|
France
Dec 10, 2018 17:15:13 GMT
Post by murphthesurf on Dec 10, 2018 17:15:13 GMT
I just heard more from my French friends and they are saying there's now a shortage of food in the supermarkets and less and less petrol and diesel for cars ! Macron's government have basically added fuel to the flames with their tax increases and the gilets jaunes operation was born about one month ago as a result. apparently it's now a co-ordinated movement across France and the situation has been made even worse due to looting as well with many just out to steal clothes, jewels, smartphones, everything in shops that they attack and destroy. Some of my friends live in Clermont-Ferrand in central France and they say it's not a good time to visit any part of France especially in biggest cities like Paris, Marseille, Lyon, Bordeaux etc. France is greatly divided over this - some are pushing for Macron to go but it appears the problem will remain whoever the President is, because they think it'll be the end of French institutions and democracy.. They say France has the highest level of taxes for everything, and immigration is a major problem. A lot of people in France have seen the U.K. vote for Brexit and want the same but they say it's also clear that our Parliament is trying everything possible to stop Brexit. My friends say there would be riots (again) in France if their government tried the same tactics. Bloody hell - great post, Dees, and there's some seriously bad stuff going on over there. I hope your friends will be okay. At least the dreadful riots over here - from memory was it 2011? - when there was mass looting, property damage and arson were relatively short-lived and were, compared with the current French situation, fairly restricted re. not spreading all that much. I wonder how long it will take to calm down over there? Your final paragraph is very interesting, btw.
|
|
|
Post by Deleted on Dec 10, 2018 17:33:31 GMT
I just heard more from my French friends and they are saying there's now a shortage of food in the supermarkets and less and less petrol and diesel for cars ! Macron's government have basically added fuel to the flames with their tax increases and the gilets jaunes operation was born about one month ago as a result. apparently it's now a co-ordinated movement across France and the situation has been made even worse due to looting as well with many just out to steal clothes, jewels, smartphones, everything in shops that they attack and destroy. Some of my friends live in Clermont-Ferrand in central France and they say it's not a good time to visit any part of France especially in biggest cities like Paris, Marseille, Lyon, Bordeaux etc. France is greatly divided over this - some are pushing for Macron to go but it appears the problem will remain whoever the President is, because they think it'll be the end of French institutions and democracy.. They say France has the highest level of taxes for everything, and immigration is a major problem. A lot of people in France have seen the U.K. vote for Brexit and want the same but they say it's also clear that our Parliament is trying everything possible to stop Brexit. My friends say there would be riots (again) in France if their government tried the same tactics. Bloody hell - great post, Dees, and there's some seriously bad stuff going on over there. I hope your friends will be okay. At least the dreadful riots over here - from memory was it 2011? - when there was mass looting, property damage and arson were relatively short-lived and were, compared with the current French situation, fairly restricted re. not spreading all that much. I wonder how long it will take to calm down over there? Your final paragraph is very interesting, btw. It's very interesting murph because my friends (ex-work colleagues) were always fairly middle of the road and had no real outspoken political views. Some voted for Macron but have since changed their opinion entirely, partly due to the tax rises but also some of his other policies. I don't know if what they say is really accurate or if it's just their own political bias. They've seen the unrest in Hungary and Poland about the EU, and have closely watched the U.K. situation over Brexit. They say there is a small but growing percentage (don't know how big) who want Frexit but they are sure there would be tremendous resistance from the French Government. However, they said there would be large scale riots if the Government/Parliament tried to thwart a Frexit majority, but as they half-jokingly said "that's not a problem because we have a history of riots in France" !
|
|
|
France
Dec 10, 2018 19:24:03 GMT
via mobile
Post by bigjohnritchie on Dec 10, 2018 19:24:03 GMT
At least Macron has got his problems
|
|
|
Post by starkiller on Dec 11, 2018 10:22:43 GMT
Every link on youtube is from globalist media if you search for it... These speak to real people.
|
|
|
France
Dec 11, 2018 20:48:32 GMT
Post by hoffgreen on Dec 11, 2018 20:48:32 GMT
Shootings reported in Strasbourg..... The religion of peace again at a guess....
|
|
|
France
Dec 11, 2018 22:11:46 GMT
Post by Deleted on Dec 11, 2018 22:11:46 GMT
3 dead, 11 injured plus gunman injured but escaped. Known to French authorities as a security risk, and they're treating it as a terrorist attack.
|
|
|
Post by bigjohnritchie on Dec 12, 2018 0:48:21 GMT
Get out of that without moving ( they will certainly want our £39b now....spend, spend, spend)
|
|
|
Post by henry on Dec 12, 2018 8:00:12 GMT
Get out of that without moving ( they will certainly want our £39b now....spend, spend, spend) Yep, let’s use the UK’s money to prop up a failing economy. Why does anyone want to be a part of this.
|
|
|
Post by The Drunken Communist on Dec 12, 2018 12:04:11 GMT
|
|
|
France
Dec 12, 2018 12:14:17 GMT
via mobile
Post by bigjohnritchie on Dec 12, 2018 12:14:17 GMT
I wonder if we could swap leaders, or has the transfer window closed?
|
|
|
Post by Mendicant on Dec 12, 2018 20:15:26 GMT
I used to live up Paris and worked in a French company for many years.
The French tend to blame everything on the government and globalisation. Much as I dislike their political elites including Macron, and sympathise with anyone out of a job in that high unemployment shit-hole, I find it unproductive that the man in the street can behave like an arrogant cunt to everyone then blame others for his struggles in making his way in the world.
I used to think of France as a second homeland. In the end I just got tired of all the arseholes there. Stoke is a better place to live than Paris.
|
|
|
France
Dec 12, 2018 22:24:06 GMT
Post by mrcoke on Dec 12, 2018 22:24:06 GMT
I worked for a French company for 8 years in County Durham. There was a clear unwritten rule, you only buy French equipment. On one occasion we ordered a large piece of mobile plant which was to be manufactured in France. Because of delays in construction it was agreed the supplier would provide a substitute plant from a French works till the new plant was built and delivered. The first problem identified was that the French plant did not comply with UK safety guarding regulations when it was viewed by the UK production manager visiting the works in France. The company building the new plant agreed they would arrange for a contractor to install guarding to UK standards when it was delivered. The temporary plant arrived on the due date and the next day a contractor started to fit guarding. The works electrical engineer went to inspect the plant and opened up the cabinets. He promptly condemned the plant as unusable because it did not comply with UK Electrical Regulations.
The plant stood idle for months till the new plant that was ordered to UK standards arrived. It was taken off the low-loader and the temporary one was loaded and went back to the French works to be used there again.
I could tell lots more stories relating to none observance of CE marking, flouting environmental rules, changing annual plan budgets mid year, French bosses demanding certain arrangements are observed in other countries, but not in French works.
I eventually found a job with an Anglo-Dutch company and handed in my notice.
|
|
|
France
Dec 16, 2018 22:21:27 GMT
via mobile
Post by bigjohnritchie on Dec 16, 2018 22:21:27 GMT
Pretty amazing really that the EU has " oversight" over our spending...... The yellow jackets have spawned imitation protests in several EU states and upset the calculations of a European elite that now faces a new set of problems in their eternal quest to secure the consent, passive or otherwise, to the rule of the rich. This is not just a French crisis, it is a crisis of management for the European Union. The source of Macron’s dilemma is the EU Stability and Growth Pact which arises from the 2007 Lisbon Treaty and gives the unelected EU Commission and the Council of Ministers oversight of spending by EU states. morningstaronline.co.uk/article/yellow-vests-get-under-eu-thick-skin
|
|
|
France
Dec 16, 2018 23:22:30 GMT
via mobile
Post by Timmypotter on Dec 16, 2018 23:22:30 GMT
I worked for a French company for 8 years in County Durham. There was a clear unwritten rule, you only buy French equipment. On one occasion we ordered a large piece of mobile plant which was to be manufactured in France. Because of delays in construction it was agreed the supplier would provide a substitute plant from a French works till the new plant was built and delivered. The first problem identified was that the French plant did not comply with UK safety guarding regulations when it was viewed by the UK production manager visiting the works in France. The company building the new plant agreed they would arrange for a contractor to install guarding to UK standards when it was delivered. The temporary plant arrived on the due date and the next day a contractor started to fit guarding. The works electrical engineer went to inspect the plant and opened up the cabinets. He promptly condemned the plant as unusable because it did not comply with UK Electrical Regulations. The plant stood idle for months till the new plant that was ordered to UK standards arrived. It was taken off the low-loader and the temporary one was loaded and went back to the French works to be used there again. I could tell lots more stories relating to none observance of CE marking, flouting environmental rules, changing annual plan budgets mid year, French bosses demanding certain arrangements are observed in other countries, but not in French works. I eventually found a job with an Anglo-Dutch company and handed in my notice. I worked for a French software company for 3 years. One thing I found very surprising was that, while they don't quite have a 'class' system in the way we do here, they can seem very elitist and anti-meritocracy. If you've been to the right lycee/ecole then you're set for life. If you haven't then you'll be overlooked regardless of ability.
|
|
|
France
Dec 18, 2018 12:11:53 GMT
Post by Northy on Dec 18, 2018 12:11:53 GMT
I used to live up Paris and worked in a French company for many years. The French tend to blame everything on the government and globalisation. Much as I dislike their political elites including Macron, and sympathise with anyone out of a job in that high unemployment shit-hole, I find it unproductive that the man in the street can behave like an arrogant cunt to everyone then blame others for his struggles in making his way in the world. I used to think of France as a second homeland. In the end I just got tired of all the arseholes there. Stoke is a better place to live than Paris. I was there about 2 years ago with work, the shanty towns were a bit of a shock, they kept them quiet. Outside the tourist central part, it is as you say, a bit of a shithole.
|
|
|
Post by bigjohnritchie on Dec 24, 2018 9:18:36 GMT
I think that images like this turn the people more against the state. It doesn't look good.
|
|
|
France
Dec 24, 2018 19:13:06 GMT
via mobile
Post by bigjohnritchie on Dec 24, 2018 19:13:06 GMT
Rome does seem to contrast Paris this Christmas Eve.
|
|
|
France
Dec 31, 2018 19:44:16 GMT
via mobile
Post by bigjohnritchie on Dec 31, 2018 19:44:16 GMT
|
|
|
France
Jan 2, 2019 23:07:01 GMT
via mobile
Post by bigjohnritchie on Jan 2, 2019 23:07:01 GMT
|
|
|
France
Jan 5, 2019 17:21:50 GMT
via mobile
Post by bigjohnritchie on Jan 5, 2019 17:21:50 GMT
Are we being told the full truth about France? Is Macron finished?
|
|
|
France
Jan 5, 2019 18:40:57 GMT
via mobile
Post by bigjohnritchie on Jan 5, 2019 18:40:57 GMT
It's not worth going to Paris at the moment. I'd imagine that this is not doing the bookings for holidays during the summer much good.
|
|
boru
Academy Starlet
Posts: 213
|
France
Jan 5, 2019 22:17:54 GMT
via mobile
Post by boru on Jan 5, 2019 22:17:54 GMT
I think that images like this turn the people more against the state. It doesn't look good. I was in the Wheatsheaf after the match last week and bump into a very good friend if mime, he lived in France, I prefer his version
|
|
|
Post by bigjohnritchie on Jan 5, 2019 22:20:25 GMT
|
|
|
Post by Deleted on Jan 5, 2019 22:41:48 GMT
My friends in Clermont-Ferrand said tonight that there have been more gilets jaunes protests in C-Fd again today but they haven't heard of any serious outbreaks of violence or police brutality like in those videos above. Macron apparently seemed to think his recent fuel and tax concessions would be enough to stop further protests. However the current protests are partly against the general cost of living and also there is a rapidly increasing move for a Frexit referendum which Macron is obviously desperate to put down.
Tout n'est pas tres bien en France aujourd'hui !! Tant pis !
|
|
|
Post by raythesailor on Jan 6, 2019 10:51:22 GMT
The fact that these riots and protests are VIRTUALLY UNREPORTED by our media is very disturbing.
It shows how we are manipulated by the media and press.
If these disturbing events were reported properly AS THEY DEFINITELY SHOULD BE, they would undoubtedly have an enormous effect on people’s opinions regarding the farcical goings on in Westminster re Brexit
For those who have not seen it just google France. Some people are calling it “on the brink of civil war”, people are dying on the streets, and from our media===SILENCE.
Reading the reports I noted talk of calls for FREXIT. A term I have never heard reported before.
|
|
|
Post by bigjohnritchie on Jan 6, 2019 11:16:33 GMT
The fact that these riots and protests are VIRTUALLY UNREPORTED by our media is very disturbing. It shows how we are manipulated by the media and press. If these disturbing events were reported properly AS THEY DEFINITELY SHOULD BE, they would undoubtedly have an enormous effect on people’s opinions regarding the farcical goings on in Westminster re Brexit For those who have not seen it just google France. Some people are calling it “on the brink of civil war”, people are dying on the streets, and from our media===SILENCE. Reading the reports I noted talk of calls for FREXIT. A term I have never heard reported before. That was my point really Ray. I'm not saying that all of France is rioting, but I am suspicious of what we are being told and what we are not being told ...I think it is in France, Macron and the EU to play any trouble down.... whether there is an agenda to exaggerate the events, I don't know. It's hard to know the truth these days
|
|
|
France
Jan 6, 2019 11:22:04 GMT
Post by murphthesurf on Jan 6, 2019 11:22:04 GMT
My friends in Clermont-Ferrand said tonight that there have been more gilets jaunes protests in C-Fd again today but they haven't heard of any serious outbreaks of violence or police brutality like in those videos above. Macron apparently seemed to think his recent fuel and tax concessions would be enough to stop further protests. However the current protests are partly against the general cost of living and also there is a rapidly increasing move for a Frexit referendum which Macron is obviously desperate to put down.Tout n'est pas tres bien en France aujourd'hui !! Tant pis ! WOW! D'accord ! Vive le Frexit !
|
|
|
Post by murphthesurf on Jan 6, 2019 11:30:41 GMT
The fact that these riots and protests are VIRTUALLY UNREPORTED by our media is very disturbing. It shows how we are manipulated by the media and press. If these disturbing events were reported properly AS THEY DEFINITELY SHOULD BE, they would undoubtedly have an enormous effect on people’s opinions regarding the farcical goings on in Westminster re BrexitFor those who have not seen it just google France. Some people are calling it “on the brink of civil war”, people are dying on the streets, and from our media===SILENCE. Reading the reports I noted talk of calls for FREXIT. A term I have never heard reported before. EXCELLENT post, Ray, esp. the third line. This is it entirely. We're definitely getting the mushroom treatment news-wise, in the UK on this, so who's keeping everything played down? The Frexit stuff was news to me, too, until the mention from Dees two or three posts up. FREXIT! Wouldn't THAT be luverly..........
|
|
|
Post by starkiller on Jan 6, 2019 12:46:44 GMT
The fact that these riots and protests are VIRTUALLY UNREPORTED by our media is very disturbing. It shows how we are manipulated by the media and press. If these disturbing events were reported properly AS THEY DEFINITELY SHOULD BE, they would undoubtedly have an enormous effect on people’s opinions regarding the farcical goings on in Westminster re Brexit For those who have not seen it just google France. Some people are calling it “on the brink of civil war”, people are dying on the streets, and from our media===SILENCE. Reading the reports I noted talk of calls for FREXIT. A term I have never heard reported before. It'd be 24 hour rolling if it were against Trump. But since it has anti-EU elements, the Brussels Broadcasting Corp can't allow the public to know.
|
|
|
Post by Deleted on Jan 6, 2019 12:47:50 GMT
I see the media are all ramping up the doom and gloom predictions to coincide with the return of the shysters to the House of Conmen after their Christmas break. Almost all news bulletins, political programmes, newspapers and internet articles are spouting the same doomsday scenarios of any form of Brexit.
No doubt Bliar, Soubry, Starmer and Co have all been recharging their negative batteries during the recess for a full on assault to try to overturn the once in a lifetime (quote the then Prime Minister)June 2016 "People's vote" and to show a complete disregard for the voters.
AOL have been running an article stating how it's 56% now wanting to remain, and have an online poll attached, with the options being May's Deal, No Deal, or Remain - ironically even though the "Leave" vote is spilt over the two options the online poll is showing "Leave" at 51% (May's Deal at 7% or No Deal at 44%) and Remain at 49%, so it would appear little has changed since the referendum, and the figuires don't accurately back up the AOL article.
|
|