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Post by Northy on Dec 21, 2018 9:55:05 GMT
Im on about whats on the link, supsects known to the police checking out airports and taking photographs Sorry I was hasty in my response! I’m still hoping it’s ET Are you sure  |
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Post by flea79 on Dec 21, 2018 9:57:02 GMT
Damn right!
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Post by Mr_DaftBurger on Dec 22, 2018 8:23:15 GMT
The people doing this give decent Drone users a bad name, I have a DJI Mavic Pro and i love it and i work at Heathrow, however i keep the geofencing on & where i use it is outside of the airport boundaries, Yes i can fly it to 4 miles plus away if i wanted to, but i use it for recreational purposes and do not take the piss. Please don't Tar everyone with the same brush. I bet this summer was great for your 'recreational purposes'!  |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 22, 2018 19:03:09 GMT
The couple have now been named - but the bloke's boss doesn't think he's involved. link |
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Post by JoeinOz on Dec 23, 2018 1:19:36 GMT
A country so riddled by Brexit,
Causes many to head for the Exit
And they plan to spend Yule
In climes both warm and cool,
Then some twat with a drone goes and wrecks it.
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Post by Davef on Dec 23, 2018 12:01:26 GMT
The couple have now been named - but the bloke's boss doesn't think he's involved. linkThe couple have been released without charge. |
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Post by Absolution on Dec 23, 2018 12:10:34 GMT
He was at work and she has no interest in flying drones. Seems like a case of them being arrested on the grounds that 'they own a drone'. They're clutching at straws, aren't they.
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Post by Mendicant on Dec 23, 2018 12:33:39 GMT
A country so riddled by Brexit, Causes many to head for the Exit And they plan to spend Yule In climes both warm and cool, Then some twat with a drone goes and wrecks it. There was a drone owner from Staines Who disturbed the logistics of planes He aimed towards heaven Hit a 757 And got sent to the nick for his pains. |
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Post by auntiegeorge on Dec 23, 2018 13:19:54 GMT
The couple have now been named - but the bloke's boss doesn't think he's involved. linkThe couple have been released without charge. But not before their names and photos were plastered on the front pages of today's gutter press. I hope they take them to the cleaners. Makes me sick. Only in Britain....  |
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Post by teenagefanclub on Dec 23, 2018 17:13:32 GMT
Wtf!!
From the BBC article:
He added there was "always a possibility that there may not have been any genuine drone activity in the first place"
Comments made by the officer in charge of the investigation.
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Post by felonious on Dec 23, 2018 18:20:30 GMT
The couple have now been named - but the bloke's boss doesn't think he's involved. linkA "drone enthusiast" the modern day equivalent of a train spotter  |
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Post by felonious on Dec 23, 2018 18:25:34 GMT
The couple have been released without charge. But not before their names and photos were plastered on the front pages of today's gutter press. I hope they take them to the cleaners. Makes me sick. Only in Britain.... The lethal combination strikes again..... incompetent police and gutter press. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 23, 2018 18:53:54 GMT
But not before their names and photos were plastered on the front pages of today's gutter press. I hope they take them to the cleaners. Makes me sick. Only in Britain.... The lethal combination strikes again..... incompetent police and gutter press. As has been said - I hope they take them to the cleaners on this - it will no doubt have made their lives hell during this episode. Meanwhile the real perpetrators remain at large. |
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Post by felonious on Dec 23, 2018 18:58:16 GMT
The lethal combination strikes again..... incompetent police and gutter press. As has been said - I hope they take them to the cleaners on this - it will no doubt have made their lives hell during this episode. Meanwhile the real perpetrators remain at large. I'm sure I heard a report on the news earlier saying that they are now investigating the possibility of no drone activity taking place??? |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 23, 2018 19:03:12 GMT
As has been said - I hope they take them to the cleaners on this - it will no doubt have made their lives hell during this episode. Meanwhile the real perpetrators remain at large. I'm sure I heard a report on the news earlier saying that they are now investigating the possibility of no drone activity taking place??? Unbelievable isn't it ? So I wonder who it was that initially called it ? |
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Post by bigjohnritchie on Dec 23, 2018 20:26:16 GMT
I agree with Labour on this. So many issues; Was it a drone? If not what was it? It could have been a drone, are we prepared for the possibility of another one? At all our airports? Could it have been worse, a targeted drone attack? Where else could be attacked.. parliament, Buckingham palace? Are we prepared...the Israeli defence system..the cost...How did we get to this state of anxiety, threat? Then there's the personal, legal handling of the event.... Who released the accused names? What comeback is there on those who have publicised the "accused"( or more accurately just those being questioned)... particularly the publicity of their guilt. The implications of this for other offences. Gatwick drone: Labour calls for independent inquiry www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-46663898 |
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Post by partickpotter on Dec 24, 2018 7:58:48 GMT
I agree with Labour on this. So many issues; Was it a drone? If not what was it? It could have been a drone, are we prepared for the possibility of another one? At all our airports? Could it have been worse, a targeted drone attack? Where else could be attacked.. parliament, Buckingham palace? Are we prepared...the Israeli defence system..the cost...How did we get to this state of anxiety, threat? Then there's the personal, legal handling of the event.... Who released the accused names? What comeback is there on those who have publicised the "accused"( or more accurately just those being questioned)... particularly the publicity of their guilt. The implications of this for other offences. Gatwick drone: Labour calls for independent inquiry www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-46663898Lots of good questions... But, I'm not a fan of turning this into a party political issue. Mainly because it isn't. Labour's posturing is far more about political point scoring than anything else. And, who would expect anything else. If the boot was on the other foot it would be the same. An inquiry is necessary, but it doesn't need to be public. There may be very good reasons for holding one privately, albeit with its findings published. Interestingly, the EU adopted new rules on drones in the summer. This being the sort of good work the EU is capable of. Being unelectable does have its advantages as you don't have to indulge in the silky politics that seems to be all Westminster is capable off. |
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Post by bigjohnritchie on Dec 24, 2018 8:22:51 GMT
I agree with Labour on this. So many issues; Was it a drone? If not what was it? It could have been a drone, are we prepared for the possibility of another one? At all our airports? Could it have been worse, a targeted drone attack? Where else could be attacked.. parliament, Buckingham palace? Are we prepared...the Israeli defence system..the cost...How did we get to this state of anxiety, threat? Then there's the personal, legal handling of the event.... Who released the accused names? What comeback is there on those who have publicised the "accused"( or more accurately just those being questioned)... particularly the publicity of their guilt. The implications of this for other offences. Gatwick drone: Labour calls for independent inquiry www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-46663898Lots of good questions... But, I'm not a fan of turning this into a party political issue. Mainly because it isn't. Labour's posturing is far more about political point scoring than anything else. And, who would expect anything else. If the boot was on the other foot it would be the same. An inquiry is necessary, but it doesn't need to be public. There may be very good reasons for holding one privately, albeit with its findings published. Interestingly, the EU adopted new rules on drones in the summer. This being the sort of good work the EU is capable of. Being unelectable does have its advantages as you don't have to indulge in the silky politics that seems to be all Westminster is capable off. I don't think that it should be a political football myself Partick and perhaps in good faith I accepted the Labour position that there should be an independent ( I am not aware that they said public) enquiry.i think that the public will want to know the answers to those questions because it has been one big those significant events that seems to be a bit of a mystery candidate with no reassurance that the chances of it happening again have not been reduced.I think that the answers to these question are needed and some work needs to be done that mitigates the potential negative effects of drones. About the EU,I would agree with you that the incident should not be a political football, but I would have to say first of all that this incident happened despite the valuable work of the EU....so what exactly has their good work achieved in this case ( and Let me stress that I believe what you say Partick because I know that you always take an independent honest view), have we failed to follow a guideline/ policy ...the new rules..( or rather a directive or regulation)....a genuine question.? ( My view has always been that the EU could and have come out with some good ideas but nothing that the UK could not do for itself in most cases .....and where the proposals/ policies need s wider/ global/ international application they should come about through international dialogue/ agreement......and if that means the UK having dialogue with the EU , post Brexit , I am very happy with that). Secondly I believe that that a pilots' association or some such body had been calling for some action over the summer but nothing seems to have transpired. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 24, 2018 8:34:14 GMT
So, it appears the two people arrested may not have been involved and according to last nights reports there may or may not have been any drones in the area.
While all this was grabbing the country’s attention and eyes were diverted, I have to wonder what else the government was up to ... ?
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Post by partickpotter on Dec 24, 2018 8:45:48 GMT
Lots of good questions... But, I'm not a fan of turning this into a party political issue. Mainly because it isn't. Labour's posturing is far more about political point scoring than anything else. And, who would expect anything else. If the boot was on the other foot it would be the same. An inquiry is necessary, but it doesn't need to be public. There may be very good reasons for holding one privately, albeit with its findings published. Interestingly, the EU adopted new rules on drones in the summer. This being the sort of good work the EU is capable of. Being unelectable does have its advantages as you don't have to indulge in the silky politics that seems to be all Westminster is capable off. I don't think that it should be a political football myself Partick and perhaps in good faith I accepted the Labour position that there should be an independent ( I am not aware that they said public) enquiry.i think that the public will want to know the answers to those questions because it has been one big those significant events that seems to be a bit of a mystery candidate with no reassurance that the chances of it happening again have not been reduced.I think that the answers to these question are needed and some work needs to be done that mitigates the potential negative effects of drones. About the EU,I would agree with you that the incident should not be a political football, but I would have to say first of all that this incident happened despite the valuable work of the EU....so what exactly has their good work achieved in this case ( and Let me stress that I believe what you say Partick because I know that you always take an independent honest view), have we failed to follow a guideline/ policy ...the new rules..( or rather a directive or regulation)....a genuine question.? ( My view has always been that the EU could and have come out with some good ideas but nothing that the UK could not do for itself in most cases .....and where the proposals/ policies need s wider/ global/ international application they should come about through international dialogue/ agreement......and if that means the UK having dialogue with the EU , post Brexit , I am very happy with that). Secondly I believe that that a pilots' association or some such body had been calling for some action over the summer but nothing seems to have transpired. Whoops - my error. You are right - they have called for an independent inquiry which is right and fair. The problem is they also took the opportunity to stick the boot into the Tories about their approach - which may be the case or it may not be (and as mentioned is what the Tories would have done if the roles were reversed). An independent inquiry will sort that out as well as whether or not the new EU rules are adequate. I expect recommendations will come forward that will say improvements can be made in both areas - but that ain't to say both are currently shit. Rather, with an emerging, evolving problem like this we learn and make changes as we go. The point is, IMO, stuff like this is primarily apolitical and requires technical experts operating without political pressure. Strangely, this is the sort of thing the EU can do well - as seen with establishing GSM as the standard for mobile phones across Europe. |
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Post by bigjohnritchie on Dec 24, 2018 8:49:41 GMT
I don't think that it should be a political football myself Partick and perhaps in good faith I accepted the Labour position that there should be an independent ( I am not aware that they said public) enquiry.i think that the public will want to know the answers to those questions because it has been one big those significant events that seems to be a bit of a mystery candidate with no reassurance that the chances of it happening again have not been reduced.I think that the answers to these question are needed and some work needs to be done that mitigates the potential negative effects of drones. About the EU,I would agree with you that the incident should not be a political football, but I would have to say first of all that this incident happened despite the valuable work of the EU....so what exactly has their good work achieved in this case ( and Let me stress that I believe what you say Partick because I know that you always take an independent honest view), have we failed to follow a guideline/ policy ...the new rules..( or rather a directive or regulation)....a genuine question.? ( My view has always been that the EU could and have come out with some good ideas but nothing that the UK could not do for itself in most cases .....and where the proposals/ policies need s wider/ global/ international application they should come about through international dialogue/ agreement......and if that means the UK having dialogue with the EU , post Brexit , I am very happy with that). Secondly I believe that that a pilots' association or some such body had been calling for some action over the summer but nothing seems to have transpired. Whoops - my error. You are right - they have called for an independent inquiry which is right and fair. The problem is they also took the opportunity to stick the boot into the Tories about their approach - which may be the case or it may not be (and as mentioned is what the Tories would have done if the roles were reversed). An independent inquiry will sort that out as well as whether or not the new EU rules are adequate. I expect recommendations will come forward that will say improvements can be made in both areas - but that ain't to say both are currently shit. Rather, with an emerging, evolving problem like this we learn and make changes as we go. The point is, IMO, stuff like this is primarily apolitical and requires technical experts operating without political pressure. Strangely, this is the sort of thing the EU can do well - as seen with establishing GSM as the standard for mobile phones across Europe. I think that you are right as well Partick www.consilium.europa.eu/en/policies/dronesI think a lot more international work needs to be done particularly as technology / batteries progresses......in one sense drones are mini planes/ helicopters |
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Post by bigjohnritchie on Dec 24, 2018 8:52:39 GMT
I don't think that it should be a political football myself Partick and perhaps in good faith I accepted the Labour position that there should be an independent ( I am not aware that they said public) enquiry.i think that the public will want to know the answers to those questions because it has been one big those significant events that seems to be a bit of a mystery candidate with no reassurance that the chances of it happening again have not been reduced.I think that the answers to these question are needed and some work needs to be done that mitigates the potential negative effects of drones. About the EU,I would agree with you that the incident should not be a political football, but I would have to say first of all that this incident happened despite the valuable work of the EU....so what exactly has their good work achieved in this case ( and Let me stress that I believe what you say Partick because I know that you always take an independent honest view), have we failed to follow a guideline/ policy ...the new rules..( or rather a directive or regulation)....a genuine question.? ( My view has always been that the EU could and have come out with some good ideas but nothing that the UK could not do for itself in most cases .....and where the proposals/ policies need s wider/ global/ international application they should come about through international dialogue/ agreement......and if that means the UK having dialogue with the EU , post Brexit , I am very happy with that). Secondly I believe that that a pilots' association or some such body had been calling for some action over the summer but nothing seems to have transpired. Whoops - my error. You are right - they have called for an independent inquiry which is right and fair. The problem is they also took the opportunity to stick the boot into the Tories about their approach - which may be the case or it may not be (and as mentioned is what the Tories would have done if the roles were reversed). An independent inquiry will sort that out as well as whether or not the new EU rules are adequate. I expect recommendations will come forward that will say improvements can be made in both areas - but that ain't to say both are currently shit. Rather, with an emerging, evolving problem like this we learn and make changes as we go. The point is, IMO, stuff like this is primarily apolitical and requires technical experts operating without political pressure. Strangely, this is the sort of thing the EU can do well - as seen with establishing GSM as the standard for mobile phones across Europe. It seems like this Easa is 32 states not just the EU.... seems like we need international agreement. All sensible stuff.... but we need to consider what to do when people don't stick to the rules and they become s threat...aka the Israeli scenario Use of drones: EASA recommendations What to do: Keep your drone in sight at all times Plan your flight and choose an unobstructed site Get permission if you want to use your drone for paid work Read the manufacturer's instructions carefully What not to do: Do not fly in a way that endangers anyone Do not fly overhead or within 50 metres of people, property or vehicles Do not fly higher than 150 metres from the ground Keep away from airports and helipads |
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Post by boru on Dec 28, 2018 0:12:33 GMT
Gatwick airport has, today , been sold to a French company....
The company who bought from the country have flipped it big in a few years...
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Post by felonious on Dec 29, 2018 17:40:44 GMT
So, it appears the two people arrested may not have been involved and according to last nights reports there may or may not have been any drones in the area. While all this was grabbing the country’s attention and eyes were diverted, I have to wonder what else the government was up to ... ? Apparently plod may have been sending up drones around Gatwick to check for drones around Gatwick which may have led to more sightings of drones around Gatwick which may have led plod to send up more drones to check for drones. Were their drones getting positive sightings of their earlier drones?
When they realised their error they quickly arrested the nearest innocent members of the public and released their full details to the press in order to deflect and kick the matter into the long grass. This couple have had their lives trashed as can be gleaned from the following video clip. Still Plod say it could have been worse for the innocent couple because they would normally release them on bail for 2 to 3 years as part of their normal standard we've fucked up procedures.
Mr York (Chief Constable) said police received 115 reports of sightings, including 93 confirmed as coming from "credible people", which he later said included a pilot, airport staff and police officers.
It's good to think that the chief constable thinks his officers are "credible people" 
www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-sussex-46709353
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Post by Mendicant on Dec 30, 2018 14:33:22 GMT
So, it appears the two people arrested may not have been involved and according to last nights reports there may or may not have been any drones in the area. While all this was grabbing the country’s attention and eyes were diverted, I have to wonder what else the government was up to ... ? Apparently plod may have been sending up drones around Gatwick to check for drones around Gatwick which may have led to more sightings of drones around Gatwick which may have led plod to send up more drones to check for drones. Were their drones getting positive sightings of their earlier drones?
When they realised their error they quickly arrested the nearest innocent members of the public and released their full details to the press in order to deflect and kick the matter into the long grass. This couple have had their lives trashed as can be gleaned from the following video clip. Still Plod say it could have been worse for the innocent couple because they would normally release them on bail for 2 to 3 years as part of their normal standard we've fucked up procedures.
Mr York (Chief Constable) said police received 115 reports of sightings, including 93 confirmed as coming from "credible people", which he later said included a pilot, airport staff and police officers.
It's good to think that the chief constable thinks his officers are "credible people"
www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-sussex-46709353
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Post by bigjohnritchie on Jan 8, 2019 17:56:19 GMT
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