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Post by durbanscircus on Dec 18, 2018 21:40:06 GMT
Appreciate the considered response. Some interesting points there, ones which I'd not previously thought of. I've followed Stoke for coming up for 50 years now, home and away. I was a young lad in the 70's when hooliganism was at it's height. I saw it up close and personal on many occasions following Stoke away. Apart from the likes of Crawley, Stevenage and such late arrivals to the EFL I've seen Stoke at all the established grounds in all four divisions. I'd say Millwall had an almost unique atmosphere. There's always an air of menace about the place like no other ground, particularly at Cold Blow Lane. No matter how hard you tried to mingle or blend in and avoid any sort of nonsense you always felt like you stuck out like a sore thumb. Almost guaranteed you'd get sussed at some point. The only other place I'd say was similar in the 70's & 80's was probably trips to Liverpool or Everton in that you'd more than likely get sussed out. The difference being at Millwall you'd get a good slapping, with the bin dipping car thieves there was a chance you'd get slashed. (Didn't Millwall come unstuck at Everton in the early 70's in a FA cup game?) Anyway we're older and wiser now (hopefully) and the worst excesses of the 70's are just distant memories thankfully. Enjoy the game but not the result Saturday. Everton early 70's one of ours got stabbed and I think we had a long walk back to the station in the rain. Scroobius encapsulates very well 'The Lions Den' I think London Lions memory has failed him here...Millwall went in the Gwladays Street Everton and were wiped out- nine stabbed I think. They were traumatised by the experience. I dont think any team fared well at Liverpool or Everton and if they say they did...they are probably bull shitting
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Post by bathstoke on Dec 18, 2018 21:58:17 GMT
He's a racist degenerate. First I’d heard. Where’s your proof? You saying what he did tackling armed terrorists wasn’t brave? Friend of mine who lives south of the river says that typical of Millwall fronting a gooner with a🔪after being on the sauce all day... Gooners eh!
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Post by daz2631 on Dec 19, 2018 8:48:35 GMT
Message to londonlion i hope you can help me been working in london this week coming back home saturday and going match any idea what time you lot coming up on train ? as dont fancy being on train with you lot and palarse probably be on same train ?
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Post by flea79 on Dec 19, 2018 9:17:21 GMT
If the truth be told I've always had a bit of a soft spot for Millwall, always used to look for their results, particularly in the days of Harry Cripps, Eamon Dunphy (who I might add wrote one of the best books about football, Only A Game?), Barry Kitchener, Derek Possee and so on. Genuine question, why do you reckon Millwall have always had their deserved reputation for being, shall we say, a bit lively? There have been instances of crowd trouble at Millwall going back years, well before it became widespread in the 60's and 70's. Wasn't there an instance of the old Den being closed due to crowd trouble in 1920's? What is it about SE London that makes them so uppity when it comes to football? Most clubs have had their moments at some time or other but with Millwall it seems to have been the norm from day one almost. Harry Cripps and Co was my generation, a great time back then, and yes Eamon Dunphy’s book was probably ahead of its time. He is a journo in Ireland now, fell out big time with Jack Charlton when he was managing them. In fact Charlton wouldn’t do any press conferences if Eamon was in the room. I met him once as a player, we were on our way to Doncaster, the team used the same train as the support, Dunphy the fiery little Irishman grabbed my mate by the throat and accused him of nicking his fags and lighter. How times have changed. Crowd trouble and Millwall have always gone hand in hand, the reasons why are fairly complex. As I said in a previous post South East London has up until recently almost been a forgotten part of the capital, Millwall geographically is the closest ground to the City, yet developers have filled their boots from the 70’s onwards with the West, North and East. I have always thought that poor transport links is part of this, meaning no underground, over ground trains which are not nearly extensive as the tube or there are busses on the increasingly clogged roads. Add to this the way the local authority truly fucked up housing by wiping out vast areas of streets and building Sky blocks that fell apart after 25 years. This modern day or post war. This doesn’t really address the distinctive mentality of this corner of London that has always had an edge and been prepared to ‘ave it with one and all. I’m not really talking modern day here, although without the authoritative and intrusive cameras many would definitely step up and still do. Bristol came last season into Bermz, early in their minibuses to drink in our pubs, it didn't end well for them. As a consequence our game at their place a few weeks back got moved to 1:30 on a Sunday, the advanced party on the Saturday night in Brizzle had a bit of fun. So to an extent the uppity as you put it still exists. There is an almost unique culture and identity that falls within a few boroughs of our manor, this identity is passed on through families despite many moving away. When you consider there are four clubs with a 5 mile radius, unassuming Charlton wombling Wimbledon, suburban Palace and then us. How can we be so different? I get everyone wants to be special or different and to a point every club is, probably not quite like us though, don’t want to get carried away here as this is a Stoke forum and there is not enough room to analyse the culture and subculture of the following of my club. Although I could quite easily expand all of this...zzzzzzzz This isn't meant to be a punchy post, I'm sure all will be fine on Saturday other than our lot on the pitch surrendering and you helping yourself to all the points. have you heard of registered charity 1863? well you will have met them on saturday!
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Post by londonlion on Dec 19, 2018 9:24:59 GMT
First I’d heard. Where’s your proof? You saying what he did tackling armed terrorists wasn’t brave? Friend of mine who lives south of the river says that typical of Millwall fronting a gooner with a🔪after being on the sauce all day... Gooners eh! I was going to try to keep out of this. Roy may or may not be a racist, the video says he is although the context of this doesn't show what went on beforehand. Your friend south of the river doesn't know Millwall if he thinks we are racist, a term that is often levelled at us, I sit amongst a real mixture of people colour wise and I can't remember the last time I heard any racism from Millwall support home or away. Don't want to be loading up Scroobius vid's all the time, 1:04 of poetry that shows Sky Sports thinking we're racist.
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Post by scfc75 on Dec 19, 2018 9:32:54 GMT
Friend of mine who lives south of the river says that typical of Millwall fronting a gooner with a🔪after being on the sauce all day... Gooners eh! I was going to try to keep out of this. Roy may or may not be a racist, the video says he is although the context of this doesn't show what went on beforehand. Your friend south of the river doesn't know Millwall if he thinks we are racist, a term that is often levelled at us, I sit amongst a real mixture of people colour wise and I can't remember the last time I heard any racism from Millwall support home or away. Don't want to be loading up Scroobius vid's all the time, 1:04 of poetry that shows Sky Sports thinking we're racist. To be fair mate saying ‘Milwall are racist’ is as lazy as saying ‘Stoke are thugs’ after a few of our dickheads smashed Vale up a few weeks ago. Or saying all Chelsea fans are racist because they’ve had a few incidents over the years. All clubs have their dickheads. I think clubs like ours, yours etc still have an element of negativity attached based on the past, and the present misdemeanours of the few.
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Post by londonlion on Dec 19, 2018 9:41:47 GMT
Message to londonlion i hope you can help me been working in london this week coming back home saturday and going match any idea what time you lot coming up on train ? as dont fancy being on train with you lot and palarse probably be on same train ? Sorry officer can't help you, as it happens I travel on my own and not with another 'lot'.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 19, 2018 9:47:51 GMT
Friend of mine who lives south of the river says that typical of Millwall fronting a gooner with a🔪after being on the sauce all day... Gooners eh! I was going to try to keep out of this. Roy may or may not be a racist, the video says he is although the context of this doesn't show what went on beforehand. Your friend south of the river doesn't know Millwall if he thinks we are racist, a term that is often levelled at us, I sit amongst a real mixture of people colour wise and I can't remember the last time I heard any racism from Millwall support home or away. Don't want to be loading up Scroobius vid's all the time, 1:04 of poetry that shows Sky Sports thinking we're racist. Nobody said Millwall are racist here.
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Post by napperwainwright on Dec 20, 2018 3:35:18 GMT
Some Millwall scum were causing trouble in Bristol on the Friday night before the game against Bristol City-wonder if they`ll pop up Hanley this Friday? I realise that such things always have to be taken with a pinch of salt, but I was told on Friday by someone who's going that "A lot are going up for Friday night." Mmmmm so some will be here for the traditional Black Eye Friday "celebrations".
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Post by fishlovesoatcakes on Dec 20, 2018 7:58:55 GMT
I realise that such things always have to be taken with a pinch of salt, but I was told on Friday by someone who's going that "A lot are going up for Friday night." Mmmmm so some will be here for the traditional Black Eye Friday "celebrations". Jesus Christ, they would need a fucking army if they're going to try and give it the big one in places like Hanley and Newcastle on the Friday before Christmas. So, if you're a Millwall fan reading this and are planning on coming to cause trouble on Friday, you're a lot braver than me...
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Post by Mr_DaftBurger on Dec 20, 2018 8:51:26 GMT
Message to londonlion i hope you can help me been working in london this week coming back home saturday and going match any idea what time you lot coming up on train ? as dont fancy being on train with you lot and palarse probably be on same train ? Sorry officer can't help you, as it happens I travel on my own and not with another 'lot'. Can't you give him a lift then?
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Post by daz2631 on Dec 20, 2018 12:51:37 GMT
Its ok now finished job early coming back friday on train with my 2 work mates.so i will be able do my other job on turnstiles at stoke
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Post by Deleted on Dec 20, 2018 14:39:50 GMT
Its ok now finished job early coming back friday on train with my 2 work mates.so i will be able do my other job on turnstiles at stoke Thanks for the update Daz.
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Post by bullerboy on Dec 20, 2018 18:26:47 GMT
Is that lad who tackled those Islamic nutters and got put in hospital coming on Saturday (Roy?). If he is he should walk around the pitch at half time and get a round of applause He's a racist degenerate. I presume you know him i dont, but what i do know is that he was sitting in a busy pub when the terrorists burst in , whilst others quite rightly tried to flee Roy didnt he hurled abuse at them and attacked them sustaining severe injuries . Since then many people have been honoured by our Nation ( rightly in my opinion ) including a man who threw a bread tray at them. Roys actions have not been acknowledged or mentioned in the various honours ceremonies since.It is like his actiond have been airbrushed from history. I presume that the authorities are ignoring him over the dreaded evil word RACISTthat has been hurled at him by people like you. I again presume you are the sort of person who will say that you cant be a hero or act heroically and have your actions acclaimed because you called a black bloke A nasty name in the past. Take a good look at yourself before you label a very brave bloke a degenerate racist because he doesnt fit In with the thinking of the snowflake generation
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Post by boru on Dec 21, 2018 1:31:46 GMT
Friend of mine who lives south of the river says that typical of Millwall fronting a gooner with a🔪after being on the sauce all day... Gooners eh! I was going to try to keep out of this. Roy may or may not be a racist, the video says he is although the context of this doesn't show what went on beforehand. Your friend south of the river doesn't know Millwall if he thinks we are racist, a term that is often levelled at us, I sit amongst a real mixture of people colour wise and I can't remember the last time I heard any racism from Millwall support home or away. Don't want to be loading up Scroobius vid's all the time, 1:04 of poetry that shows Sky Sports thinking we're racist. I think I heard that Roy is a son of immigrants ??
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Post by boru on Dec 21, 2018 1:34:05 GMT
Its ok now finished job early coming back friday on train with my 2 work mates.so i will be able do my other job on turnstiles at stoke Officer get you and the two work mates to the airports to help out with the so called drone problem. (
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Post by JoeinOz on Dec 21, 2018 5:42:32 GMT
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Post by londonlion on Dec 21, 2018 7:31:33 GMT
Its ok now finished job early coming back friday on train with my 2 work mates.so i will be able do my other job on turnstiles at stoke Officer get you and the two work mates to the airports to help out with the so called drone problem. ( Daz, After sorting the drones at the airport can you let us know what other constabulary forces Staffordshire Plod are planning on using on Saturday? Sort of makes a difference as we have a special relationship with West Midland and South Yorkshire Plod, come to think of it that lot at M'Boro last away game were excitable. Thanks in advance.
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Post by fishlovesoatcakes on Dec 21, 2018 7:41:19 GMT
Officer get you and the two work mates to the airports to help out with the so called drone problem. ( Daz, After sorting the drones at the airport can you let us know what other constabulary forces Staffordshire Plod are planning on using on Saturday? Sort of makes a difference as we have a special relationship with West Midland and South Yorkshire Plod, come to think of it that lot at M'Boro last away game were excitable. Thanks in advance. Merseyside police are being drafted in. This is following on from intelligence received at the end of last week.
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Post by daz2631 on Dec 21, 2018 9:07:42 GMT
What a bunch of wankers you lot are i aint oldbill never have been never will be infact one of the original under5s for my sins now alot older and more sensible.original post was a genuine question as didnt want get stuck with millwall fans as happened before last time millwall came in town and i got nicked and ended up with big fine
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Post by londonlion on Dec 21, 2018 10:02:00 GMT
Daz, After sorting the drones at the airport can you let us know what other constabulary forces Staffordshire Plod are planning on using on Saturday? Sort of makes a difference as we have a special relationship with West Midland and South Yorkshire Plod, come to think of it that lot at M'Boro last away game were excitable. Thanks in advance. Merseyside police are being drafted in. This is following on from intelligence received at the end of last week. Intel from Merseyside, ha…..your be lucky to get more than three words strung together without eh-eh-eh, alright la, before they launch into telling everyone how hard done by they all are.
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Post by shaunyboyrb5 on Dec 21, 2018 14:03:00 GMT
Looks like they might be bringing a few to our place at long last This fixture has the makings of a great game.. Christmas holidays, passionate supporters, club rivalries, a Stoke team progressing, Lets bring our away game atmosphere to the bet 365 tomorrow!!! .... If stoke go down, we all go down!!!!
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Post by lordb on Dec 21, 2018 14:03:05 GMT
Anyway enough about wanking over violence what about the actual football! Everything I have seen from Millwall fans suggests they expect to lose and lose heavily and yet we haven't scored more than two a game.
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Post by jezzascfc on Dec 21, 2018 15:53:38 GMT
I thought this was a football match!??!?!
I'd like Rowett to be a tad bolder in his selection to go all out for the win to set us up for a good Christmas/New Year run. Saido, Tom and Benny up front (but with Tom left, Saido middle and Benny right), Sam, Joe and Ryan in midfield. We should be too good for them.
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Post by londonlion on Dec 21, 2018 16:16:03 GMT
Anyway enough about wanking over violence what about the actual football! Everything I have seen from Millwall fans suggests they expect to lose and lose heavily and yet we haven't scored more than two a game. We’ve been abject, we come expecting the worst. However we are Wall, just when we it’s all going wrong we could pull something out of the hat.
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Dec 21, 2018 16:43:20 GMT
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Post by boru on Dec 21, 2018 18:28:48 GMT
What a bunch of wankers you lot are i aint oldbill never have been never will be infact one of the original under5s for my sins now alot older and more sensible.original post was a genuine question as didnt want get stuck with millwall fans as happened before last time millwall came in town and i got nicked and ended up with big fine Chill out Dibble,you well never make detective with that attitude
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Post by tomjoneslovechild on Dec 21, 2018 18:52:40 GMT
Millwall head to the bet365 Stadium on Saturday afternoon to take on Stoke City in the Sky Bet Championship (kick-off 3pm).
off their website:
The Lions are still winless on the road in 2018/19, but have come close in recent weeks, scoring six times in their last three away trips, most recently being narrowly defeated 3-2 by Preston North End.
Millwall boss Neil Harris will be without the services of Tom Bradshaw and Shaun Williams - with the latter working towards a return to fitness in the new year - whilst Jiri Skalak will be assessed after missing the journey to Deepdale through illness.
Around 1,450 fans will make the trip to Stoke this Saturday, but if you are not one of them, full match commentary will be available on iFollow Millwall from around 2.50pm. International subscribers can also watch all the action from the Potteries on iFollow. Click here for more details.
Both Harris and Aiden O'Brien have been speaking to millwallfc.co.uk in the build-up to this weekend's encounter, whilst you can find all the relevant information and statistics on Saturday's opponents by clicking the links.
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Post by claytonscrubs on Dec 21, 2018 21:30:31 GMT
I’m looking forward to this, should be a good atmosphere for a change.... If we maintain the same positive attitude we showed against Villa, I’m going for 2-0 win.... If not, a frustrating 1-1 or another desmond.
No silly fisticuffs boys and girls, let’s just concentrate on the football, and send those Cockney twats home empty handed!
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Post by napperwainwright on Dec 21, 2018 21:35:23 GMT
Looks like they might be bringing a few to our place at long last This fixture has the makings of a great game.. Christmas holidays, passionate supporters, club rivalries, a Stoke team progressing, Lets bring our away game atmosphere to the bet 365 tomorrow!!! .... If stoke go down, we all go down!!!! When Stoke go down we're on the TOWN!!!
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