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Post by potterinleeds on Jan 2, 2019 16:32:32 GMT
That’s Reg Varney off On the buses, What does he know!?! Isn’t Derby a Viking word, thus excluding it from Saxon Mercia... Indeed, and in its Old English spelling apparently derives from 'village or settlement of / with the deer'. I think some argue that it is a corruption of the original name Derventio given to the Roman fort / settlement on the same site. TBH Bath, it's not a book that makes a lot of sense, and I don't know why they shoe-horned a lot of Lancashire / West Yorkshire stuff in at the end either. But I enjoy a bit of esoterica every now and then. Colin Wilson and Reg Varney - now there's a combination to conjure with. The sort of bus ride I'd like to take …….
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Post by bathstoke on Jan 2, 2019 16:42:21 GMT
That’s Reg Varney off On the buses, What does he know!?! Isn’t Derby a Viking word, thus excluding it from Saxon Mercia... Indeed, and in its Old English spelling apparently derives from 'village or settlement of / with the deer'. I think some argue that it is a corruption of the original name Derventio given to the Roman fort / settlement on the same site. TBH Bath, it's not a book that makes a lot of sense, and I don't know why they shoe-horned a lot of Lancashire / West Yorkshire stuff in at the end either. But I enjoy a bit of esoterica every now and then. Colin Wilson and Reg Varney - now there's a combination to conjure with. The sort of bus ride I'd like to take ……. Oh this is so appropriate
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Post by cheeesfreeex on Jan 2, 2019 18:42:46 GMT
You seem to have an interest in the mysterious, have you any knowledge regarding Star Forts musik ? That voice is a bit creepy, Cheesefreex, and what is it with the chocolate pudding in the middle? As far as I'm aware, the sticking out bits are generally referred to as bastions and I think the ditch is a glacis, but I might be wrong. I thought they were pioneered by the French military engineer Vauban in the later 1600s: whc.unesco.org/en/list/1283They pop up all over - funnily enough, I walked the line of the old medieval city wall and moat around Frankfurt last May, and this includes several of these triangular projections that were added to the earlier fortifications. I'm pretty sure that the Citadel at Hull had them too, again added to the medieval fortifications, although all remains are now below ground. To flip back a bit to landscape zodiacs, have you read Shirley Toulson 1980 Derbyshire: Exploring the Ancient Tracks and Mysteries of Mercia? There are chapters at the back on the supposed Northern landscape zodiacs around Pendle and Hebden Bride. I am rather skeptical myself, but I have walked some of the supposed Pendle one and it takes you through some lovely bleak moorland and lots of small villages with pubs, prehistoric monuments etc. Do you ever listen to / read the late Colin Wilson? I like some of his takes on consciousness, other dimensions etc. Yeah I've come across this Wilson in the context of his 'criminology', as I recall nuanced Freudian stuff, not much consideration of societal/structural factors in crime etc. Not really delved much into his 'deeper' musings on consciousness tbh. Cheers for the Toulson tip, I've ordered the 'Derbyshire/Mercia' one and a book on 'Lost Trade Routes', cheap. Yes the voice on the vid is creepy, a lot of the stuff on Star Forts, Mudflood, alternative histories is a tad weird. Quite unnerving. Always been interested in history and mystery. I now think there is something going on re Ley Lines, or more appropriately, there was something going on. There appears to be a spider's web of 'energy' lines connecting ancient standing stones/megalithic monuments, churches, landscape features, and more modern buildings apparently sited purposefully on a 'perceived' ley. These seem to be connected to, but distinct from the big earth energy lines {St. Michael/Margaret} and the spine of Albion, Belinus, which appears to follow the 'fault' line of the Pennines etc. It's more than coincidence imo. Hamlets, farms etc seem to cling to these lines too. There are parallels to Aboriginal 'song/dream' lines, Pilgrim's paths/chant lines etc etc. Of course it's based on assumptions and shaky shit like divining. I've roped a few folk in onto this quest. {A mate with all sorts of electro-magnetic/electric etc testing equipment, a mate with a metal detector, and a couple of curious enthusiasts.} Famous Five nearly! We've had maps out {old and new}, tracked possible/theoretical Leys etc. I've tracked one that intersects Arbor Low, following Doug Pickford's theoretical Phoenician Copper/Tin/Lead BC trade route to the west coast {following the Dane etc}. It sort of lines up with a site on Anglesey, but more interestingly for me it goes first to the Wirral coast {nb. before the diversion of the Weaver and the Manchester Ship Canal}, it passes through a now landlocked village, that I believe in those days would have been on the estuary, it's called More... I don't think it's much of a stretch to think it may once have been a mooring place, prior to sailing back to the Med {via Anglesey then Cornwall etc.} BC trading routes, mining, industry in the Peaks etc. There's more, as they say. Star Forts are v. interesting indeed, originally more than just an elaborate defensive thing, easier and more effective ways to achieve that. Strangely fractal in design. I'm tending to believe the rather controversial theory that there was a 'lost' civilisation who developed a better relationship with the earth and it's not so subtle energies of vibration and electro magnetism, all that orgone energy etc. And I think the Ley Lines are an integral part of this. A load of Teslas before their time, tall towers, spires, copper {onion} domes. Specific quartz rich stone. I'm out to debunk this as much as owt. As a working hypothesis it remains unshaken so far. Efforts upped in the NY. It's interesting stuff and whatever the outcome it's opened up loads of different aspects of history, and a few good walks and mooching in fascinating places. Until this latest bit of head scratching and sniffing I was unaware of the history and interesting tale of Biddulph Grange and it's gardens.. links to Darwin and Dinosaurs and stuff. Knypersley, more specifically Gawton's Well and Druid Stones {and giant Dolman {passed off as Victorian folly}} are on a ley. Whether that's an arbitrary straight line that connects such places, or these places have been located to draw on/enhance/subdue/reflect/perpetuate some kind of energy. At the moment I'm tracking the old monks' trail{s} from Hulton Abbey to Delacroix Abbey in Leek, whether it could be part of a Ley etc. Found a nice 1775 map which gives some clues to the probable first part of the route, up Woodhead {no through} Road. Ever wondered why medieval churches were constructed without heating systems? Did they only use them in summer? Shit like that has always had me intrigued. Just re reading Robert MacFarlane 'The Old Ways'.
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Post by potterinleeds on Jan 2, 2019 21:01:35 GMT
It's interesting stuff and whatever the outcome it's opened up loads of different aspects of history, and a few good walks and mooching in fascinating places.Couldn't agree more. IMO, one of the great losses of modern archaeology has been the gradual running down of the old-school field clubs, where people went out and spent time investigating stuff purely because it was interesting. Has all become a bit corporate over the last 30 years - a necessary thing to get money in, but has lost some of its charm in the process, I feel. Although I don't hold with all of it, there are some interesting threads amongst modern antiquarianism. I can't remember if I'd recommended these before, but you might also like (assuming you don't already have them): Anthony Roberts 1978 Sowers of Thunder: Giants in Myth and History - giant folklore, geomancy etc Michael Dames 1996 The Avebury Cycle - winter goddesses, stone rivers etc Robert Graves 1952 The White Goddess (1999 Grevel Lindop edition) - a proper doorstep of a book, very good for dipping into on winter evenings Graham Robb 2013 The Ancient Paths: Discovering the Lost Map of Celtic Europe - loads on Britain too, meridians, Belinus, the Four Royal Roads etc. I notice that a Roman road grouped with the latter went through Leeds - no doubt the natives would add Elland Road as a fifth 'royal' road. Maybe you and your interested group might consider writing a Staffordshire version of Guy Ragland Phillips 1976 Brigantia: A Mysteriography? Although mostly Yorkshire based, his definition of Brigantia was pretty wide ranging and included parts of Cheshire and Staffordshire. He has a little map with the Belinus Line passing through Alderley Edge and just east of Congleton; if you project his line (crudely, I know), it appears to pass through the middle of Stafford, although I'm not sure I've got that right.
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Post by cheeesfreeex on Jan 5, 2019 1:44:30 GMT
It's interesting stuff and whatever the outcome it's opened up loads of different aspects of history, and a few good walks and mooching in fascinating places.Couldn't agree more. IMO, one of the great losses of modern archaeology has been the gradual running down of the old-school field clubs, where people went out and spent time investigating stuff purely because it was interesting. Has all become a bit corporate over the last 30 years - a necessary thing to get money in, but has lost some of its charm in the process, I feel. Although I don't hold with all of it, there are some interesting threads amongst modern antiquarianism. I can't remember if I'd recommended these before, but you might also like (assuming you don't already have them): Anthony Roberts 1978 Sowers of Thunder: Giants in Myth and History - giant folklore, geomancy etc Michael Dames 1996 The Avebury Cycle - winter goddesses, stone rivers etc Robert Graves 1952 The White Goddess (1999 Grevel Lindop edition) - a proper doorstep of a book, very good for dipping into on winter evenings Graham Robb 2013 The Ancient Paths: Discovering the Lost Map of Celtic Europe - loads on Britain too, meridians, Belinus, the Four Royal Roads etc. I notice that a Roman road grouped with the latter went through Leeds - no doubt the natives would add Elland Road as a fifth 'royal' road. Maybe you and your interested group might consider writing a Staffordshire version of Guy Ragland Phillips 1976 Brigantia: A Mysteriography? Although mostly Yorkshire based, his definition of Brigantia was pretty wide ranging and included parts of Cheshire and Staffordshire. He has a little map with the Belinus Line passing through Alderley Edge and just east of Congleton; if you project his line (crudely, I know), it appears to pass through the middle of Stafford, although I'm not sure I've got that right. The Mappa Mundi on mock canvas vellum arrived this morn, but the Toulson books ain't found their way here yet. I've holidayed in Goathland a few times, I'm sure it's near there somewhere hhere there's a crazy cross moor 'Roman road', cobbled, middle of nowhere for miles. The 'how's and why's' blow my mind, never mind the 'when's'. Cheers for the book references.. won't pretend I'll search them all out... got plenty to go at.. but they're clocked if I come across them in a Charity shop or summat. Thumbs up. The Belinus.. theoretical male/female 'energy' lines... go south in summer, sort of migrate {like birds etc} apparently... Serpent or dragon type interweaving 'energies' not really a straight line on the ground, but follow a rough line, up and down the spine of Albion.. Whereas the perpendicular leys seem far more geometric/straight. etc. man-designed? Yes apparently if it exists, the Belinus passes backwards and forwards through Alderley Edge {maybe why the rich and famous huddle there?}, seems to go through the Cloud, then Arbor Low, and I reckon there's a branch/vein/ley off to the east too, through the former Handley Green and perhaps past Hilton Abbey, {now known as Hanley and Hulton} and on. The Gary Biltcliffe vid above tracks it through Walley outside Manc {purportive centre of Britain}, then Burn ley etc... Our 'group' are jokers. Whilst leafing through Charles Walkers' 'Strange Britain'.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 5, 2019 13:22:53 GMT
Alfred Watkins wrote some of the best early books on Ley lines, probably in the 1920’s. I’d have to check the dates to be sure.
‘Early British trackways’ and ‘The Old Straight Track’ are two of his ive read. Some interesting stuff in there 👍
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Post by cheeesfreeex on Jan 5, 2019 14:52:30 GMT
Alfred Watkins wrote some of the best early books on Ley lines, probably in the 1920’s. I’d have to check the dates to be sure. ‘Early British trackways’ and ‘The Old Straight Track’ are two of his ive read. Some interesting stuff in there 👍 'The Old Straight Track' is class, read it some time ago, a mate's had a copy for Crimbo, I'm next in the queue for a re-read. Fascinating stuff. Hugh Newman {Megolithic mania} points out the Belinus Line and a 3,4,5 triangle connecting Arbor Low, Stonehenge and Bryn Celli Ddu on Anglesey. {A line which appears to intersect 'More' on the Wirral as suspected, potterinleeds.
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Post by potterinleeds on Jan 5, 2019 20:03:03 GMT
Alfred Watkins wrote some of the best early books on Ley lines, probably in the 1920’s. I’d have to check the dates to be sure. ‘Early British trackways’ and ‘The Old Straight Track’ are two of his ive read. Some interesting stuff in there 👍 Hugh Newman {Megolithic mania} points out the Belinus Line and a 3,4,5 triangle connecting Arbor Low, Stonehenge and Bryn Celli Ddu on Anglesey. {A line which appears to intersect 'More' on the Wirral as suspected, potterinleeds . There's a lot on Anglesey in that Graham Robb (2013 The Ancient Paths: Discovering the Lost Map of Celtic Europe) book that I mentioned above. He notes the importance of it as a pre-Roman religious centre and, from Roman sources, their perception of it as radiating what they perceived as occult power. Also suggests the convergence of a number of what he describes as solstice lines / solar paths on the hillfort of Dinas Emrys, which guards the pass from the mainland to Anglesey and is postulated by some as the site of the final battle in AD51 between Caratacus and the Roman forces. Lots of strange early medieval legends centre on it too, such as the 'Throne of Britain' being buried up there. A friend of mine makes a similar argument for the prehistoric remains on the summit of Ingleborough, North Yorkshire (supposedly England's highest hill fort, although I'm not convinced it was ever a hill fort). All the temporary springs / intermittent water sources around the top of the mountain are named after early British saints with a reputation for fighting demons in high places - she suggests that it was once a holy mountain in prehistory, and that the early British Church made a deputation up there fairly soon after Christianity was established to essentially exorcise the place. When you start to add up the number of prehistoric burial mounds that appear to have a visual relationship with the mountain, and the fact that it was one of the first pieces of land locally to project above the ice as the last lot of glaciers retreated, you have the possibility that it was considered of significance for thousands of years before the Romans arrived. Fascinating stuff. Might have naff all to do with energy lines in actuality, but perhaps offers us a glimpse into our most ancient beliefs.
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Post by cheeesfreeex on Jan 13, 2019 18:30:54 GMT
Starting to wonder whether the Star Fort phenomenon may be linked into earth energy/resonance, ley lines/nodes, and cymatics. The 'right' substrate structure which can respond to earth resonances. Man then go on to build on them following the outline. Maybe something similar happens regarding the huge hill forts around Britain.
And may also go some way to explaining crop circles.
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Post by cheeesfreeex on Jan 13, 2019 18:34:57 GMT
Silbury Hill, thought to be Europe's largest man made mound. I like this more 'natural' explanation.
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Post by cheeesfreeex on Apr 7, 2019 13:15:24 GMT
The creative power of Sound.
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Post by cheeesfreeex on Apr 7, 2019 13:21:46 GMT
A matter of matter
Water memory, consciousness, intention.
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Post by cheeesfreeex on Apr 7, 2019 13:26:40 GMT
Feelings
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Post by cheeesfreeex on Apr 7, 2019 13:57:47 GMT
Plasma
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Post by cheeesfreeex on Apr 7, 2019 14:22:53 GMT
One of my lads is a geophysicist, he ain't found any leylines under the ground yet Ley Lines/energy lines are waves, electromagnetic frequency lines. They don't simply lie on the floor, they're dynamic day/night and seemingly seasonal. Emitting energy fields extending up and down. {Increasing proof they extend up towards {to/from} the Sun in places {around volcanic sites}. Has he got the right equipment to detect them? Has he looked for them? It's been seen as a pseudoscience but is increasingly getting 'scientific' credibility. All the big mineral companies use divining, the work of Geologist Rory Duff included above is interesting. To him Ley/Energy lines are a science {he made a profession out of it.} I know they're a thing. Birds etc use magnetic crystals in their retinas to navigate/migrate {Cryptocrystals} etc etc. Ancient stone circles/churches were built on them/the nodes of Leys.
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Post by cheeesfreeex on May 31, 2019 22:10:12 GMT
Thomas Sheridan's take on Ley Lines. Getting there...
Current fave, Anthony Murphy MysticalIreland, picking up interesting alignements in the Irish Megalithic landscape.
Landscape Zodiacs, Mary Caine's magical mystery and history tour of Kingston.. Poetry.
Interesting stuff regarding the 'secret societies', their relationship to the Michael/Margaret lines, the marvellous Margaret of 'Oxo' Maltwood, Dion Fortune etc.
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Post by cheeesfreeex on Jun 7, 2019 23:10:29 GMT
More Thorley.. Zodiacs, archetypes, synchronicities etc. A lot of John Wood and Bath stuff Bath@bathstoke.
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Post by trentvale68 on Jun 7, 2019 23:52:17 GMT
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Post by cheeesfreeex on Jun 8, 2019 21:10:18 GMT
I'm inherently cynical about anyone so quick to monetize 'knowledge' and remain particularly unconvinced by the content provided by Cyrus but I have joined up. But I am a bit consumed with researching the meaning of life to be able to concern mesen too much with what comes after, for the moment. Cheers.
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Post by cheeesfreeex on Jun 13, 2019 17:47:29 GMT
It serves as a gentle introduction to his thing. If it piqued yr interest I'll park these for your perusal at your peril leisure.. Oxo. With a few picture etc. Not so much about Zodiac's, more on the Ley angle. This one pays particular attention to Mow Cop, The Cloud etc. And honourable mentions for Bath. What does he say of Bath... blog.histouries.co.uk/2011/05/27/stonehenge-and-georgian-bath-bathing-with-the-druids/Up your street Bath?
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Post by bathstoke on Jun 13, 2019 18:20:33 GMT
More Thorley.. Zodiacs, archetypes, synchronicities etc. A lot of John Wood and Bath stuff Bath@bathstoke. Yeah, some years ago I used to go to a crusty story telling night in a local pub & the story of Bladud flying to Athens came up then 🏹
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Post by cheeesfreeex on Jun 14, 2019 18:15:10 GMT
Interesting stuff regarding the Pyramids. Increasing evidence that Heiroglyphs were/are a Napoleonic concoction...
De-Evolution???
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Post by cheeesfreeex on Jul 13, 2019 16:45:08 GMT
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Post by bathstoke on Jul 13, 2019 18:41:04 GMT
That’s got more to do with a remedy for your shorts/trousers riding up your @&$e than lay lines. But it’s a happy interlude to the warring factions on other threads. Good Work🌈
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Post by mattyd on Jul 14, 2019 10:05:42 GMT
Attachment DeletedDid you know that ancient sites like Easter Island, Nazca, Ollantaytambo, Paratoari, Tassili n’Ajjer and the Pyramids of Giza are all aligned on a single great circle? There is a mind-boggling connection among ancient structures that is indicative of a far greater meaning than we were aware of.
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Post by Goonie on Jul 16, 2019 7:02:01 GMT
Pareidolia (/pærɪˈdoʊliə/ parr-i-DOH-lee-ə) is the tendency to interpret a vague stimulus as something known to the observer, such as seeing shapes in clouds, seeing faces in inanimate objects or abstract patterns, or hearing hidden messages in music.
I used to have an open mind about things like this but I stopped habitual cannabis use and it all went away: connection? 🤔
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Post by estrangedsonoffaye on Jul 16, 2019 8:01:20 GMT
It's a fantastic exercise in Ramsey Theory.....
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Post by cheeesfreeex on Jul 16, 2019 18:24:26 GMT
That’s got more to do with a remedy for your shorts/trousers riding up your @&$e than lay lines. But it’s a happy interlude to the warring factions on other threads. Good Work🌈 Plain sight. ME Smith was extremely occultic and arcane, and privvy to Masonic lore {inc. The Leys of the Land}, the clue is in his name. etc.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 16, 2019 18:32:37 GMT
What in the flying fuck is this thread? ??? ???
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Post by cerebralstokie on Jul 16, 2019 18:44:19 GMT
What in the flying fuck is this thread? ??? ??? "This writing business, Pencils and what not. Over-rated if you ask me. Silly stuff. Nothing in it" Eeyore, from his Little Book of Gloom. (A constant companion of mine!)
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