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Post by The man from Utch on Nov 21, 2020 9:34:05 GMT
I was talking about the liberal media that ruthlessly goes after anyone associated with Trump, not what he supposedly Brought on himself. It sounds very much too that the BBC is very much left leaning. I get what you said. It’s not the liberal media who are after him, even Fox News have turned on him. However, to assume CNN or any other media outlets are “ liberal” is totally missing the point. The only US media outlets in the USA who are liberal, are probably The Washington Post? They are all 100% liberal without a shadow of doubt, that is a well known fact and disputed by no one over here.
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Post by ColonelMustard on Nov 21, 2020 18:25:52 GMT
Being nominated for the Supreme Court and being paid as a lawyer to support Trump are nowhere near each other in terms of national significance. I agree 100% but the liberal media does not understand that, if you are associated with Trump they leave no stone unturned in going after you. I personally do believe DC is the swamp Trump calls it, and to drain it there would be virtually no democrats or republicans left in it. The media is even worse. I agree it is a swamp and the networks have all been partisan. And the Dems underestimate how sick of this people are. Even half of Bidens voters would rather vote Bernie and only supported Biden to out Trump. But they continue to marginalise fresh thinking and let the networks toss them off. As naturally more a Bernie supporter it has been fascinating to watch an ego like Trump take on all the interests Bernie would have had against him. And get more results than Bernie's compromises would have to be honest. And the Republicans saw which way the wind was blowing and fell in behind Trump, Bernie would have had to fight the Dems too.
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Post by RichieBarkerOut! on Nov 23, 2020 6:56:35 GMT
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Post by The man from Utch on Nov 23, 2020 16:13:37 GMT
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Post by sorethumbs on Nov 24, 2020 11:07:13 GMT
Apperently this is to split the cases. Trumps team persuing the evidence as a civil matter, Powells case is looking at the criminal elements. This election is far from over and there are going to be a lot of red faces - angry ones and embarrassed ones. Nobody can say that there has been zero fraud in the election. MSM keeps quoting Trumps claims and adding 'without providing any evidence', evidence doesn't have to be given to the media. Seems the lawyers want the cases kicked out of the smaller courts so that they can get them dealt with by the SCOTUS. I'd rather let the lawyers carry out due process before claiming Biden as president elect
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Post by prettything on Nov 24, 2020 11:12:03 GMT
Apperently this is to split the cases. Trumps team persuing the evidence as a civil matter, Powells case is looking at the criminal elements. This election is far from over and there are going to be a lot of red faces - angry ones and embarrassed ones. Nobody can say that there has been zero fraud in the election. MSM keeps quoting Trumps claims and adding 'without providing any evidence', evidence doesn't have to be given to the media. Seems the lawyers want the cases kicked out of the smaller courts so that they can get them dealt with by the SCOTUS. I'd rather let the lawyers carry out due process before claiming Biden as president elect Powell has in effect been fired . All the cases presented by Trumps team have been dismissed. The transfer of power in the US started yesterday,led by an agency represented by Trump. There is no MSM conspiracy. The election is over.
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Post by RichieBarkerOut! on Nov 24, 2020 11:19:25 GMT
Apperently this is to split the cases. Trumps team persuing the evidence as a civil matter, Powells case is looking at the criminal elements. This election is far from over and there are going to be a lot of red faces - angry ones and embarrassed ones. Nobody can say that there has been zero fraud in the election. MSM keeps quoting Trumps claims and adding 'without providing any evidence', evidence doesn't have to be given to the media. Seems the lawyers want the cases kicked out of the smaller courts so that they can get them dealt with by the SCOTUS. I'd rather let the lawyers carry out due process before claiming Biden as president elect I think anyone that argues against due process is a bit of an idiot and that the legal system should be allowed to hear the cases being made. To date, the Trump team have not provided any evidence that is capable of challenging the result in any state, and as such it's reasonable to believe that Trump lost, and a transition process be allowed to begin (as it has today). What Trump has done so far is amplify the types of wrongdoing that happens in every election in every country and make it sound like a far bigger issue than it is in reality.
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Post by noustie on Nov 24, 2020 13:03:24 GMT
Liberal media? They have gone after him. But he hasn’t helped himself. His handling of Corona, his rhetoric towards anybody opposing him (“go back to your own country”), his tax returns that revealed that he only paid 700 dollars in tax, last year, his refusal to comment on the torch carrying, far right racists, his twisting of the American constitution . I could go on. The only swamp that has been drained, are those of his own group, that have been sent to prison. I was talking about the liberal media that ruthlessly goes after anyone associated with Trump, not what he supposedly Brought on himself. It sounds very much too that the BBC is very much left leaning. Given the reshaping of the BBC under Boris's reign there is absolutely no way it can be accused of left-wing bias going forward. David Clementi is non-exec Chairman of the Unity Trust, May's 'preferred candidate, and was directly involved in appointing Tim Davie as Director General - Tim Davie is as synonymous for favouring the left wing as David Beckham! In all the Tories picks of the make up of the board total 11 or 12 out of 14 with only two chosen by the BBC (which will now be in the hands of Davie anyway).
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Post by eddyclamp on Nov 24, 2020 13:09:53 GMT
I found it surprising that Trump actually got into the Whitehouse .I found it even more surprising that so many Americans voted for him to stay in. I`m just glad I don`t live there.
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Post by noustie on Nov 24, 2020 13:13:06 GMT
Apperently this is to split the cases. Trumps team persuing the evidence as a civil matter, Powells case is looking at the criminal elements. This election is far from over and there are going to be a lot of red faces - angry ones and embarrassed ones. Nobody can say that there has been zero fraud in the election. MSM keeps quoting Trumps claims and adding 'without providing any evidence', evidence doesn't have to be given to the media. Seems the lawyers want the cases kicked out of the smaller courts so that they can get them dealt with by the SCOTUS. I'd rather let the lawyers carry out due process before claiming Biden as president elect I think anyone that argues against due process is a bit of an idiot and that the legal system should be allowed to hear the cases being made. To date, the Trump team have not provided any evidence that is capable of challenging the result in any state, and as such it's reasonable to believe that Trump lost, and a transition process be allowed to begin (as it has today). What Trump has done so far is amplify the types of wrongdoing that happens in every election in every country and make it sound like a far bigger issue than it is in reality. The Pennsylvania judge, Republican, called their case a 'Frankenstein Monster' and chucked it out before Trump's team claimed it as a victory because they can take it to the Supreme Court. This one is an absolute belter: Essentially he's milking his supporters via the fighting fund where in the small print c.60% is going to pay his election debt.
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Post by sorethumbs on Nov 24, 2020 14:16:03 GMT
Essentially he's milking his supporters via the fighting fund where in the small print c.60% is going to pay his election debt. In a similar way that Biden has asked for donations, with the small print on Biden's saying that 75% goes to the DNC - essentially the campaign fund In response to the others above I'll just repeat what I've said - there will be red faces.
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Post by prettything on Nov 24, 2020 15:19:35 GMT
Essentially he's milking his supporters via the fighting fund where in the small print c.60% is going to pay his election debt. In a similar way that Biden has asked for donations, with the small print on Biden's saying that 75% goes to the DNC - essentially the campaign fund In response to the others above I'll just repeat what I've said - there will be red faces. Biden will be the next President.
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Post by The man from Utch on Nov 24, 2020 17:24:18 GMT
I found it surprising that Trump actually got into the Whitehouse .I found it even more surprising that so many Americans voted for him to stay in. I`m just glad I don`t live there. Eddy, what is it about the state of the USA other than the lawlessness in Democrat run cities that would make you say you are glad you don't live over here? This country until the Corona virus was enjoying its best period in decades. I've lived over here for a little over 20 years and have never witnessed such a good economy.
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Post by noustie on Nov 24, 2020 17:35:41 GMT
Essentially he's milking his supporters via the fighting fund where in the small print c.60% is going to pay his election debt. In a similar way that Biden has asked for donations, with the small print on Biden's saying that 75% goes to the DNC - essentially the campaign fund In response to the others above I'll just repeat what I've said - there will be red faces. There's a bit of a difference though where folk donating to Biden know the money is going to the campaign and folk getting emailed hourly to donate to a legal expense fund where barely any of it will be used for that. A donation of USD5k or under will result in the legal expense fund getting exactly zero dollars: www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-election-trump-fundraising-insigh-idUSKBN27R309 But the disclosure language changed after Trump’s campaign treasurer, Bradley Crate, incorporated the Save America political action committee on Monday. Crate did not reply to requests for comment. Unlike campaign funds, which have tight controls on how they can be spent, leadership PACs such as Save America carry few restrictions. Republicans and Democrats alike have drawn criticism for using them to pay family members and to fund luxury events in exotic locations. A 2018 report by the Campaign Legal Center and Issue One, two groups that advocate campaign finance reform, said some leadership PACs have been used as vehicles to “subsidize lavish lifestyles” of politicians “on their donors’ dimes.”If it turns out that an election attested as the safest ever by Republican's responsible for the count of various States; that was overseen by a Republican around the postal service and; with a judiciary heavily loaded top to bottom with Republicans over the last four years has been compromised by a Venezuelan communist plot that changes votes within the vote counting software that the Republicans were leading pre-postal vote count I'll paint my face and arse red and whistle Dixie through Kidsgrove.
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Post by sheikhmomo on Nov 24, 2020 17:43:44 GMT
I found it surprising that Trump actually got into the Whitehouse .I found it even more surprising that so many Americans voted for him to stay in. I`m just glad I don`t live there. I've lived over here for a little over 20 years and have never witnessed such a good economy. On the back of workers rights being eroded to an all time low, sadly.
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Post by The man from Utch on Nov 24, 2020 17:51:19 GMT
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Post by sheikhmomo on Nov 24, 2020 18:15:03 GMT
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Post by The man from Utch on Nov 24, 2020 18:27:28 GMT
So are you saying workers rights that are supposedly eroding over here is Trump's doing, and he's to blame for it arriving in the UK too? I get it, bad orange man is to blame for everything. What your link fails to mention is what was it like pre 2016.
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Post by sheikhmomo on Nov 24, 2020 18:36:50 GMT
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Post by sorethumbs on Nov 24, 2020 19:03:21 GMT
In a similar way that Biden has asked for donations, with the small print on Biden's saying that 75% goes to the DNC - essentially the campaign fund In response to the others above I'll just repeat what I've said - there will be red faces. There's a bit of a difference though where folk donating to Biden know the money is going to the campaign and folk getting emailed hourly to donate to a legal expense fund where barely any of it will be used for that. A donation of USD5k or under will result in the legal expense fund getting exactly zero dollars: www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-election-trump-fundraising-insigh-idUSKBN27R309 But the disclosure language changed after Trump’s campaign treasurer, Bradley Crate, incorporated the Save America political action committee on Monday. Crate did not reply to requests for comment. Unlike campaign funds, which have tight controls on how they can be spent, leadership PACs such as Save America carry few restrictions. Republicans and Democrats alike have drawn criticism for using them to pay family members and to fund luxury events in exotic locations. A 2018 report by the Campaign Legal Center and Issue One, two groups that advocate campaign finance reform, said some leadership PACs have been used as vehicles to “subsidize lavish lifestyles” of politicians “on their donors’ dimes.”If it turns out that an election attested as the safest ever by Republican's responsible for the count of various States; that was overseen by a Republican around the postal service and; with a judiciary heavily loaded top to bottom with Republicans over the last four years has been compromised by a Venezuelan communist plot that changes votes within the vote counting software that the Republicans were leading pre-postal vote count I'll paint my face and arse red and whistle Dixie through Kidsgrove. Can you hold a tune? BTW I wasn't defending Trump, just pointing out that both parties get up to the same tricks. As your link reinforces that same view, thanks
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Post by sorethumbs on Nov 24, 2020 19:07:10 GMT
Can anybody link to an actual case where Trumps team has had the case kicked out of court? Should be quite easy if you believe MSM.
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Post by noustie on Nov 24, 2020 20:06:51 GMT
There's a bit of a difference though where folk donating to Biden know the money is going to the campaign and folk getting emailed hourly to donate to a legal expense fund where barely any of it will be used for that. A donation of USD5k or under will result in the legal expense fund getting exactly zero dollars: www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-election-trump-fundraising-insigh-idUSKBN27R309 But the disclosure language changed after Trump’s campaign treasurer, Bradley Crate, incorporated the Save America political action committee on Monday. Crate did not reply to requests for comment. Unlike campaign funds, which have tight controls on how they can be spent, leadership PACs such as Save America carry few restrictions. Republicans and Democrats alike have drawn criticism for using them to pay family members and to fund luxury events in exotic locations. A 2018 report by the Campaign Legal Center and Issue One, two groups that advocate campaign finance reform, said some leadership PACs have been used as vehicles to “subsidize lavish lifestyles” of politicians “on their donors’ dimes.”If it turns out that an election attested as the safest ever by Republican's responsible for the count of various States; that was overseen by a Republican around the postal service and; with a judiciary heavily loaded top to bottom with Republicans over the last four years has been compromised by a Venezuelan communist plot that changes votes within the vote counting software that the Republicans were leading pre-postal vote count I'll paint my face and arse red and whistle Dixie through Kidsgrove. Can you hold a tune? BTW I wasn't defending Trump, just pointing out that both parties get up to the same tricks. As your link reinforces that same view, thanks It does but it's not as if the nuance is particularly subtle. Comparing what Trump's doing here and saying its just the same as typical electioneering, regardless of sides, is comparing apples with trampolines.
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Post by noustie on Nov 24, 2020 20:18:15 GMT
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Post by The man from Utch on Nov 24, 2020 20:37:01 GMT
Kind of hard to accept being true when Trump was the one trying to keep mines open and drilling for oil, jobs for the working man.
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Post by sheikhmomo on Nov 24, 2020 21:39:00 GMT
Kind of hard to accept being true when Trump was the one trying to keep mines open and drilling for oil, jobs for the working man. Jobs absolutely. Jobs with no rights, no benefits and no security. Just the sort of Labour Market that people like Trump benefit from and this corrupt Government over here are licking their lips at the prospect post Brexit.
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Post by RichieBarkerOut! on Nov 24, 2020 23:00:00 GMT
Can anybody link to an actual case where Trumps team has had the case kicked out of court? Should be quite easy if you believe MSM. Yes, very easy to find, this one is six days out of date. Time
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Post by RichieBarkerOut! on Nov 24, 2020 23:03:13 GMT
Kind of hard to accept being true when Trump was the one trying to keep mines open and drilling for oil, jobs for the working man. Putting a climate change denier in charge of the EPA, withdrawing from the Paris Accord and boosting polluting industries and relaxing already slack building regulations will do wonders for jobs. Fuck the environment and take your wage packet.
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Post by The man from Utch on Nov 24, 2020 23:25:51 GMT
Kind of hard to accept being true when Trump was the one trying to keep mines open and drilling for oil, jobs for the working man. Putting a climate change denier in charge of the EPA, withdrawing from the Paris Accord and boosting polluting industries and relaxing already slack building regulations will do wonders for jobs. Fuck the environment and take your wage packet. Apparently Bite me is going to create nice clean environmental friendly jobs for all the miners and oil workers.
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Post by wagsastokie on Nov 25, 2020 9:58:33 GMT
I found it surprising that Trump actually got into the Whitehouse .I found it even more surprising that so many Americans voted for him to stay in. I`m just glad I don`t live there. Eddy, what is it about the state of the USA other than the lawlessness in Democrat run cities that would make you say you are glad you don't live over here? This country until the Corona virus was enjoying its best period in decades. I've lived over here for a little over 20 years and have never witnessed such a good economy. The fact that it’s a country based solely on the ability to pay
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Post by sorethumbs on Nov 25, 2020 10:22:28 GMT
Biden will be the next President. That might be true. Do you think that's ok? Considering all the fraud/illegally cast votes?
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