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Post by prettything on Dec 18, 2020 10:35:42 GMT
I did .
Nothing there to overturn the amount of votes won by Biden.
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Post by scfcbiancorossi on Dec 18, 2020 11:01:46 GMT
Trump will be fine. My hope is that he sets up this new news channel to counter the lamestream elites. Anyone who thought Trump's "fraud" claim was anything other than winding up the media one last time clearly doesn't get Trump. In 2016 he beat the establishment and he beat the media. Had it not been for a postal vote he'd almost certainly have won again this year. I'd also argue his "injecting bleach" comment didn't help his cause either! That was a big moment. It's so obvious Biden and Harris are a pair of dopes and I'd happily place a wager that in four years time, after four years of total Obama esc ineffectiveness, we'll see a Republican elected once again. Lamestream elites? Jesus Christ, you’ve swallowed the whole propaganda pie by the looks of it. Obama’s “ineffectiveness” is a good one too. He inherited an absolute shit show from Bush Junior’s Republican administration and rebuilt an economy that had been burnt to the ground. His jobs growth numbers were far superior to anything that the current moron has managed, and he left the country in a far better place than he found it, despite a Republican Congress fighting tooth and nail against anything and everything because scary black man. Trump’s crowning glory has been a massive tax cut for the mega-rich and a program of deregulation that benefits massive corporations and essentially fucks everyone else - including the weak minded morons who voted him into power - but sure, carry in believing his “man of the people” crusade against the elites. What a fucking joke. Looks like you've been well and truly CNN'd 😉 The next four years of Sleepy Joe and his woke sidekick will be totally ineffective and we'll almost certainly see a Republican elected again in four years time.
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Post by RipRoaringPotter on Dec 18, 2020 11:34:47 GMT
Lamestream elites? Jesus Christ, you’ve swallowed the whole propaganda pie by the looks of it. Obama’s “ineffectiveness” is a good one too. He inherited an absolute shit show from Bush Junior’s Republican administration and rebuilt an economy that had been burnt to the ground. His jobs growth numbers were far superior to anything that the current moron has managed, and he left the country in a far better place than he found it, despite a Republican Congress fighting tooth and nail against anything and everything because scary black man. Trump’s crowning glory has been a massive tax cut for the mega-rich and a program of deregulation that benefits massive corporations and essentially fucks everyone else - including the weak minded morons who voted him into power - but sure, carry in believing his “man of the people” crusade against the elites. What a fucking joke. Looks like you've been well and truly CNN'd 😉 The next four years of Sleepy Joe and his woke sidekick will be totally ineffective and we'll almost certainly see a Republican elected again in four years time. You're still not over it are you?
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Post by scfcbiancorossi on Dec 18, 2020 11:39:21 GMT
Looks like you've been well and truly CNN'd 😉 The next four years of Sleepy Joe and his woke sidekick will be totally ineffective and we'll almost certainly see a Republican elected again in four years time. You're still not over it are you? No 😭😭
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Post by The man from Utch on Dec 18, 2020 12:21:15 GMT
Lamestream elites? Jesus Christ, you’ve swallowed the whole propaganda pie by the looks of it. Obama’s “ineffectiveness” is a good one too. He inherited an absolute shit show from Bush Junior’s Republican administration and rebuilt an economy that had been burnt to the ground. His jobs growth numbers were far superior to anything that the current moron has managed, and he left the country in a far better place than he found it, despite a Republican Congress fighting tooth and nail against anything and everything because scary black man. Trump’s crowning glory has been a massive tax cut for the mega-rich and a program of deregulation that benefits massive corporations and essentially fucks everyone else - including the weak minded morons who voted him into power - but sure, carry in believing his “man of the people” crusade against the elites. What a fucking joke. Looks like you've been well and truly CNN'd 😉 The next four years of Sleepy Joe and his woke sidekick will be totally ineffective and we'll almost certainly see a Republican elected again in four years time. Unfortunately I don't think so, if they can rig the election when they're not in power just imagine what they can do being in power.
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Post by elystokie on Dec 18, 2020 12:22:50 GMT
Lamestream elites? Jesus Christ, you’ve swallowed the whole propaganda pie by the looks of it. Obama’s “ineffectiveness” is a good one too. He inherited an absolute shit show from Bush Junior’s Republican administration and rebuilt an economy that had been burnt to the ground. His jobs growth numbers were far superior to anything that the current moron has managed, and he left the country in a far better place than he found it, despite a Republican Congress fighting tooth and nail against anything and everything because scary black man. Trump’s crowning glory has been a massive tax cut for the mega-rich and a program of deregulation that benefits massive corporations and essentially fucks everyone else - including the weak minded morons who voted him into power - but sure, carry in believing his “man of the people” crusade against the elites. What a fucking joke. Looks like you've been well and truly CNN'd 😉 The next four years of Sleepy Joe and his woke sidekick will be totally ineffective and we'll almost certainly see a Republican elected again in four years time. Why don't you just change your user name to incorporate the word "woke"? That way, should you forget to insert it into a post at any point (unlikely I know) you'll be covered
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Post by The man from Utch on Dec 18, 2020 12:26:03 GMT
I did . Nothing there to overturn the amount of votes won by Biden. So we should just ignore this kind of thing ?
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Post by scfcbiancorossi on Dec 18, 2020 12:31:19 GMT
Looks like you've been well and truly CNN'd 😉 The next four years of Sleepy Joe and his woke sidekick will be totally ineffective and we'll almost certainly see a Republican elected again in four years time. Why don't you just change your user name to incorporate the word "woke"? That way, should you forget to insert it into a post at any point (unlikely I know) you'll be covered I like it! 😊
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Post by prettything on Dec 18, 2020 13:15:12 GMT
I did . Nothing there to overturn the amount of votes won by Biden. So we should just ignore this kind of thing ? Not at all. The fact remains Trump was not cheated out of the election. He lost because people had enough of him. Too such an extent that they voted for a geriatric globalist to run the country for the next four years. That’s how poorly thought of Trump is regarded by the American electorate.
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Post by The man from Utch on Dec 18, 2020 16:33:11 GMT
So we should just ignore this kind of thing ? Not at all. The fact remains Trump was not cheated out of the election. He lost because people had enough of him. Too such an extent that they voted for a geriatric globalist to run the country for the next four years. That’s how poorly thought of Trump is regarded by the American electorate. Simply not true, that's your opinion. I do not know a single republican that decided they had had enough of Trump so they voted for Biden instead. I do know democrats that hate Trump. I know democrats that voted Clinton but this time voted Trump. Not only that, more people voted Trump this time than in 2016, what's more, the number of Latino and black votes increased for him too.... These are facts. Nothing adds up about the Biden win, he got more votes than Obama, no sitting President that gained more votes than their previous term lost an election, no party not losing seats but gained some ever lost an election, and whether you like it or not there is evidence that there was substantial fraud going on, which has not been refuted unless you think ignoring it is refuting it. For crying out loud the MSM are not even covering the Hunter Biden scandal. They put Sleepy Joe on the Colbert show to fluff him up and throw soft balls at him concerning his son rather than have him face the press. When did get a question put to him the other day about his son , he answered, thank you for the congratulations WTF. You honestly believe they voted for this guy who can't string a single sentence together never mind two ?
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Post by scfcbiancorossi on Dec 18, 2020 17:00:16 GMT
Not at all. The fact remains Trump was not cheated out of the election. He lost because people had enough of him. Too such an extent that they voted for a geriatric globalist to run the country for the next four years. That’s how poorly thought of Trump is regarded by the American electorate. Simply not true, that's your opinion. I do not know a single republican that decided they had had enough of Trump so they voted for Biden instead. I do know democrats that hate Trump. I know democrats that voted Clinton but this time voted Trump. Not only that, more people voted Trump this time than in 2016, what's more, the number of Latino and black votes increased for him too.... These are facts. Nothing adds up about the Biden win, he got more votes than Obama, no sitting President that gained more votes than their previous term lost an election, no party not losing seats but gained some ever lost an election, and whether you like it or not there is evidence that there was substantial fraud going on, which has not been refuted unless you think ignoring it is refuting it. For crying out loud the MSM are not even covering the Hunter Biden scandal. They put Sleepy Joe on the Colbert show to fluff him up and throw soft balls at him concerning his son rather than have him face the press. When did get a question put to him the other day about his son , he answered, thank you for the congratulations WTF. You honestly believe they voted for this guy who can't string a single sentence together never mind two ? The lamestream media's siding with Sleepy Joe and Clueless Kamala has been utterly surreal and deeply disturbing.
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Post by thedeadlyshart on Dec 18, 2020 20:13:27 GMT
Not at all. The fact remains Trump was not cheated out of the election. He lost because people had enough of him. Too such an extent that they voted for a geriatric globalist to run the country for the next four years. That’s how poorly thought of Trump is regarded by the American electorate. Simply not true, that's your opinion. I do not know a single republican that decided they had had enough of Trump so they voted for Biden instead. I do know democrats that hate Trump. I know democrats that voted Clinton but this time voted Trump. Not only that, more people voted Trump this time than in 2016, what's more, the number of Latino and black votes increased for him too.... These are facts. Nothing adds up about the Biden win, he got more votes than Obama, no sitting President that gained more votes than their previous term lost an election, no party not losing seats but gained some ever lost an election, and whether you like it or not there is evidence that there was substantial fraud going on, which has not been refuted unless you think ignoring it is refuting it. For crying out loud the MSM are not even covering the Hunter Biden scandal. They put Sleepy Joe on the Colbert show to fluff him up and throw soft balls at him concerning his son rather than have him face the press. When did get a question put to him the other day about his son , he answered, thank you for the congratulations WTF. You honestly believe they voted for this guy who can't string a single sentence together never mind two ? IRL I know no one who voted for Trump. Even my Republican relatives in Colorado, Texas, and Ohio voted for Biden. Donald’s a loser. Time to accept reality.
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Post by The man from Utch on Dec 18, 2020 21:01:16 GMT
Simply not true, that's your opinion. I do not know a single republican that decided they had had enough of Trump so they voted for Biden instead. I do know democrats that hate Trump. I know democrats that voted Clinton but this time voted Trump. Not only that, more people voted Trump this time than in 2016, what's more, the number of Latino and black votes increased for him too.... These are facts. Nothing adds up about the Biden win, he got more votes than Obama, no sitting President that gained more votes than their previous term lost an election, no party not losing seats but gained some ever lost an election, and whether you like it or not there is evidence that there was substantial fraud going on, which has not been refuted unless you think ignoring it is refuting it. For crying out loud the MSM are not even covering the Hunter Biden scandal. They put Sleepy Joe on the Colbert show to fluff him up and throw soft balls at him concerning his son rather than have him face the press. When did get a question put to him the other day about his son , he answered, thank you for the congratulations WTF. You honestly believe they voted for this guy who can't string a single sentence together never mind two ? IRL I know no one who voted for Trump. Even my Republican relatives in Colorado, Texas, and Ohio voted for Biden. Donald’s a loser. Time to accept reality. Of course they did, that's why Trump secured more votes for himself in 2020 than he did in 2016, because his base went out and voted for Biden this time round. The reality is, there was major irregularities, including major voter fraud that has been ignored not refuted, no ifs or buts about it. I live in a democrat stronghold of RI and do not know a single person voting against the party they are affiliated to.
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Post by RipRoaringPotter on Dec 18, 2020 21:20:19 GMT
IRL I know no one who voted for Trump. Even my Republican relatives in Colorado, Texas, and Ohio voted for Biden. Donald’s a loser. Time to accept reality. Of course they did, that's why Trump secured more votes for himself in 2020 than he did in 2016, because his base went out and voted for Biden this time round. The reality is, there was major irregularities, including major voter fraud that has been ignored not refuted, no ifs or buts about it. I live in a democrat stronghold of RI and do not know a single person voting against the party they are affiliated to. Trump and the Republicans did an awful lot to make it harder to vote in areas that are typically pro-Democrat, and they still lost. They loaded the dice, and still lost. That takes some doing.
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Post by RipRoaringPotter on Dec 18, 2020 21:21:46 GMT
Simply not true, that's your opinion. I do not know a single republican that decided they had had enough of Trump so they voted for Biden instead. I do know democrats that hate Trump. I know democrats that voted Clinton but this time voted Trump. Not only that, more people voted Trump this time than in 2016, what's more, the number of Latino and black votes increased for him too.... These are facts. Nothing adds up about the Biden win, he got more votes than Obama, no sitting President that gained more votes than their previous term lost an election, no party not losing seats but gained some ever lost an election, and whether you like it or not there is evidence that there was substantial fraud going on, which has not been refuted unless you think ignoring it is refuting it. For crying out loud the MSM are not even covering the Hunter Biden scandal. They put Sleepy Joe on the Colbert show to fluff him up and throw soft balls at him concerning his son rather than have him face the press. When did get a question put to him the other day about his son , he answered, thank you for the congratulations WTF. You honestly believe they voted for this guy who can't string a single sentence together never mind two ? The lamestream media's siding with Sleepy Joe and Clueless Kamala has been utterly surreal and deeply disturbing. Donald Trump can't string one sentence together. Biden is ten times the speaker that Trump is, and Biden isn't a very good speaker.
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Post by The man from Utch on Dec 18, 2020 21:25:22 GMT
Of course they did, that's why Trump secured more votes for himself in 2020 than he did in 2016, because his base went out and voted for Biden this time round. The reality is, there was major irregularities, including major voter fraud that has been ignored not refuted, no ifs or buts about it. I live in a democrat stronghold of RI and do not know a single person voting against the party they are affiliated to. Trump and the Republicans did an awful lot to make it harder to vote in areas that are typically pro-Democrat, and they still lost. They loaded the dice, and still lost. That takes some doing. Can you show me where you are getting that idea from.
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Post by prettything on Dec 18, 2020 21:52:20 GMT
Not at all. The fact remains Trump was not cheated out of the election. He lost because people had enough of him. Too such an extent that they voted for a geriatric globalist to run the country for the next four years. That’s how poorly thought of Trump is regarded by the American electorate. Simply not true, that's your opinion. I do not know a single republican that decided they had had enough of Trump so they voted for Biden instead. I do know democrats that hate Trump. I know democrats that voted Clinton but this time voted Trump. Not only that, more people voted Trump this time than in 2016, what's more, the number of Latino and black votes increased for him too.... These are facts. Nothing adds up about the Biden win, he got more votes than Obama, no sitting President that gained more votes than their previous term lost an election, no party not losing seats but gained some ever lost an election, and whether you like it or not there is evidence that there was substantial fraud going on, which has not been refuted unless you think ignoring it is refuting it. For crying out loud the MSM are not even covering the Hunter Biden scandal. They put Sleepy Joe on the Colbert show to fluff him up and throw soft balls at him concerning his son rather than have him face the press. When did get a question put to him the other day about his son , he answered, thank you for the congratulations WTF. You honestly believe they voted for this guy who can't string a single sentence together never mind two ? Ok, where to start. I don’t know where you live at present,but Biden won in the swing states. As you say, his key base, and in the Republican, or Democrat states, will always be partisan to their historically elected party. Biden won by 7 million votes, overall. No matter what irregularities that may have gone on, the margin can not be fraudulently taken advantage of, on such a scale. Unless of course there were Venezuelan counting machines being used, which was outlandishly claimed by one of Trumps lawyers, a few weeks ago. The lady in question was effectively fired, three days later. Trump did do better with Latino and black votes, but still overwhelmingly voted in favour for Biden. The white vote decreased for Trump, however. Bidens son is/was a drug addict. It was simply mud throwing from the Trump team. However, nothing surprises me in politics. They saw an angle, and played on it. It was distasteful, but both sides would make that play. As for “soft balls” thrown. I agree with you. Biden has CNN and Trump has Fox News. For the record, I don’t watch either of them. I prefer to get my information from books, and if I read the news, I watch both the left and the right, but prefer to read authors such as Noam Chomsky, to get a better understanding of the world. Trump had it hard from the media, during the last four years. But he didn’t help himself. He proved to be under qualified for the job. He spoke poorly, lacked detail in his public speaking, and oversaw one of the worst responses to one of the worst health emergencies,the world has seen in the last 100 years. Instead of uniting the country, he divided it, and never relented in his constant obsession in appealing to his base voters. I’m not a Republican or Democrat supporter. I don’t hail Obama as the saint he has been portrayed, as. I like to call it how it is.
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Post by prettything on Dec 18, 2020 22:08:38 GMT
Simply not true, that's your opinion. I do not know a single republican that decided they had had enough of Trump so they voted for Biden instead. I do know democrats that hate Trump. I know democrats that voted Clinton but this time voted Trump. Not only that, more people voted Trump this time than in 2016, what's more, the number of Latino and black votes increased for him too.... These are facts. Nothing adds up about the Biden win, he got more votes than Obama, no sitting President that gained more votes than their previous term lost an election, no party not losing seats but gained some ever lost an election, and whether you like it or not there is evidence that there was substantial fraud going on, which has not been refuted unless you think ignoring it is refuting it. For crying out loud the MSM are not even covering the Hunter Biden scandal. They put Sleepy Joe on the Colbert show to fluff him up and throw soft balls at him concerning his son rather than have him face the press. When did get a question put to him the other day about his son , he answered, thank you for the congratulations WTF. You honestly believe they voted for this guy who can't string a single sentence together never mind two ? The lamestream media's siding with Sleepy Joe and Clueless Kamala has been utterly surreal and deeply disturbing. Mate, cut it out with this “lame stream media” stuff, it doesn’t do you any favours. Repeating Trumps rhetoric, isn’t the way forward when debating with others, with different views. It makes you sound partisan, with no willingness to digest or find reason with alternative opinion.
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Post by Rednwhitenblue on Dec 18, 2020 22:41:19 GMT
Simply not true, that's your opinion. I do not know a single republican that decided they had had enough of Trump so they voted for Biden instead. I do know democrats that hate Trump. I know democrats that voted Clinton but this time voted Trump. Not only that, more people voted Trump this time than in 2016, what's more, the number of Latino and black votes increased for him too.... These are facts. Nothing adds up about the Biden win, he got more votes than Obama, no sitting President that gained more votes than their previous term lost an election, no party not losing seats but gained some ever lost an election, and whether you like it or not there is evidence that there was substantial fraud going on, which has not been refuted unless you think ignoring it is refuting it. For crying out loud the MSM are not even covering the Hunter Biden scandal. They put Sleepy Joe on the Colbert show to fluff him up and throw soft balls at him concerning his son rather than have him face the press. When did get a question put to him the other day about his son , he answered, thank you for the congratulations WTF. You honestly believe they voted for this guy who can't string a single sentence together never mind two ? Ok, where to start. I don’t know where you live at present,but Biden won in the swing states. As you say, his key base, and in the Republican, or Democrat states, will always be partisan to their historically elected party. Biden won by 7 million votes, overall. No matter what irregularities that may have gone on, the margin can not be fraudulently taken advantage of, on such a scale. Unless of course there were Venezuelan counting machines being used, which was outlandishly claimed by one of Trumps lawyers, a few weeks ago. The lady in question was effectively fired, three days later. Trump did do better with Latino and black votes, but still overwhelmingly voted in favour for Biden. The white vote decreased for Trump, however. Bidens son is/was a drug addict. It was simply mud throwing from the Trump team. However, nothing surprises me in politics. They saw an angle, and played on it. It was distasteful, but both sides would make that play. As for “soft balls” thrown. I agree with you. Biden has CNN and Trump has Fox News. For the record, I don’t watch either of them. I prefer to get my information from books, and if I read the news, I watch both the left and the right, but prefer to read authors such as Noam Chomsky, to get a better understanding of the world. Trump had it hard from the media, during the last four years. But he didn’t help himself. He proved to be under qualified for the job. He spoke poorly, lacked detail in his public speaking, and oversaw one of the worst responses to one of the worst health emergencies,the world has seen in the last 100 years. Instead of uniting the country, he divided it, and never relented in his constant obsession in appealing to his base voters. I’m not a Republican or Democrat supporter. I don’t hail Obama as the saint he has been portrayed as. I like to call it how it is. Excellent post. A voice of reason amongst the silliness of the ongoing Trump nonsense.
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Post by Rednwhitenblue on Dec 18, 2020 22:42:40 GMT
The lamestream media's siding with Sleepy Joe and Clueless Kamala has been utterly surreal and deeply disturbing. Mate, cut it out with this “lame stream media” stuff, it doesn’t do you any favours. Repeating Trumps rhetoric, isn’t the way forward when debating with others, with different views. It makes you sound partisan, with no willingness to digest or find reason with alternative opinion. Agree. The whole MSM and lamestream media stuff is just one step up from your average conspiracy nut.
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Post by scfcbiancorossi on Dec 18, 2020 23:06:34 GMT
The lamestream media's siding with Sleepy Joe and Clueless Kamala has been utterly surreal and deeply disturbing. Mate, cut it out with this “lame stream media” stuff, it doesn’t do you any favours. Repeating Trumps rhetoric, isn’t the way forward when debating with others, with different views. It makes you sound partisan, with no willingness to digest or find reason with alternative opinion. With respect, you're hardly in a position to call other posters partisan. You're about as predictable as any poster on the entire message board. You hate Trump, you hate Brexit, you hate the Tory party, you cite the guardian, you counter criticism of grooming gangs. Hardly doing yourself any favours in your preaching of open mindedness and a willingness to consider alternative opinion 😂
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Post by prettything on Dec 18, 2020 23:31:53 GMT
Mate, cut it out with this “lame stream media” stuff, it doesn’t do you any favours. Repeating Trumps rhetoric, isn’t the way forward when debating with others, with different views. It makes you sound partisan, with no willingness to digest or find reason with alternative opinion. With respect, you're hardly in a position to call other posters partisan. You're about as predictable as any poster on the entire message board. You hate Trump, you hate Brexit, you hate the Tory party, you cite the guardian, you counter criticism of grooming gangs. Hardly doing yourself any favours in your preaching of open mindedness and a willingness to consider alternative opinion 😂 I hardly post on here, so I’m not sure how you came to that view. I don’t hate Trump. Never have . Hate is not a word I ever use. Feel free to go through my posting history where I have used such language. Be my guest. I don’t hate the Tory party . I have voted for them twice in my life. I greatly appreciate the Furlough scheme which has tided me over this past 9 months or so. I disagree entirely how hospitality is being destroyed, with the Tier system. Leaving everything open, but closing an industry that has only a 3 percent infection rate, is madness to me, and is being used as virtue signalling, whilst destroying lively hoods at the same time. I voted remain . Because of the implications for the economy. My best mate voted leave, on the grounds of sovereignty. Which I respect. I counter arguments on grooming gangs, because the whole thread ignores the biggest grooming gang in the world . The Catholic Church . Please feel free to debate what I have said in the past . I welcome it. I believe I am open minded, listen, digest, and have always shown willingness to hear an opposing view. Back to the point. Cut the “Sleepy Joe” stuff out. It’s rhetoric used by Trump. If you want to criticise opposing politicians, at least be original.
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Post by scfcbiancorossi on Dec 19, 2020 0:02:47 GMT
With respect, you're hardly in a position to call other posters partisan. You're about as predictable as any poster on the entire message board. You hate Trump, you hate Brexit, you hate the Tory party, you cite the guardian, you counter criticism of grooming gangs. Hardly doing yourself any favours in your preaching of open mindedness and a willingness to consider alternative opinion 😂 I hardly post on here, so I’m not sure how you came to that view. I don’t hate Trump. Never have . Hate is not a word I ever use. Feel free to go through my posting history where I have used such language. Be my guest. I don’t hate the Tory party . I have voted for them twice in my life. I greatly appreciate the Furlough scheme which has tided me over this past 9 months or so. I disagree entirely how hospitality is being destroyed, with the Tier system. Leaving everything open, but closing an industry that has only a 3 percent infection rate, is madness to me, and is being used as virtue signalling, whilst destroying lively hoods at the same time. I voted remain . Because of the implications for the economy. My best mate voted leave, on the grounds of sovereignty. Which I respect. I counter arguments on grooming gangs, because the whole thread ignores the biggest grooming gang in the world . The Catholic Church . Please feel free to debate what I have said in the past . I welcome it. I believe I am open minded, listen, digest, and have always shown willingness to hear an opposing view. Back to the point. Cut the “Sleepy Joe” stuff out. It’s rhetoric used by Trump. If you want to criticise opposing politicians, at least be original. Whether its rhetoric used by Trump, Fox News, Republicans or The Express, who cares. Ultimately it's very fitting of an incredibly old, forgetful leader who has served the US for decades and proven largely ineffective. Give it four years and he'll be out, possibly sooner.
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Post by prettything on Dec 19, 2020 0:20:15 GMT
I hardly post on here, so I’m not sure how you came to that view. I don’t hate Trump. Never have . Hate is not a word I ever use. Feel free to go through my posting history where I have used such language. Be my guest. I don’t hate the Tory party . I have voted for them twice in my life. I greatly appreciate the Furlough scheme which has tided me over this past 9 months or so. I disagree entirely how hospitality is being destroyed, with the Tier system. Leaving everything open, but closing an industry that has only a 3 percent infection rate, is madness to me, and is being used as virtue signalling, whilst destroying lively hoods at the same time. I voted remain . Because of the implications for the economy. My best mate voted leave, on the grounds of sovereignty. Which I respect. I counter arguments on grooming gangs, because the whole thread ignores the biggest grooming gang in the world . The Catholic Church . Please feel free to debate what I have said in the past . I welcome it. I believe I am open minded, listen, digest, and have always shown willingness to hear an opposing view. Back to the point. Cut the “Sleepy Joe” stuff out. It’s rhetoric used by Trump. If you want to criticise opposing politicians, at least be original. Whether its rhetoric used by Trump, Fox News, Republicans or The Express, who cares. Ultimately it's very fitting of an incredibly old, forgetful leader who has served the US for decades and proven largely ineffective. Give it four years and he'll be out, possibly sooner. You can use whatever rhetoric you want. However, by doing so will diminish the argument you are trying to get across, before you even start. You might be right with your last point. The fact remains, this “old, incredibly, forgetful leader”, was still chosen by the American electorate, despite, all of the detriments you have listed. That says a lot in regards to the legacy and evaluation of where Trump sits with the overall opinion of the American people.
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Post by thedeadlyshart on Dec 19, 2020 0:31:49 GMT
IRL I know no one who voted for Trump. Even my Republican relatives in Colorado, Texas, and Ohio voted for Biden. Donald’s a loser. Time to accept reality. Of course they did, that's why Trump secured more votes for himself in 2020 than he did in 2016, because his base went out and voted for Biden this time round. The reality is, there was major irregularities, including major voter fraud that has been ignored not refuted, no ifs or buts about it. I live in a democrat stronghold of RI and do not know a single person voting against the party they are affiliated to. I thought you knew Democrats that voted for Clinton that voted for Trump this time? So which one is the lie?
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Post by RipRoaringPotter on Dec 19, 2020 0:40:05 GMT
Trump and the Republicans did an awful lot to make it harder to vote in areas that are typically pro-Democrat, and they still lost. They loaded the dice, and still lost. That takes some doing. Can you show me where you are getting that idea from. This for starters:
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Post by The man from Utch on Dec 19, 2020 1:52:01 GMT
Can you show me where you are getting that idea from. This for starters: lol John Oliver ? He should stick to being funny, that's is speciality.
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Post by The man from Utch on Dec 19, 2020 1:54:03 GMT
Of course they did, that's why Trump secured more votes for himself in 2020 than he did in 2016, because his base went out and voted for Biden this time round. The reality is, there was major irregularities, including major voter fraud that has been ignored not refuted, no ifs or buts about it. I live in a democrat stronghold of RI and do not know a single person voting against the party they are affiliated to. I thought you knew Democrats that voted for Clinton that voted for Trump this time? So which one is the lie? What are you talking about ?
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Post by The man from Utch on Dec 19, 2020 2:18:06 GMT
The lamestream media's siding with Sleepy Joe and Clueless Kamala has been utterly surreal and deeply disturbing. Mate, cut it out with this “lame stream media” stuff, it doesn’t do you any favours. Repeating Trumps rhetoric, isn’t the way forward when debating with others, with different views. It makes you sound partisan, with no willingness to digest or find reason with alternative opinion. No pretty thing, I am not using Trump rhetoric. I am an independent at heart that believes the only decent republican presidents of recent years to be Reagan and Trump, I hate to admit it, Clinton was a good president too, although he along with Hillary are corrupt to the core. I also believe the republican party for the best part like the Democrat party is self serving and in the same swamp.
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Post by StatesideStokie on Dec 19, 2020 13:24:51 GMT
Lamestream elites? Jesus Christ, you’ve swallowed the whole propaganda pie by the looks of it. Obama’s “ineffectiveness” is a good one too. He inherited an absolute shit show from Bush Junior’s Republican administration and rebuilt an economy that had been burnt to the ground. His jobs growth numbers were far superior to anything that the current moron has managed, and he left the country in a far better place than he found it, despite a Republican Congress fighting tooth and nail against anything and everything because scary black man. Trump’s crowning glory has been a massive tax cut for the mega-rich and a program of deregulation that benefits massive corporations and essentially fucks everyone else - including the weak minded morons who voted him into power - but sure, carry in believing his “man of the people” crusade against the elites. What a fucking joke. Looks like you've been well and truly CNN'd 😉 The next four years of Sleepy Joe and his woke sidekick will be totally ineffective and we'll almost certainly see a Republican elected again in four years time. Mate, there is nothing in my post that isn’t a cold, hard fact. You can echo Trump’s talking points scream and scream about the media all you like, but facts are still facts. You’ve swallowed all the propaganda like a weak-minded minion. They literally targeted people like you because you’re weak. It’s sad.
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