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Post by Deleted on Apr 20, 2019 21:11:56 GMT
Is the reason the tories on here and in the press making sch a deal of this that a shes a women b shes black c shes a labour mp d they are getting desperate I think all of the above however you Tories better look to your own as they say those in glass houses shouldn't throw stones for eg the tory who blocked the upskirting bill the erg the mp found guilty of fiddling his expenses the mp found guilty of not registering an investment in a house the tories found guilty of election fraud the Government who were found in contempt of parliament (think first time ever) the government who have the record biggest defeat in parlimentary history ever the government who have seen record serious crime and cut 20000 police officers the government that has in 2+ years had 23 resignations from ministerial posts (that's not even counting the forced sackings) the government that has more than doubled national debt when they said it would be eradicated by now A Pm who does not listen to here own ministers or her party and thinks negociation is talking listering and ignoring peoples views and the list go's on and on You just don't get it do you Joey ? It has nothing, I repeat, nothing, to do with your points about Ms. Abbott....let me see, what was it you said...woman, black, Labour, desperate. It's because "this person" (see.... no sexual reference or prejudice and no mention of colour, and no shouting) is an absolute liability and lurches from one disaster to another. With unerring frequency "this person" regularly makes statements and does interviews which are either utter rubbish and/or factually incorrect. As "this person" is in such a high profile position as Shadow Home Secretary, it would be better, would it not, if "this person" could get it's act together. This latest incident, although minor, really doesn't set a good example does it. Whether "this person" has broken the "law" or not,,,.if it is clearly signed on TFL buses, trains and trams that a fine will be imposed on anyone breaching the rules/law (call it what you will), then "this person" should know better and act accordingly. Bottom line is "this person" is an absolute liability and god help us if "this person" ever becomes Home Secretary. I do agree with most of your points about the Tories as they have been truly abysmal but most of what you have written is just pure deflection when Ms. Abbott was the original subject
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Post by thevoid on Apr 20, 2019 21:18:01 GMT
How come you've changed from Joey Essex into Judge John Deed in four hours? As part of my degree had to study business law under one of the best in this country So why haven't you made anything of it? You were blaming the Tories for not being able to afford a passport awhile back. A shelf stacker at Lidl can afford a passport.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 20, 2019 21:22:01 GMT
As part of my degree had to study business law under one of the best in this country So why haven't you made anything of it? You were blaming the Tories for not being able to afford a passport awhile back. A shelf stacker at Lidl can afford a passport. Yes, but the shelf stacker got their passport in Poland or Romania !
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Post by RipRoaringPotter on Apr 20, 2019 22:18:07 GMT
I'm reliably informed the Tories will be embroiled in a similarly serious scandal on the front pages of tomorrow's papers. Iain Duncan Smith was seen picking his nose in a Wimpy last Thursday.
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Post by thevoid on Apr 20, 2019 22:34:21 GMT
I'm reliably informed the Tories will be embroiled in a similarly serious scandal on the front pages of tomorrow's papers. Iain Duncan Smith was seen picking his nose in a Wimpy last Thursday. At least he's stopped roasting poor people with a trident.
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Post by RipRoaringPotter on Apr 20, 2019 22:36:11 GMT
I'm reliably informed the Tories will be embroiled in a similarly serious scandal on the front pages of tomorrow's papers. Iain Duncan Smith was seen picking his nose in a Wimpy last Thursday. At least he's stopped roasting poor people with a trident. What do you think his Wimpy burger was made of?
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Post by thevoid on Apr 20, 2019 22:42:37 GMT
At least he's stopped roasting poor people with a trident. What do you think his Wimpy burger was made of? Mulch.
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Post by harryburrows on Apr 21, 2019 4:36:51 GMT
If they can impose a fine it must be legally enforceable Under contract law enforceable through the civil courts system not through the criminal court system as in laws passed by government It doesn't need to be a criminal offence to be illegal, it's got nothing to do with contract law . Now you are talking crap 💩
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Post by essexstokey on Apr 21, 2019 7:01:32 GMT
Under contract law enforceable through the civil courts system not through the criminal court system as in laws passed by government It doesn't need to be a criminal offence to be illegal, it's got nothing to do with contract law . Now you are talking crap 💩 No the only bs is coming from you Contract Law Law and Legal Definition. Contracts are agreements that are legally enforceable. A contract may involve a duty to do or refrain from doing something, and the failure to perform such duty is called a breach of contract. This was a contract between the passenger Ms abbot and TFL as part of the contract there are terms and conditions the drinking law is part of theses terms and conditions Behaviour Code for 5-10, 11-15 and 16+ Oyster photocard holders TfL’s Behaviour Code exists to ensure you travel safety and show respect for our passengers, staff and property. You must follow it or you might lose your travel concession or Oyster photocard. Expected behaviours include, but are not limited to the following: Act in a considerate and responsible manner: • Act safely • Cooperate with our staff and treat them and other passengers with respect • Use language that does not cause offence to others • Ensure that you are the only person that can hear your music • Ensure you pick up all your litter • Keep your feet off the seats • Give up your seat for others Look after your Oyster photocard: • Ensure it is not used by another person • Ensure your photo is clearly recognisable and the card is in good condition • If it is lost, stolen or damaged, report it to TfL immediately even if you do not plan to get a replacement straight away Use your Oyster photocard correctly: • Always touch in on the yellow reader on buses and trams • Always touch in and touch out on the Tube, DLR, London Overground, TfL Rail and National Rail services • Pay the correct fare if you do not have your valid photocard with you or it is damaged • Pay any penalty fare that has been issued to you You must not: • Smoke or use an electronic cigarette, take drugs or drink alcohol on our vehicles and/or premises • Behave in a way that we consider to be antisocial • Commit any crime that affects our services, passengers, staff or property • Breach the Conditions of Carriage, PSV Regulations (1990), GLA Act (1999) or any TfL Byelaw Again I say this is not a breach of Legal law but of contract law and a breach of terms and conditions
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Post by harryburrows on Apr 21, 2019 11:33:17 GMT
It doesn't need to be a criminal offence to be illegal, it's got nothing to do with contract law . Now you are talking crap 💩 No the only bs is coming from you Contract Law Law and Legal Definition. Contracts are agreements that are legally enforceable. A contract may involve a duty to do or refrain from doing something, and the failure to perform such duty is called a breach of contract. This was a contract between the passenger Ms abbot and TFL as part of the contract there are terms and conditions the drinking law is part of theses terms and conditions Behaviour Code for 5-10, 11-15 and 16+ Oyster photocard holders TfL’s Behaviour Code exists to ensure you travel safety and show respect for our passengers, staff and property. You must follow it or you might lose your travel concession or Oyster photocard. Expected behaviours include, but are not limited to the following: Act in a considerate and responsible manner: • Act safely • Cooperate with our staff and treat them and other passengers with respect • Use language that does not cause offence to others • Ensure that you are the only person that can hear your music • Ensure you pick up all your litter • Keep your feet off the seats • Give up your seat for others Look after your Oyster photocard: • Ensure it is not used by another person • Ensure your photo is clearly recognisable and the card is in good condition • If it is lost, stolen or damaged, report it to TfL immediately even if you do not plan to get a replacement straight away Use your Oyster photocard correctly: • Always touch in on the yellow reader on buses and trams • Always touch in and touch out on the Tube, DLR, London Overground, TfL Rail and National Rail services • Pay the correct fare if you do not have your valid photocard with you or it is damaged • Pay any penalty fare that has been issued to you You must not: • Smoke or use an electronic cigarette, take drugs or drink alcohol on our vehicles and/or premises • Behave in a way that we consider to be antisocial • Commit any crime that affects our services, passengers, staff or property • Breach the Conditions of Carriage, PSV Regulations (1990), GLA Act (1999) or any TfL Byelaw Again I say this is not a breach of Legal law but of contract law and a breach of terms and conditions Although such byelaws have limited scope they do create criminal charges that are dealt with in magistrates court . Let's end this nonsense anyway . You obviously can't see the wood for the trees
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Post by thevoid on Apr 21, 2019 11:47:33 GMT
Essex Boy is The Oatcake's very own Arnold Rimmer- blaming everyone else for his own misfortunes rather than looking closer to home. Typical Labour-felching 'victim'.
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Post by essexstokey on Apr 21, 2019 13:01:03 GMT
No the only bs is coming from you Contract Law Law and Legal Definition. Contracts are agreements that are legally enforceable. A contract may involve a duty to do or refrain from doing something, and the failure to perform such duty is called a breach of contract. This was a contract between the passenger Ms abbot and TFL as part of the contract there are terms and conditions the drinking law is part of theses terms and conditions Behaviour Code for 5-10, 11-15 and 16+ Oyster photocard holders TfL’s Behaviour Code exists to ensure you travel safety and show respect for our passengers, staff and property. You must follow it or you might lose your travel concession or Oyster photocard. Expected behaviours include, but are not limited to the following: Act in a considerate and responsible manner: • Act safely • Cooperate with our staff and treat them and other passengers with respect • Use language that does not cause offence to others • Ensure that you are the only person that can hear your music • Ensure you pick up all your litter • Keep your feet off the seats • Give up your seat for others Look after your Oyster photocard: • Ensure it is not used by another person • Ensure your photo is clearly recognisable and the card is in good condition • If it is lost, stolen or damaged, report it to TfL immediately even if you do not plan to get a replacement straight away Use your Oyster photocard correctly: • Always touch in on the yellow reader on buses and trams • Always touch in and touch out on the Tube, DLR, London Overground, TfL Rail and National Rail services • Pay the correct fare if you do not have your valid photocard with you or it is damaged • Pay any penalty fare that has been issued to you You must not: • Smoke or use an electronic cigarette, take drugs or drink alcohol on our vehicles and/or premises • Behave in a way that we consider to be antisocial • Commit any crime that affects our services, passengers, staff or property • Breach the Conditions of Carriage, PSV Regulations (1990), GLA Act (1999) or any TfL Byelaw Again I say this is not a breach of Legal law but of contract law and a breach of terms and conditions Although such byelaws have limited scope they do create criminal charges that are dealt with in magistrates court . Let's end this nonsense anyway . You obviously can't see the wood for the trees rrrrrrrr it can't be criminal charges as whoever it is are not braking a law of the land. If that was the case everyone who went out for a drink on a Saturday night could be prosecuted under the law for taking a swig of the alcohol. think you need to look at the difference between criminal law and civil law and the terms used for each. just go's to show how dumb some of the tories are on here quite worrying !! but then again they do support a corrupt and unmoral government!!
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Post by Deleted on Apr 22, 2019 12:03:42 GMT
Press Association article today
DOH! Bungling Labour party in embarrassing Twitter gaffe after posting Happy St George’s Day message 24 hours EARLY
The party had used the tweet to sway potential future voters but was instead left embarrassed when eagle-eyed Twitter users noticed the error.
Its official account merrily issued a tweet this morning wishing everyone a "Happy St George's Day" - before quickly deleting it when it was pointed out it is infact tomorrow.
The full message went on to read: "With the next Labour government, we'll celebrate the patron saint with a bank holiday and bank holidays for St Patrick, St David and St Andrew too. "Sound good? Share the news."
The attempt to sway potential future voters with extra bank holidays left the party with egg on it's face, when eagle-eyed Twitter users noticed the key mix-up. One person responded: "The Labour party has tweeted Happy St George's Day... on the wrong day... and these pricks wanna run the country!"
Another said: "I'm looking forward to their Christmas Day message... on the 24th December - has Diane Abbott been put in charge of organising it."
And numerous people replied : "How is a country meant to vote for you, you can't even get the date of our patron Saint right."
The tweet was swiftly deleted, as was an enthusiastic posting of the same message from Northumberland Labour.
An infuriated Labour councillor wrote: "Labour - the party that wants to run this great country can't even get the date of Saint George's Day right. "Incompetent, idiotic, mismanaged? Which is it?"
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Post by thevoid on Apr 22, 2019 12:48:33 GMT
Press Association article today DOH! Bungling Labour party in embarrassing Twitter gaffe after posting Happy St George’s Day message 24 hours EARLYThe party had used the tweet to sway potential future voters but was instead left embarrassed when eagle-eyed Twitter users noticed the error. Its official account merrily issued a tweet this morning wishing everyone a "Happy St George's Day" - before quickly deleting it when it was pointed out it is infact tomorrow. The full message went on to read: "With the next Labour government, we'll celebrate the patron saint with a bank holiday and bank holidays for St Patrick, St David and St Andrew too. "Sound good? Share the news." The attempt to sway potential future voters with extra bank holidays left the party with egg on it's face, when eagle-eyed Twitter users noticed the key mix-up. One person responded: "The Labour party has tweeted Happy St George's Day... on the wrong day... and these pricks wanna run the country!" Another said: "I'm looking forward to their Christmas Day message... on the 24th December - has Diane Abbott been put in charge of organising it." And numerous people replied : "How is a country meant to vote for you, you can't even get the date of our patron Saint right." The tweet was swiftly deleted, as was an enthusiastic posting of the same message from Northumberland Labour. An infuriated Labour councillor wrote: "Labour - the party that wants to run this great country can't even get the date of Saint George's Day right. "Incompetent, idiotic, mismanaged? Which is it?" It's almost as if they're trying hard to look slightly patriotic to appeal to their Leave voters.
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Post by mattyd on Apr 22, 2019 16:47:37 GMT
Extra Bank Hols….Yeah, just what businesses need in these difficult times.
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Post by mattyd on Apr 22, 2019 16:50:10 GMT
Although such byelaws have limited scope they do create criminal charges that are dealt with in magistrates court . Let's end this nonsense anyway . You obviously can't see the wood for the trees rrrrrrrr it can't be criminal charges as whoever it is are not braking a law of the land. If that was the case everyone who went out for a drink on a Saturday night could be prosecuted under the law for taking a swig of the alcohol. think you need to look at the difference between criminal law and civil law and the terms used for each. just go's to show how dumb some of the tories are on here quite worrying !! but then again they do support a corrupt and unmoral government!! Quite how you can call anyone "Dumb" after that illiterate rant is incredible in itself. And what on earth is an unmoral government. That is right up there with your made up word sexisum. For someone with a law degree you are really quite stupid.
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Post by thevoid on Apr 22, 2019 18:38:33 GMT
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Post by thevoid on Apr 22, 2019 18:42:03 GMT
We'd better avoid criticising Berahino, he's black and shit at his job too but clearly it's racist to bring this up.
So- Saido's a real asset to the team.
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Post by auntiegeorge on Apr 22, 2019 18:47:03 GMT
Don't know if this has been mentioned yet but Corbyn suggested yesterday he would not move into No.10 if elected PM. He would continue to live in his Islington home and commute to Westminster, whilst turning the rose garden at No.10 into an allotment. Follwing a Labour victory this will be the new seat of British power....
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Post by murphthesurf on Apr 22, 2019 19:16:23 GMT
Don't know if this has been mentioned yet but Corbyn suggested yesterday he would not move into No.10 if elected PM. He would continue to live in his Islington home and commute to Westminster, whilst turning the rose garden at No.10 into an allotment. Follwing a Labour victory this will be the new seat of British power.... Errrrrrrgggggghhhhhh. Just Errrrrrrgggggghhhhhh. Probably followed by sound of head being banged against a wall….. And THIS
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Post by harryburrows on Apr 22, 2019 20:39:21 GMT
rrrrrrrr it can't be criminal charges as whoever it is are not braking a law of the land. If that was the case everyone who went out for a drink on a Saturday night could be prosecuted under the law for taking a swig of the alcohol. think you need to look at the difference between criminal law and civil law and the terms used for each. just go's to show how dumb some of the tories are on here quite worrying !! but then again they do support a corrupt and unmoral government!! Quite how you can call anyone "Dumb" after that illiterate rant is incredible in itself. And what on earth is an unmoral government. That is right up there with your made up word sexisum. For someone with a law degree you are really quite stupid. He doesn't have a law degree
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Post by essexstokey on Apr 22, 2019 21:07:03 GMT
Don't know if this has been mentioned yet but Corbyn suggested yesterday he would not move into No.10 if elected PM. He would continue to live in his Islington home and commute to Westminster, whilst turning the rose garden at No.10 into an allotment. Follwing a Labour victory this will be the new seat of British power.... well no 10 as an allotment sounds good to me but its nothing new Under Thatcher we had a cabinet of vegetables under Major a cabinet of weeds under Cameron a cabinet of bullsh** under May we have a cabinet that is sh** so number 10 is prime for something to grow with all that manure about and the history of growing stuff
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Post by essexstokey on Apr 22, 2019 21:10:35 GMT
Quite how you can call anyone "Dumb" after that illiterate rant is incredible in itself. And what on earth is an unmoral government. That is right up there with your made up word sexisum. For someone with a law degree you are really quite stupid. He doesn't have a law degree Thanks I thought of correcting it but couldn't be bothered as id stated it was a business degree and business law that id studied
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Post by mattyd on Apr 23, 2019 10:32:10 GMT
He doesn't have a law degree Thanks I thought of correcting it but couldn't be bothered as id stated it was a business degree and business law that id studied Either way for someone with a degree you are rather illiterate.
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Post by thevoid on Apr 23, 2019 10:40:28 GMT
He doesn't have a law degree Thanks I thought of correcting it but couldn't be bothered as id stated it was a business degree and business law that id studied But you've done nothing with it. Did yiu complete the course, Joey?
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Post by bigjohnritchie on May 26, 2019 20:57:59 GMT
Labour, not only are they not taking a lead whatsoever, they are as divided as the Tories.... Like many others my dislike of Labour is largely out of frustration. Now I think that they may make the Lib Dems seem credible....I really can't stand them.
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Post by Deleted on May 28, 2019 11:57:48 GMT
Not going well for Labour just at the moment. link"The Equality and Human Rights Commission has launched a formal investigation into the Labour Party over allegations of anti-Semitism. The watchdog told the party in March it had received a number of complaints and was considering its next steps. It will now formally look into whether Labour has "unlawfully discriminated against, harassed or victimised people because they are Jewish".
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Post by Deleted on May 28, 2019 18:23:44 GMT
Not going well for Labour just at the moment. link"The Equality and Human Rights Commission has launched a formal investigation into the Labour Party over allegations of anti-Semitism. The watchdog told the party in March it had received a number of complaints and was considering its next steps. It will now formally look into whether Labour has "unlawfully discriminated against, harassed or victimised people because they are Jewish". Should be looked into in great detail. As should the Tory islamophobia complaints that have been sent to them today by the Muslim Council of Britain. All discrimination is abhorrent......
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Post by questionable on May 28, 2019 19:06:04 GMT
Won't get involved in Brexit cross party talks unless the 'no deal' is off the table. Half of his voters wanted a no deal Brexit didn't they He's not interested in his voters, just the 400,000 party members, 'mostly' young people, who'll end up as tories once Uni has finished! That’s true it’s hammered into them at Uni that Labour are their only option and why they should vote for them and the Tories are basically evil. For young educated people they are pretty stupid
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Post by harryburrows on May 28, 2019 19:14:50 GMT
He's not interested in his voters, just the 400,000 party members, 'mostly' young people, who'll end up as tories once Uni has finished! That’s true it’s hammered into them at Uni that Labour are their only option and why they should vote for them and the Tories are basically evil. For young educated people they are pretty stupid Book smart is not the same as being educated , that takes time and experience. Ask llilfraise 😉
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