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Post by brumstokie on Jan 22, 2020 21:49:17 GMT
Sorry Ole Gunner the job is too big for you. Cardiff Molde Man u just aint working. You leave him alone he’s doing a great job😉
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jan 22, 2020 21:54:26 GMT
They need to throw money at Poch and a new CEO.
A right mess 😂
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Post by spiderpuss on Jan 22, 2020 22:24:06 GMT
Sorry Ole Gunner the job is too big for you. Cardiff Molde Man u just aint working. You leave him alone he’s doing a great job😉 he's the golden boy. Keep him there!
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Post by Deleted on Jan 22, 2020 22:29:48 GMT
Only a point above Sheff Utd.
And just 3 above Southampton!!
And somehow still 5th as well.
Very strange league.
Hes out of his depth though.
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Post by stokeykez on Jan 22, 2020 22:48:46 GMT
Dead man walking. Poch will be in that job come summer
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Post by samstokie1 on Jan 22, 2020 22:49:10 GMT
but man city started a strong team against them (which they do against championship opposition) so the must be going places
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Post by mickstupp on Jan 22, 2020 22:51:40 GMT
He was a cheerleader appointment. Not that I particularly give a shit about Man Utd, but once the novelty of a new manager wears off the players need managing correctly and he’s clearly hopelessly out of his depth.
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Post by berahinosgoals on Jan 22, 2020 22:58:59 GMT
Dead man walking. Poch will be in that job come summer Before that at this rate, they are mad not to get rid right now, they will be kicking themselves if poch goes elsewhere
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Post by bojanwonder on Jan 22, 2020 23:08:18 GMT
Nothing makes my week more than a Stoke City win. Except a Stoke City win and a Man United loss! 👌
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Jan 22, 2020 23:12:11 GMT
Totally out of his depth just like many of his players
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Post by mrcoke on Jan 22, 2020 23:25:08 GMT
United are suffering the same problem now after Ferguson retired that they did when Busby retired.
There is simply no one big enough to fill his boots and meet the expectations of the fans, not even the highly successful van Gaal and Mourinho.
The excellent Frank O'Farrell was undermined by player power as have been recent managers. The dressing room must seem a very cramped place with all the egos in it.
It pleases me to see them in decline, but it also sickens me to read about Klopp at Liverpool demanding the FA stop FA Cup replays because of too many games for his players, with players like Shaqiri sat on the bench doing nothing.
It is a delight to see a small club like Burnley turning over one of the giant clubs in the own backyard in from of their 65,000 "supporters".
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Post by JoeinOz on Jan 22, 2020 23:43:21 GMT
United are suffering the same problem now after Ferguson retired that they did when Busby retired. There is simply no one big enough to fill his boots and meet the expectations of the fans, not even the highly successful van Gaal and Mourinho. The excellent Frank O'Farrell was undermined by player power as have been recent managers. The dressing room must seem a very cramped place with all the egos in it. It pleases me to see them in decline, but it also sickens me to read about Klopp at Liverpool demanding the FA stop FA Cup replays because of too many games for his players, with players like Shaqiri sat on the bench doing nothing. It is a delight to see a small club like Burnley turning over one of the giant clubs in the own backyard in from of their 65,000 "supporters". At the time Ferguson left there was one person big enough. And the aforementioned person desperately wanted it. Despite his protestations Moyes was Fergusons pick as his successor. And it was a monumental dud appointment. He did it because, like Ferguson, Moyes is a Glaswegian work ethic type of guy. There's form too. When he left Aberdeen he got them to appoint Ian Porterfield and that didn't work out either.
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Jan 23, 2020 7:41:16 GMT
United are suffering the same problem now after Ferguson retired that they did when Busby retired. There is simply no one big enough to fill his boots and meet the expectations of the fans, not even the highly successful van Gaal and Mourinho. The excellent Frank O'Farrell was undermined by player power as have been recent managers. The dressing room must seem a very cramped place with all the egos in it. It pleases me to see them in decline, but it also sickens me to read about Klopp at Liverpool demanding the FA stop FA Cup replays because of too many games for his players, with players like Shaqiri sat on the bench doing nothing. It is a delight to see a small club like Burnley turning over one of the giant clubs in the own backyard in from of their 65,000 "supporters". At the time Ferguson left there was one person big enough. And the aforementioned person desperately wanted it. Despite his protestations Moyes was Fergusons pick as his successor. And it was a monumental dud appointment. He did it because, like Ferguson, Moyes is a Glaswegian work ethic type of guy. There's form too. When he left Aberdeen he got them to appoint Ian Porterfield and that didn't work out either. Mourinho should never have been appointed. Not after Fergie left. Not when they actually appointed him. Absolutely the wrong fit. They should have gone for Pochettino when LVG left, and they should've waited for him rather than giving the job to OGS full time.
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Jan 23, 2020 7:42:36 GMT
United are suffering the same problem now after Ferguson retired that they did when Busby retired. There is simply no one big enough to fill his boots and meet the expectations of the fans, not even the highly successful van Gaal and Mourinho. The excellent Frank O'Farrell was undermined by player power as have been recent managers. The dressing room must seem a very cramped place with all the egos in it. It pleases me to see them in decline, but it also sickens me to read about Klopp at Liverpool demanding the FA stop FA Cup replays because of too many games for his players, with players like Shaqiri sat on the bench doing nothing. It is a delight to see a small club like Burnley turning over one of the giant clubs in the own backyard in from of their 65,000 "supporters". Again, it really isn't the fans' fault. Their expectations really weren't unreasonable. The club, like ours, has been hideously mismanaged. They appointed the wrong manager numerous times, wasted millions on inferior players and don't seem to have any kind of coherent plan. It's eerily familiar, isn't it?
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jan 23, 2020 7:57:33 GMT
Did anyone outside of the Manchester United bubble actually think Solskjaer would be a good fit? Even when he was winning there was something that wasn’t right clearly and they shouldn’t have offered him the job full time.
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Jan 23, 2020 7:58:39 GMT
Did anyone outside of the Manchester United bubble actually think Solskjaer would be a good fit? Even when he was winning there was something that wasn’t right clearly and they shouldn’t have offered him the job full time. Yeah, there was always the sense that you could've put a dog in charge after Mourinho went and they'd have got the same results because they were totally freed from him and that was the motivating factor.
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Post by mattythestokie on Jan 23, 2020 8:04:22 GMT
Did anyone outside of the Manchester United bubble actually think Solskjaer would be a good fit? Even when he was winning there was something that wasn’t right clearly and they shouldn’t have offered him the job full time. Why was something not right when they were winning? He put the United board in a position where they had to appoint him after that PSG win. 16 games, 13 wins, 1 loss. Hindsight is great. If they hadn’t of appointed him, and the new manager wasn’t doing too well, everyone would be laughing at United for not appoint Ole.
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Post by werrington on Jan 23, 2020 8:08:03 GMT
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Jan 23, 2020 8:09:24 GMT
Did anyone outside of the Manchester United bubble actually think Solskjaer would be a good fit? Even when he was winning there was something that wasn’t right clearly and they shouldn’t have offered him the job full time. Why was something not right when they were winning? He put the United board in a position where they had to appoint him after that PSG win. 16 games, 13 wins, 1 loss. Hindsight is great. If they hadn’t of appointed him, and the new manager wasn’t doing too well, everyone would be laughing at United for not appoint Ole. That did put them in a difficult position absolutely, but there was always the overwhelming feeling the form wasn't really necessarily down to him and that it wasn't sustainable long-term. He always seemed like the cheeky-chappie supply teacher who lets you bring a board game in rather than a proper manager. Nothing on his CV suggested he was a Manchester United manager.
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Post by berahinosgoals on Jan 23, 2020 8:10:04 GMT
Rio Ferdinand has had a mare of alan Hansen proportions
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jan 23, 2020 12:02:41 GMT
Did anyone outside of the Manchester United bubble actually think Solskjaer would be a good fit? Even when he was winning there was something that wasn’t right clearly and they shouldn’t have offered him the job full time. Why was something not right when they were winning? He put the United board in a position where they had to appoint him after that PSG win. 16 games, 13 wins, 1 loss. Hindsight is great. If they hadn’t of appointed him, and the new manager wasn’t doing too well, everyone would be laughing at United for not appoint Ole. Because it felt like they were being lucky. It didn't feel right. Hindsight? I said it at the time like a lot of people did.
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Post by estrangedsonoffaye on Jan 23, 2020 12:06:23 GMT
It seems a very odd decision to me, at this stage at least anyway. He's been appointed on a very small sample size of matches, in which he had admittedly greatly improved Man United's results and performances. But in the last few fixtures, he has been tactically outclassed especially by Espirito Santo in the FA Cup game at Molineux. He's not really settled on a style or a formation but has kind of jumped from system to system, which when you have players like Pogba and Rashford you can afford to do as at least initially, their innate quality will be enough. But when these systems are pinned down, they have been ruthlessly exposed first by Emery (a renowned tactician and analyst) and by Santo. For it to work in the long term, he's got to show more tactical nous moving forward. Quite happy with this.
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Post by thevoid on Jan 23, 2020 12:13:48 GMT
Liverpool and The Shit have gone full circle. The Shit are now in the position Liverpool were when they were appointing the likes of Roy Hodgson or having to play dross like El Hadji Diouf and John Flanagan whilst watching their rivals leave them behind. The circle of life.
Biggest club in the world my arse. I can just imagine Barca or Real Madrid appointing a hobbit sacked by Cardiff.....
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Post by thevoid on Jan 23, 2020 12:18:09 GMT
Only a point above Sheff Utd. And just 3 above Southampton!! And somehow still 5th as well. Very strange league. Hes out of his depth though. Southampton's turnaround is staggering, the bloke with the long name looked toast after the 9-0 defeat. Four away wins on the trot.
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Post by estrangedsonoffaye on Jan 23, 2020 12:18:57 GMT
United are suffering the same problem now after Ferguson retired that they did when Busby retired. There is simply no one big enough to fill his boots and meet the expectations of the fans, not even the highly successful van Gaal and Mourinho. The excellent Frank O'Farrell was undermined by player power as have been recent managers. The dressing room must seem a very cramped place with all the egos in it. It pleases me to see them in decline, but it also sickens me to read about Klopp at Liverpool demanding the FA stop FA Cup replays because of too many games for his players, with players like Shaqiri sat on the bench doing nothing. It is a delight to see a small club like Burnley turning over one of the giant clubs in the own backyard in from of their 65,000 "supporters". That and they're utter refusal to change the club structure and take Woodward away from transfers.
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Post by estrangedsonoffaye on Jan 23, 2020 12:20:31 GMT
Only a point above Sheff Utd. And just 3 above Southampton!! And somehow still 5th as well. Very strange league. Hes out of his depth though. Southampton's turnaround is staggering, the bloke with the long name looked toast after the 9-0 defeat. Four away wins on the trot. Hasenhuttl is a quality manager, I'm shocked it took them that long to shake out of it but he's real quality. His work at Ingolstadt and then Leipzig was commendable. Signed up as manager in a very similar situation to the one we were when we appointed Paul fucking Lambert.
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Post by thevoid on Jan 23, 2020 12:21:10 GMT
Did anyone outside of the Manchester United bubble actually think Solskjaer would be a good fit? Even when he was winning there was something that wasn’t right clearly and they shouldn’t have offered him the job full time. He got the job on the back of the win in Paris (which was daylight robbery) and a good run of fixtures against poor opposition.
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Post by alsagerstokie on Jan 23, 2020 12:21:48 GMT
Did anyone outside of the Manchester United bubble actually think Solskjaer would be a good fit? Even when he was winning there was something that wasn’t right clearly and they shouldn’t have offered him the job full time. Why was something not right when they were winning? He put the United board in a position where they had to appoint him after that PSG win. 16 games, 13 wins, 1 loss. Hindsight is great. If they hadn’t of appointed him, and the new manager wasn’t doing too well, everyone would be laughing at United for not appoint Ole. Wrong imo. The board were blinded by short term success and should have looked at the bigger picture
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Post by thevoid on Jan 23, 2020 12:25:52 GMT
Ole's a nice bloke but utterly out of his depth. He was being interviewed a few weeks ago about Pogba and said something along the lines of "his people are saying he needs an operation and so that's what he's doing." I don't think Fergie would be putting up with flannel from a player's entourage.
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Post by salopstick on Jan 23, 2020 14:11:43 GMT
The shit
My heart bleeds purple piss
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