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Post by steve66 on Feb 5, 2019 1:17:48 GMT
What a fecking piss take, in Rotherham alone between 4-6ooo there and seems like the majority just come here for the benefit’s and getting more than I fucking earn, they openly say we are a soft touch basically, this country is bleeding billions when we can’t look after our own! I’m not opposed to the few genuine ones who are prepared to work but overall this has got to stop, one guy able to claim benefits for his kids he left back in Romania, bloody disgusting how they are allowed to get away with it, the same guy had already been deported before and allowed back in, other families literally laughing on camera at how they get so much “help” over here, I’m fucking fuming
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Post by trentvegas on Feb 5, 2019 4:43:29 GMT
Rotherham is the ideal example of what globalisation has brought to working class towns and cities.
The cycle created by numerous politicians over the past 40 years in the North of England is nothing short of disgusting.
1. Closure of local industries
2. Re-structured welfare system
3. Open door immigration policy. where you could literally walk from Eritrea to fucking Sheffield and be entitled to benefit from a system you have paid nothing into all this whilst some poor bastard in his 60's can't retire and is footing the bill for this shit.
You wonder why Brexit happened, you wonder why people are fed up.
Roma Gypsies are fucking despised in Eastern Europe for their antics, no fucker wants them nor should they.
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Post by thevoid on Feb 5, 2019 12:02:35 GMT
The Roma are pissing off the Asian communities they're put next to in certain areas. Normacot being one example.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 5, 2019 12:19:03 GMT
Romanians? Nah, I'm sure the media told us back in the day only 12 arrived
And Nigel farage was a lying racist cunt
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Post by trickydicky73 on Feb 5, 2019 12:41:16 GMT
Rotherham is the ideal example of what globalisation has brought to working class towns and cities. The cycle created by numerous politicians over the past 40 years in the North of England is nothing short of disgusting. 1. Closure of local industries 2. Re-structured welfare system 3. Open door immigration policy. where you could literally walk from Eritrea to fucking Sheffield and be entitled to benefit from a system you have paid nothing into all this whilst some poor bastard in his 60's can't retire and is footing the bill for this shit. You wonder why Brexit happened, you wonder why people are fed up. Roma Gypsies are fucking despised in Eastern Europe for their antics, no fucker wants them nor should they. Yet politicians rarely even mention immigration in the Brexit debate now. It's all backstop, customs union etc. Let's be honest, immigration was a massive factor in Brexit happening. We can't keep letting people in, in such numbers. Housing, the NHS, schools are all struggling, yet no fucker brings up the fact that mass immigration is putting huge strains on them. It's almost a taboo subject, and anyone who brings it up is immediately called racist or bigoted. There's nothing racist about it ; it's common sense.
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Post by rickyfullerbeer on Feb 5, 2019 13:14:35 GMT
What program was this?
I worked in Rotherham for 2 years, 1 year solely with its Roma community.
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Post by trentvegas on Feb 5, 2019 13:15:37 GMT
Rotherham is the ideal example of what globalisation has brought to working class towns and cities. The cycle created by numerous politicians over the past 40 years in the North of England is nothing short of disgusting. 1. Closure of local industries 2. Re-structured welfare system 3. Open door immigration policy. where you could literally walk from Eritrea to fucking Sheffield and be entitled to benefit from a system you have paid nothing into all this whilst some poor bastard in his 60's can't retire and is footing the bill for this shit. You wonder why Brexit happened, you wonder why people are fed up. Roma Gypsies are fucking despised in Eastern Europe for their antics, no fucker wants them nor should they. Yet politicians rarely even mention immigration in the Brexit debate now. It's all backstop, customs union etc. Let's be honest, immigration was a massive factor in Brexit happening. We can't keep letting people in, in such numbers. Housing, the NHS, schools are all struggling, yet no fucker brings up the fact that mass immigration is putting huge strains on them. It's almost a taboo subject, and anyone who brings it up is immediately called racist or bigoted. There's nothing racist about it ; it's common sense. If you look at the regions with the highest Leave vote, I am pretty sure their main reasons would involve opinions some may deem racist and if not they certainly were'nt based on the agendas of the politicians and super wealthy. I think if we seriously had a vetting system for immigration in this country it would be so much more beneficial. Not for racial reasons but because we have enough scum of our own without playing host to the rest of the worlds.
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Post by rickyfullerbeer on Feb 5, 2019 13:18:03 GMT
The Roma are pissing off the Asian communities they're put next to in certain areas. Normacot being one example. Many Roma are exploited by the Asian community, in particular Asian Landlords extorting them in horrendous housing. There were also a significant number of Roma males (and females) involved in the grooming of white school girls in Rotherham although they don't seem to be mentioned in many reports. There was also a case in Rotherham when a young asian boy drowned in the canal and it's alleged he was pushed in and held under the water by 2 Roma boys leading to massive community tension.
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Post by rickyfullerbeer on Feb 5, 2019 13:22:04 GMT
Yet politicians rarely even mention immigration in the Brexit debate now. It's all backstop, customs union etc. Let's be honest, immigration was a massive factor in Brexit happening. We can't keep letting people in, in such numbers. Housing, the NHS, schools are all struggling, yet no fucker brings up the fact that mass immigration is putting huge strains on them. It's almost a taboo subject, and anyone who brings it up is immediately called racist or bigoted. There's nothing racist about it ; it's common sense. If you look at the regions with the highest Leave vote, I am pretty sure their main reasons would involve opinions some may deem racist and if not they certainly were'nt based on the agendas of the politicians and super wealthy. I think if we seriously had a vetting system for immigration in this country it would be so much more beneficial. Not for racial reasons but because we have enough scum of our own without playing host to the rest of the worlds. For me it comes down to the absolute basics of overcrowding. We simply do not have the infrastructure to support uncontrolled immigration and to allow the huge number of people into the country creates a poorer life for (nearly) all. I've never understood this argument of "the NHS couldn't run without immigrants" as though anybody is saying stop all immigration. We just have to be more selfish in selecting who can live and more importantly contribute to the country.
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Post by Eggybread on Feb 5, 2019 14:13:55 GMT
Wow someone said to me once that the people of Stoke On Trent are a friendly bunch.Why is it always the poorest educated and poorest economically towns and cities what are the most racist and look to blame immigrants for all their woes.Baffles me.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 5, 2019 14:21:45 GMT
Wow someone said to me once that the people of Stoke On Trent are a friendly bunch.Why is it always the poorest educated and poorest economically towns and cities what are the most racist and look to blame immigrants for all their woes.Baffles me. 🙄 im surprised you’re not a racist then
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Post by thevoid on Feb 5, 2019 14:22:18 GMT
Wow someone said to me once that the people of Stoke On Trent are a friendly bunch.Why is it always the poorest educated and poorest economically towns and cities what are the most racist and look to blame immigrants for all their woes.Baffles me. Probably because the people being discussed on this thread generally aren't housed in places like Shoreditch and other places that Guardian readers tend to flock to? Perhaps if they were.... Whilst you're on the subject of poor education, you omitted a question mark from your second sentence, which was a question, I believe? Are you happy with the people in the documentary receiving benefits so readily? If so, perhaps their benefits could be subsidised by contributions by you and your ilk, saying as you're so eager?
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Post by trentvegas on Feb 5, 2019 15:01:38 GMT
Wow someone said to me once that the people of Stoke On Trent are a friendly bunch.Why is it always the poorest educated and poorest economically towns and cities what are the most racist and look to blame immigrants for all their woes.Baffles me. What has anybody blamed them for? You can choose to ignore facts if you wish. I don't blame them, I blame the people that enabled this mess. Unfortunately, wherever Roma tend to reside they make a nuisance of themselves, be it in Rotherham, Stoke, Bucharest, Budapest, there is enough evidence. If you honestly believe that not agreeing with the capability of 6 billion people on this planet to come here and instantly claim a free living off its inhabitants make me racist and thick then that I must be. My eyes have been opened.
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Post by steve66 on Feb 5, 2019 17:00:38 GMT
Wow someone said to me once that the people of Stoke On Trent are a friendly bunch.Why is it always the poorest educated and poorest economically towns and cities what are the most racist and look to blame immigrants for all their woes.Baffles me. Wow wow mate, you’ve certainly missed the point, these Roma gypsies on this programme were openly bragging of how easy it is over here to get benefits & housing! They have their own guy in Rotherham who helps the ones with poor English to get the most out of OUR SYSTEM! Screwing us over basically, this is just one area of uk and just one community, how many more are there screwing this countries tax payers? Like I said in OP I have no objections whatsoever with foreigners getting work here and putting something in instead of take take take!
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Post by harryburrows on Feb 5, 2019 17:07:56 GMT
My wife's RomaniaIn and she tells me that they are hated and oppressed in Romania . They have given their country a bad name throughout Europe .
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Post by rickyfullerbeer on Feb 5, 2019 17:49:59 GMT
WHAT CHANNEL?
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Post by steve66 on Feb 5, 2019 19:05:25 GMT
What program was this? I worked in Rotherham for 2 years, 1 year solely with its Roma community. Channel 5,Monday around 23:30 hours
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Post by steve66 on Feb 5, 2019 19:14:49 GMT
Wow someone said to me once that the people of Stoke On Trent are a friendly bunch.Why is it always the poorest educated and poorest economically towns and cities what are the most racist and look to blame immigrants for all their woes.Baffles me. Will also ask you this, I retire in two years which will mean I've been paying into the tax system for FIFTY ONE YEARS, I rent my property and when I come to retire my pensions won't cover the rent, do you think the government will make up my shortfall? I can tell you it won't! So yes my blood boils when,not only these people, but others too come here for a better (paid for) lifestyle at OUR expense!
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Post by rickyfullerbeer on Feb 5, 2019 19:16:49 GMT
What program was this? I worked in Rotherham for 2 years, 1 year solely with its Roma community. Channel 5,Monday around 23:30 hours Thanks
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Post by bathstoke on Feb 5, 2019 20:01:57 GMT
My wife's RomaniaIn and she tells me that they are hated and oppressed in Romania . They have given their country a bad name throughout Europe . So it your wife’s faultXx
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Post by bathstoke on Feb 5, 2019 20:10:04 GMT
Wow someone said to me once that the people of Stoke On Trent are a friendly bunch.Why is it always the poorest educated and poorest economically towns and cities what are the most racist and look to blame immigrants for all their woes.Baffles me. Will also ask you this, I retire in two years which will mean I've been paying into the tax system for FIFTY ONE YEARS, I rent my property and when I come to retire my pensions won't cover the rent, do you think the government will make up my shortfall? I can tell you it won't! So yes my blood boils when,not only these people, but others too come here for a better (paid for) lifestyle at OUR expense! This government has been leaking billions for years in benefits. There’ll Be no money left when I retire. I will work till I drop.
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Post by trickydicky73 on Feb 5, 2019 21:07:05 GMT
Wow someone said to me once that the people of Stoke On Trent are a friendly bunch.Why is it always the poorest educated and poorest economically towns and cities what are the most racist and look to blame immigrants for all their woes.Baffles me. Bollocks.
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Post by trickydicky73 on Feb 5, 2019 21:08:26 GMT
Will also ask you this, I retire in two years which will mean I've been paying into the tax system for FIFTY ONE YEARS, I rent my property and when I come to retire my pensions won't cover the rent, do you think the government will make up my shortfall? I can tell you it won't! So yes my blood boils when,not only these people, but others too come here for a better (paid for) lifestyle at OUR expense! This government has been leaking billions for years in benefits. There’ll Be no money left when I retire. I will work till I drop. All governments have. It was like Family Fortunes when Labour were in!
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Post by trickydicky73 on Feb 5, 2019 21:10:02 GMT
My wife's RomaniaIn and she tells me that they are hated and oppressed in Romania . They have given their country a bad name throughout Europe . I have worked with Romanians who said the same.
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Post by hoffgreen on Feb 5, 2019 21:11:39 GMT
Will also ask you this, I retire in two years which will mean I've been paying into the tax system for FIFTY ONE YEARS, I rent my property and when I come to retire my pensions won't cover the rent, do you think the government will make up my shortfall? I can tell you it won't! So yes my blood boils when,not only these people, but others too come here for a better (paid for) lifestyle at OUR expense! This government has been leaking billions for years in benefits. There’ll Be no money left when I retire. I will work till I drop. Well all government's have but that isn't the point....I've worked non stop for 40yrs... national insurance payments 40yrs.... family, friends and relatives all the same....why are people from another part of the world allowed to come here and claim off the welfare state when they haven't paid a half'penny into it to begin with?. Roma gypsies, whatever.... we the British working class people have been taken for mugs and royally screwed over and the people we voted in to safeguard this nation that our father's and grandfather's built up to hand down to us to preserve and look after and nurture just as it had taken a thousand yrs before them are feeling betrayed and they wonder why brexit happened. My great grandad, grandad and dad were all bricklayers.... they literally built this country with their bare hands and fought in wars too.....
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Post by trentvegas on Feb 5, 2019 21:23:44 GMT
My wife's RomaniaIn and she tells me that they are hated and oppressed in Romania . They have given their country a bad name throughout Europe . I believe they originate from India, not 100% certain on that though.
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Post by bigjohnritchie on Feb 5, 2019 21:25:55 GMT
This government has been leaking billions for years in benefits. There’ll Be no money left when I retire. I will work till I drop. Well all government's have but that isn't the point....I've worked non stop for 40yrs... national insurance payments 40yrs.... family, friends and relatives all the same....why are people from another part of the world allowed to come here and claim off the welfare state when they haven't paid a half'penny into it to begin with?. Roma gypsies, whatever.... we the British working class people have been taken for mugs and royally screwed over and the people we voted in to safeguard this nation that our father's and grandfather's built up to hand down to us to preserve and look after and nurture just as it had taken a thousand yrs before them are feeling betrayed and they wonder why brexit happened. My great grandad, grandad and dad were all bricklayers.... they literally built this country with their bare hands and fought in wars too..... It's complete madness Hoff. Those that represent us and their families are immune from these issues and the consequences of their decisions. We've forgotten how to make decisions in our interest.... perhaps post colonial guilt in the multi cultural global world
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Post by Deleted on Feb 5, 2019 22:17:10 GMT
The Roma are pissing off the Asian communities they're put next to in certain areas. Normacot being one example. Yeah, I was told the same last week; “we’re being driven out”. All we need, these fuckers living on the doorstep. Lock up your daughters/house/car/dog.
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Post by Eggybread on Feb 6, 2019 12:30:55 GMT
Wow someone said to me once that the people of Stoke On Trent are a friendly bunch.Why is it always the poorest educated and poorest economically towns and cities what are the most racist and look to blame immigrants for all their woes.Baffles me. Will also ask you this, I retire in two years which will mean I've been paying into the tax system for FIFTY ONE YEARS, I rent my property and when I come to retire my pensions won't cover the rent, do you think the government will make up my shortfall? I can tell you it won't! So yes my blood boils when,not only these people, but others too come here for a better (paid for) lifestyle at OUR expense! So you are doing exactly what I said in my initial post blame the immigrants. Not the bankers and companies what pay no tax who take billions and billions out of the system but a Romanian sneaks a few quid here and there and all hell breaks loose.You need to direct your anger in another direction.
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Post by Eggybread on Feb 6, 2019 12:33:13 GMT
Wow someone said to me once that the people of Stoke On Trent are a friendly bunch.Why is it always the poorest educated and poorest economically towns and cities what are the most racist and look to blame immigrants for all their woes.Baffles me. What has anybody blamed them for? You can choose to ignore facts if you wish. I don't blame them, I blame the people that enabled this mess. Unfortunately, wherever Roma tend to reside they make a nuisance of themselves, be it in Rotherham, Stoke, Bucharest, Budapest, there is enough evidence. If you honestly believe that not agreeing with the capability of 6 billion people on this planet to come here and instantly claim a free living off its inhabitants make me racist and thick then that I must be. My eyes have been opened. "What has anybody blamed them for?" See Ste66 posts
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