haven’t been since Fergie left. They had an awful season for most of last year, but somehow managed to secure third, which is their second best position since 2013/2014. On top of that, they are winning the champions league group. Well, sort of. Themselves, PSG and Leipzeig are all tied on 9 points. If they were to lose their next game (away from home against Leipzeig) and barring a weird result where PSG lose to some shit Turkish team, they'd be knocked out of the Champ's League.
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Post by thevoid on Dec 8, 2020 15:34:45 GMT
I'm hoping Frodo just does enough to keep his job by having streaks of form but not enough to ultimately challenge for trophies. Is that because you like him or you just like the rest of us want to see United fail. As an obvious non Man U fan. United just need to get rid of Pogba everyone knows it. You could count on one hand how many good games he has for the club. He's just not worth it. Same with Ozil at Arsenal. Arteta obviously does not trust him so get rid. get theses players who earn vast amounts off the wage bill. We were all glad when we finally got Imbula out of the club. These clubs need to do the same as the players are not good for the dressing room. Personally still think Solskjaer isn't up to job long term at United. He was given the job though so hes just doing the best he can. In all this like most I do hope they continue to win fuck all. Be nice if they could finish mid table. Because I hate The Shit! Although Frodo's not unlikeable as an individual. If they sack him they could get someone like Poch. So stick with Ole I say.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 8, 2020 15:56:29 GMT
For all of their ‘problems’ they are only 3 points off third and have a game in hand. They aren’t the club they used to be and they haven’t been since Fergie left. They had an awful season for most of last year, but somehow managed to secure third, which is their second best position since 2013/2014. On top of that, they are winning the champions league group. Well, sort of. Themselves, PSG and Leipzeig are all tied on 9 points. If they were to lose their next game (away from home against Leipzeig) and barring a weird result where PSG lose to some shit Turkish team, they'd be knocked out of the Champ's League. That's fair. I am running on the assumption that they should beat Leipzig given the thrashing they handed out at Old Trafford. But nothing is over until its over and its quite possible that they head into the Europa League tonight.
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Post by alsagerstokie on Dec 8, 2020 20:11:06 GMT
Going well so far only taken Leipzig 2 mins.
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