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Post by waffles on Mar 28, 2019 16:59:42 GMT
Never trust anyone with 2 accents going on at the same time, weirdo
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Post by davejohnno1 on Mar 28, 2019 17:01:17 GMT
Blimey, why ask Carlisle? It's obvious who he means. You might not like it but you know he's referring to Southend. I was certain it was cambridge.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 28, 2019 17:10:35 GMT
I'm really not sure. A lot is going to depend on how realistic expectations are of him. Will they be happy to finish top four every year for the next 5 seasons and win a cup every now and then or is winning the league an ultimate demand, or else. I say 5 seasons, partly because that's realistic before they can form a really great team, and partly because that was of course what Fergie was given. If OGS is still able to keep OT a happy place, he might just be given that. I can’t see him getting that amount of time without having them at least looking capable of mounting a genuine title challenge. It will be interesting to see how he and the players react when the honeymoon is over. He’s got 3-4 tricky league games left including the derby - it’s not inconceivable that the narrative might look a bit different come May. If you're consistently in the top four then you are potentially capable of mounting a title challenge. Then it will up to the owners if they will back the team with investment on the same scale as the other challengers. That remains to be seen. Even the not so great Mourinho found there was a limit to the club tank, although that was probably wise on their part.
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Mar 28, 2019 17:21:42 GMT
I can’t see him getting that amount of time without having them at least looking capable of mounting a genuine title challenge. It will be interesting to see how he and the players react when the honeymoon is over. He’s got 3-4 tricky league games left including the derby - it’s not inconceivable that the narrative might look a bit different come May. If you're consistently in the top four then you are potentially capable of mounting a title challenge. Then it will up to the owners if they will back the team with investment on the same scale as the other challengers. That remains to be seen. Even the not so great Mourinho found there was a limit to the club tank, although that was probably wise on their part. There's theoretically being capable of a title challenge though and actually being right in the mix and contenders. Arsenal, for example, haven't looked like serious title contenders for years despite regularly being in the top 4. He'd have to do a Liverpool and at least be a viable contender rather than an Arsenal. Will be interesting to see if he gets the financial backing Mourinho got, agreed, and if he's left to his own devices to sign who he wants or if Woodward will pursue Galacticos for 'the brand'.
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Post by berahinosgoals on Mar 28, 2019 17:54:07 GMT
And this is why I'm getting rid of my sky subsciption. Back from work, turn on the t.v and ...boom... "solskjaer special" .. fuck off sky.
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Post by alsagerstokie on Mar 28, 2019 18:17:12 GMT
Blimey, why ask Carlisle? It's obvious who he means. You might not like it but you know he's referring to Southend. All wrong it was FC United 😆
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Post by Deleted on Mar 28, 2019 18:29:54 GMT
If you're consistently in the top four then you are potentially capable of mounting a title challenge. Then it will up to the owners if they will back the team with investment on the same scale as the other challengers. That remains to be seen. Even the not so great Mourinho found there was a limit to the club tank, although that was probably wise on their part. There's theoretically being capable of a title challenge though and actually being right in the mix and contenders. Arsenal, for example, haven't looked like serious title contenders for years despite regularly being in the top 4. He'd have to do a Liverpool and at least be a viable contender rather than an Arsenal. Will be interesting to see if he gets the financial backing Mourinho got, agreed, and if he's left to his own devices to sign who he wants or if Woodward will pursue Galacticos for 'the brand'. Looking back at his so far crowning moment, the second leg vs psg, he might be more likely to look to the Rashfords than the Sanchezs. He was not shy in introducing a couple of hitherto completely unknowns in Chang and the other one's name escapes me right now. One might say he had little choice, but other managers, not just Mou, would have sent Rojos on. It shows he has audacity and courage, whether that's enough, and whether he can indeed mount a real challenge, only time can tell for sure.
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Mar 28, 2019 18:34:02 GMT
There's theoretically being capable of a title challenge though and actually being right in the mix and contenders. Arsenal, for example, haven't looked like serious title contenders for years despite regularly being in the top 4. He'd have to do a Liverpool and at least be a viable contender rather than an Arsenal. Will be interesting to see if he gets the financial backing Mourinho got, agreed, and if he's left to his own devices to sign who he wants or if Woodward will pursue Galacticos for 'the brand'. Looking back at his so far crowning moment, the second leg vs psg, he might be more likely to look to the Rashfords than the Sanchezs. He was not shy in introducing a couple of hitherto completely unknowns in Chang and the other one's name escapes me right now. One might say he had little choice, but other managers, not just Mou, would have sent Rojos on. It shows he has audacity and courage, whether that's enough, and whether he can indeed mount a real challenge, only time can tell for sure. I agree, I think OGS will look where he can to those players. Whether Woodward can resist splurging on a Bale or someone like that is a different question. I hope they don't sign Sancho either, as he'd do better to stay where he is.
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Post by rawli on Mar 28, 2019 18:42:12 GMT
Jesus wept,all bloody day on sky sports all they have on is man u f...cling utd One of biggest clubs in the world gets a new manager. What do you expect them to cover? Charlie Adam trying to force a 2 year contract?
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Post by santy on Mar 28, 2019 19:24:35 GMT
To be fair, he could be a pretty average run of the mill manager elsewhere but it may just click for him there given the start he's managed to have.
Generally speaking, there's an awful lot of managers who are pretty bang on at keeping a good thing going. The real test of course is when things go wrong, or if you have to manage a squad through the transition of players as they get older.
If they start next season with 10 wins in 10, even if they get an absurdly easy fixture list then it could be a big season for them, if they've lost 2 before the end of September he could be gone before Christmas unless he is able to prove himself when its going badly.
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Post by FrankButcher on Mar 28, 2019 19:24:56 GMT
Mike Phelan is the man out the limelight thats done much of the work .. I suspect fergie also has had a role in it somehow too won't be surprised if he's being some sort of mentor to Solskjaer behind the scenes giving him advice etc.
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Post by thevoid on Mar 28, 2019 19:36:21 GMT
Jesus wept,all bloody day on sky sports all they have on is man u f...cling utd One of biggest clubs in the world gets a new manager. What do you expect them to cover? Charlie Adam trying to force a 2 year contract? It's not like they've appointed Pep Guardiola, they've given it to the bloke already there.
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Mar 28, 2019 19:42:27 GMT
Just to be clear I hope the cunt loses every game , they go bust , are invaded by a plague of locusts , the ground is eaten up in a tremendous unexplained self combustion and their existence is spied from the history books l and the red faced cheat is left in hell surrounded by referre pointing at their watch and forced the do interviews with the bbc for the rest of time .
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Post by alsagerstokie on Mar 28, 2019 19:45:15 GMT
Just to be clear I hope the cunt loses every game , they go bust , are invaded by a plague of locusts , the ground is eaten up in a tremendous unexplained self combustion and their existence is spied from the history books l and the red faced cheat is left in hell surrounded by referre pointing at their watch and forced the do interviews with the bbc for the rest of time . Why is Solskjaer a cunt. Know him personally do you. Apologies if you do. Ive not met him personally.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 28, 2019 19:45:44 GMT
Well said, Benjamin.
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Post by berahinosgoals on Mar 28, 2019 19:46:18 GMT
Just to be clear I hope the cunt loses every game , they go bust , are invaded by a plague of locusts , the ground is eaten up in a tremendous unexplained self combustion and their existence is spied from the history books l and the red faced cheat is left in hell surrounded by referre pointing at their watch and forced the do interviews with the bbc for the rest of time . it's a tremendous situation, they love OGS so it will be interesting if he doesn't live up to his first half seasons billing
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Post by Deleted on Mar 28, 2019 19:54:21 GMT
Looking back at his so far crowning moment, the second leg vs psg, he might be more likely to look to the Rashfords than the Sanchezs. He was not shy in introducing a couple of hitherto completely unknowns in Chang and the other one's name escapes me right now. One might say he had little choice, but other managers, not just Mou, would have sent Rojos on. It shows he has audacity and courage, whether that's enough, and whether he can indeed mount a real challenge, only time can tell for sure. I agree, I think OGS will look where he can to those players. Whether Woodward can resist splurging on a Bale or someone like that is a different question. I hope they don't sign Sancho either, as he'd do better to stay where he is. Despite having his baby face intact, now with grey hair, OGS is unlikely to accept a player that he specifically doesn't want. I don't see Woodward as a Perez type of chairman, enforcing one galactico after the other - not that I think the managers at real minded getting Fico, Zidane, Ronaldo et al. But of course Manure is big business and some folks might see it as a sign of weakness if they don't invest heavily. I think OGS will be looking more to produce and enhance the youth material which they still have some abundance of quality of. Then he'll look to bring in some one who's going to take the club to a different place, a Schmeichel, Cantona, or a Solskjær even. He'll know only too well that they don't grown on every tree, so he'll hold back until the absolutely right player is discovered or becomes available.
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Post by Scouse on Mar 28, 2019 20:06:33 GMT
Mike Phelan is the man out the limelight thats done much of the work .. I suspect fergie also has had a role in it somehow too won't be surprised if he's being some sort of mentor to Solskjaer behind the scenes giving him advice etc. Phelan was the man behind much of Fergies success too
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Post by heworksardtho on Mar 28, 2019 20:30:16 GMT
Hope he takes them down
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Post by JoeinOz on Mar 28, 2019 21:06:43 GMT
He took the job to keep the seat warm. On a wave of post Mourinho euphoria he's done really well in Europe and domestically they are playing with a swagger not seen for a long time. They were basking in a honeymoon period basking in the departure of miserable Mourinho. But now he has to have a long term plan in place. He has to explain to Pogba why he wants to keep him and why he's better off there. And haggle with the board to get Bale back from Real Madrid when he'd be the ultimate statement for Spurs. And no longer the temporary baby faced assassin the media will be more demanding. It's a different job now. You might like to see Bale in manured colours. Solskjær doesn't. I couldn't care less where Bale goes.
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Post by lordb on Mar 28, 2019 21:31:04 GMT
If he still manager there by January then he is doing well.
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Mar 28, 2019 21:47:59 GMT
I suspect fergie also has had a role in it somehow too won't be surprised if he's being some sort of mentor to Solskjaer behind the scenes giving him advice etc. Phelan was the man behind much of Fergies success too Fergie was the man behind Fergie’s success.
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Mar 29, 2019 9:52:46 GMT
Phelan was the man behind much of Fergies success too Fergie was the man behind Fergie’s success. Webb & co were the men behind that’s eras sucesss
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Mar 29, 2019 10:23:34 GMT
Fergie was the man behind Fergie’s success. Webb & co were the men behind that’s eras sucesss No they weren’t.
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Post by adi on Mar 29, 2019 13:19:58 GMT
I'm really not sure. A lot is going to depend on how realistic expectations are of him. Will they be happy to finish top four every year for the next 5 seasons and win a cup every now and then or is winning the league an ultimate demand, or else. I say 5 seasons, partly because that's realistic before they can form a really great team, and partly because that was of course what Fergie was given. If OGS is still able to keep OT a happy place, he might just be given that. Not a chance. He’ll be gone in 18 months. Why? See the past few years at OT.
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Post by marwood on Mar 29, 2019 15:07:18 GMT
I hate anyone associated with the Shit by default. Very few exeptions
Having said that, the child-faced Scando went up in my estimation the day he managed Cardiff against us a couple of seasons ago in the Prem.
It finished 1-1, with both goals coming from penalties. Arnie scored ours and chose to celebrate by running along the touchline in front of their fans. Little Ollie stood his ground in his flight path and didnt flinch, even when all 15 stone of Arnie ran straight into him. To be fair he just stepped back into position and glared at him. It was akin to the playground bully picking on the smallest kid in school.
Bet Arnie wouldnt have done that to Pulis/Rowett. Even Little Nathan -he looks a right nutter when animated
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Post by Deleted on Mar 29, 2019 19:26:41 GMT
I'm really not sure. A lot is going to depend on how realistic expectations are of him. Will they be happy to finish top four every year for the next 5 seasons and win a cup every now and then or is winning the league an ultimate demand, or else. I say 5 seasons, partly because that's realistic before they can form a really great team, and partly because that was of course what Fergie was given. If OGS is still able to keep OT a happy place, he might just be given that. Not a chance. He’ll be gone in 18 months. Why? See the past few years at OT. When you're done looking in the past, then look at the last 3½ months and tell me what they have in common with "the past few years". Now I have to admit I can't even recall what manure was like under Moyes, but under van Gaal and Mourinho they were dull and dreary. not as bad as we are at the moment, but close. Whereas life under OGS has been a joyride. No guarantees that it will continue nonstop for the next few years, but he has a whole lot more credit to his name than the other three ever did.
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Post by PotterLog on Mar 29, 2019 20:23:40 GMT
I'm really not sure. A lot is going to depend on how realistic expectations are of him. Will they be happy to finish top four every year for the next 5 seasons and win a cup every now and then or is winning the league an ultimate demand, or else. I say 5 seasons, partly because that's realistic before they can form a really great team, and partly because that was of course what Fergie was given. If OGS is still able to keep OT a happy place, he might just be given that. Five seasons?? That would undoubtedly make him one of the longest-serving managers in the league, in fact in the whole country. I bet you could get odds in the thousands of him still being there in five years.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 29, 2019 22:14:01 GMT
I'm really not sure. A lot is going to depend on how realistic expectations are of him. Will they be happy to finish top four every year for the next 5 seasons and win a cup every now and then or is winning the league an ultimate demand, or else. I say 5 seasons, partly because that's realistic before they can form a really great team, and partly because that was of course what Fergie was given. If OGS is still able to keep OT a happy place, he might just be given that. Five seasons?? That would undoubtedly make him one of the longest-serving managers in the league, in fact in the whole country. I bet you could get odds in the thousands of him still being there in five years. It's up to the owners if they will move the clocks back in order to move forward.... True, it runs against the lifespan of modern managers, but look no closer than home: Nathan Jones will need something close to that amount of years if he's going to turn this club around. It will then be up to him if he has the patience to stick around for that long, somehow I doubt. I don't know how much the sterling will be worth in a few years time, but wave enough in front of him and he is gone.
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Post by adi on Mar 29, 2019 22:32:56 GMT
Not a chance. He’ll be gone in 18 months. Why? See the past few years at OT. When you're done looking in the past, then look at the last 3½ months and tell me what they have in common with "the past few years". Now I have to admit I can't even recall what manure was like under Moyes, but under van Gaal and Mourinho they were dull and dreary. not as bad as we are at the moment, but close. Whereas life under OGS has been a joyride. No guarantees that it will continue nonstop for the next few years, but he has a whole lot more credit to his name than the other three ever did. Good point, there’s clearly nothing to be gained from studying the past...
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