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Nov 1, 2020 10:42:24 GMT
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Post by crowey on Nov 1, 2020 10:42:24 GMT
... they say the suspect was dressed in a medieval costume wielding a sword. So I take it he’s not an Islamist, but just an insane Québécois?
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Nov 1, 2020 13:44:58 GMT
Post by foster on Nov 1, 2020 13:44:58 GMT
Excellent from Macron and you know the French won’t fuck about. We could learn so much from them He just need's to stop escorting illegal immigrants into our waters now, if France does get tough on the followers of Islam it will make the UK a much safer place as a result. He seems pretty determined to sort out these heathen butchers it will be interesting to see if the French people back him I think they will, if so it will put mounting pressure on our government to follow suit. The problem is radicals. Not all followers of Islam.
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Nov 1, 2020 13:50:24 GMT
Post by crapslinger on Nov 1, 2020 13:50:24 GMT
He just need's to stop escorting illegal immigrants into our waters now, if France does get tough on the followers of Islam it will make the UK a much safer place as a result. He seems pretty determined to sort out these heathen butchers it will be interesting to see if the French people back him I think they will, if so it will put mounting pressure on our government to follow suit. The problem is radicals. Not all followers of Islam. Apologies but I thought it would have been obvious that it is not all followers of Islam. They and the people who aid abet and cover up for them are all as guilty.
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Post by foster on Nov 1, 2020 14:01:39 GMT
The problem is radicals. Not all followers of Islam. Apologies but I thought it would have been obvious that it is not all followers of Islam. They and the people who aid abet and cover up for them are all as guilty. I agree. I'm all for as hard a stance as possible against all people who preach hate and do not respect a countries values (or police force / public servants). This includes radicals, knife wielding yobs, etc.... Zero tolerance. I don't imagine any current British politicians speaking with as much authority as Macron has on this subject. He's gone up a notch in my opinion and I hope France goes all out to identify and eliminate any/all radical fuckers.
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Post by wagsastokie on Nov 1, 2020 14:38:53 GMT
Fair enough have a crackdown by all means But why the hell give a announcement about it they should of kept relatively quiet and start rounding them up then say something
What’s to stop certain individuals now they know there’s a crack down mysteriously losing their papers and climbing on inflatables and heading across the channel
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Nov 2, 2020 7:02:47 GMT
Post by crapslinger on Nov 2, 2020 7:02:47 GMT
Fair enough have a crackdown by all means But why the hell give a announcement about it they should of kept relatively quiet and start rounding them up then say something What’s to stop certain individuals now they know there’s a crack down mysteriously losing their papers and climbing on inflatables and heading across the channel We will put them up in 4* hotels full board give the poor mites £40 a week pocket money then they will abscond and disappears as many other illegals do.
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Nov 2, 2020 7:11:32 GMT
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Post by wagsastokie on Nov 2, 2020 7:11:32 GMT
Fair enough have a crackdown by all means But why the hell give a announcement about it they should of kept relatively quiet and start rounding them up then say something What’s to stop certain individuals now they know there’s a crack down mysteriously losing their papers and climbing on inflatables and heading across the channel We will put them up in 4* hotels full board give the poor mites £40 a week pocket money then they will abscond and disappears as many other illegals do. I have no problem with immigration or legitimate asylum seekers Immigration has brought a lot of good to the country But we do need to be more vigilant and start to screen these People very carefully
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Post by crapslinger on Nov 2, 2020 7:18:26 GMT
We will put them up in 4* hotels full board give the poor mites £40 a week pocket money then they will abscond and disappears as many other illegals do. I have no problem with immigration or legitimate asylum seekers Immigration has brought a lot of good to the country But we do need to be more vigilant and start to screen these People very carefully The problem for me is illegal immigrants, anyone coming into this country with no paperwork should be deported with immediate effect for our security.
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Post by foster on Nov 2, 2020 10:09:45 GMT
I have no problem with immigration or legitimate asylum seekers Immigration has brought a lot of good to the country But we do need to be more vigilant and start to screen these People very carefully The problem for me is illegal immigrants, anyone coming into this country with no paperwork should be deported with immediate effect for our security. I'm more of the opinion that it's not so much those in need trying to get in, but those that are already here, benefitting from the system while preaching hate towards it and everything Western society stands for. We should clear out the shit at home first and then vet those that come in. I have no issues throwing out jihadists or hate preachers, and letting in families trying to escape from war torn countries. Those that are really in need and deserve a better life.
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Post by starkiller on Nov 2, 2020 21:15:40 GMT
It's not for me question the ranking of things to get annoyed about for Muslims, but clearly this ranks below cartoons.
France and Europe gets the Muslim wrath but China doesn't, despite having a couple of million Muslims in camps.
I guess Muhammad likes the Chinese money too much.
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Post by thevoid on Nov 2, 2020 21:22:27 GMT
It's not for me question the ranking of things to get annoyed about for Muslims, but clearly this ranks below cartoons. France and Europe gets the Muslim wrath but China doesn't, despite having a couple of million Muslims in camps. I guess Muhammad likes the Chinese money too much. Imagine being so gammon that some cartoons outrage you more than people having their heads cut off.
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Post by foster on Nov 2, 2020 21:43:44 GMT
As for boycotts, the solution is very clear. If any country wants to boycott French (and by extension 'European' products), then France (and Europe) should boycott theirs.
Let's see how long they protest for when they lose a large part of their export business.
We should stick closer to home, trading with like minded neighbouring countries.
Better quality and better for the planet.
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Nov 3, 2020 11:45:57 GMT
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Post by bigjohnritchie on Nov 3, 2020 11:45:57 GMT
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Nov 3, 2020 12:19:56 GMT
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Post by scfcbiancorossi on Nov 3, 2020 12:19:56 GMT
It's not for me question the ranking of things to get annoyed about for Muslims, but clearly this ranks below cartoons. France and Europe gets the Muslim wrath but China doesn't, despite having a couple of million Muslims in camps. I guess Muhammad likes the Chinese money too much. These radical, brainwashed nutjobs really are a bunch of barmy bastards aren't they.
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Nov 3, 2020 12:20:44 GMT
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Post by scfcbiancorossi on Nov 3, 2020 12:20:44 GMT
As for boycotts, the solution is very clear. If any country wants to boycott French (and by extension 'European' products), then France (and Europe) should boycott theirs. Let's see how long they protest for when they lose a large part of their export business. We should stick closer to home, trading with like minded neighbouring countries. Better quality and better for the planet. Indeed.
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Post by starkiller on Nov 3, 2020 12:22:04 GMT
It's not for me question the ranking of things to get annoyed about for Muslims, but clearly this ranks below cartoons. France and Europe gets the Muslim wrath but China doesn't, despite having a couple of million Muslims in camps. I guess Muhammad likes the Chinese money too much. These radical, brainwashed nutjobs really are a bunch of barmy bastards aren't they. It makes it pretty clear that it's an attack on the West. This is why China largely escapes criticism.
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Post by scfcbiancorossi on Nov 3, 2020 12:31:58 GMT
These radical, brainwashed nutjobs really are a bunch of barmy bastards aren't they. It makes it pretty clear that it's an attack on the West. This is why China largely escapes criticism. Indeed. And our weak, woke Liberal (but anti Liberal) mainstream media don't give much of a fuck. Its easy to forget that three white lads having a pint in a park in Reading had their throats sliced by some lunatic with a machete just a few months ago. Yet at every single opportunity the bbc and Sky elite happily remind us about the importance of BLM and wider wokedom.
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Post by franklin on Nov 3, 2020 12:34:24 GMT
It makes it pretty clear that it's an attack on the West. This is why China largely escapes criticism. Indeed. And our weak, woke Liberal (but anti Liberal) mainstream media don't give much of a fuck. Its easy to forget that three white lads having a pint in a park in Reading had their throats sliced by some lunatic with a machete just a few months ago. Yet at every single opportunity the bbc and Sky elite happily remind us about the importance of BLM and wider wokedom. The murder of innocent people is not a big enough bandwagon to ride on for them.
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Nov 3, 2020 12:55:52 GMT
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Post by starkiller on Nov 3, 2020 12:55:52 GMT
It makes it pretty clear that it's an attack on the West. This is why China largely escapes criticism. Indeed. And our weak, woke Liberal (but anti Liberal) mainstream media don't give much of a fuck. Its easy to forget that three white lads having a pint in a park in Reading had their throats sliced by some lunatic with a machete just a few months ago. Yet at every single opportunity the bbc and Sky elite happily remind us about the importance of BLM and wider wokedom. Manipulated to be this way. China is a Globalist project, so a couple of million in camps is not a concern for them. In fact, they get a place on the Globalist UN Human Rights council. The countries on that council should tell people everything about their real view on human rights.
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Post by cobhamstokey on Nov 3, 2020 13:58:38 GMT
It makes it pretty clear that it's an attack on the West. This is why China largely escapes criticism. Indeed. And our weak, woke Liberal (but anti Liberal) mainstream media don't give much of a fuck. Its easy to forget that three white lads having a pint in a park in Reading had their throats sliced by some lunatic with a machete just a few months ago. Yet at every single opportunity the bbc and Sky elite happily remind us about the importance of BLM and wider wokedom. And police stops being racist.
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Post by scfcbiancorossi on Nov 3, 2020 14:03:29 GMT
Indeed. And our weak, woke Liberal (but anti Liberal) mainstream media don't give much of a fuck. Its easy to forget that three white lads having a pint in a park in Reading had their throats sliced by some lunatic with a machete just a few months ago. Yet at every single opportunity the bbc and Sky elite happily remind us about the importance of BLM and wider wokedom. And police stops being racist. The UK is one of the most tolerant countries in the world. Anyone who disagrees with that would be well advised to travel more or stop reading whatever they are reading.
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Post by franklin on Nov 3, 2020 14:11:55 GMT
And police stops being racist. The UK is one of the most tolerant countries in the world. Anyone who disagrees with that would be well advised to travel more or stop reading whatever they are reading. Thats so true we all know there are incidents where it is genuinely racist but today the word racist is so easily and readily thrown about it loses it meaning. Just because I disagree with a theory or disagree with certain ideology does not make anyone racist.
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Post by thevoid on Nov 3, 2020 17:14:00 GMT
These radical, brainwashed nutjobs really are a bunch of barmy bastards aren't they. It makes it pretty clear that it's an attack on the West. This is why China largely escapes criticism. Well you only needed to look at the atrocities committed by Daesh against Muslims to know that. Regular Muslims are collateral damage to them.
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Post by cobhamstokey on Nov 3, 2020 17:28:30 GMT
The UK is one of the most tolerant countries in the world. Anyone who disagrees with that would be well advised to travel more or stop reading whatever they are reading. Thats so true we all know there are incidents where it is genuinely racist but today the word racist is so easily and readily thrown about it loses it meaning. Just because I disagree with a theory or disagree with certain ideology does not make anyone racist. Well said. Sadly we have a good few on here who are happy to accuse and throw the word around at people just wanting to put a point of view across that they don’t agree with.
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Post by thevoid on Nov 3, 2020 17:56:11 GMT
Thats so true we all know there are incidents where it is genuinely racist but today the word racist is so easily and readily thrown about it loses it meaning. Just because I disagree with a theory or disagree with certain ideology does not make anyone racist. Well said. Sadly we have a good few on here who are happy to accuse and throw the word around at people just wanting to put a point of view across that they don’t agree with. It doesn't help when people are posting bollocks on Twitter about cereal boxes being racist and suchlike. This sort of nonsense just gets people's backs up and dilutes the impact of actual racism when it does occur.
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Post by foster on Nov 3, 2020 17:57:54 GMT
Thats so true we all know there are incidents where it is genuinely racist but today the word racist is so easily and readily thrown about it loses it meaning. Just because I disagree with a theory or disagree with certain ideology does not make anyone racist. Well said. Sadly we have a good few on here who are happy to accuse and throw the word around at people just wanting to put a point of view across that they don’t agree with. Are these the ones that go ape shit and spam the board over the UK being inherently and institutionally racist, but then don't bother commenting on terrorism as it doesn't support their 'minorities (ethnic, religious or otherwise) can do no wrong' blinkered view of the world. Funny thing being that the uber-liberals are the ones that not only allow the radicals to take advantage of the system, but are also the ones that radicals will want to wipe out the most.
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Post by thevoid on Nov 3, 2020 18:10:10 GMT
Well said. Sadly we have a good few on here who are happy to accuse and throw the word around at people just wanting to put a point of view across that they don’t agree with. Are these the ones that go ape shit and spam the board over the UK being inherently and institutionally racist, but then don't bother commenting on terrorism as it doesn't support their 'minorities (ethnic, religious or otherwise) can do no wrong' blinkered view of the world. Funny thing being that the liberals are the ones that not only allow the radicals to take advantage of the system, but are also the ones that radicals will want to wipe out the most. Yep, strange isn't it. The same people who then say 'the usual gang' are all over certain threads on here in an echo chamber! No one's stopping you joining in, guys 😆 It's a similar phenomenon to those on the left who call people gammon, but will then get in a tizz over some street in Liverpool being named after a bloke who died hundreds of years ago, or turn a blind eye to people more worked up over a cartoon than they are an innocent mother of two being beheaded. It's transparent as hell.
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Post by foster on Nov 3, 2020 18:30:30 GMT
Are these the ones that go ape shit and spam the board over the UK being inherently and institutionally racist, but then don't bother commenting on terrorism as it doesn't support their 'minorities (ethnic, religious or otherwise) can do no wrong' blinkered view of the world. Funny thing being that the liberals are the ones that not only allow the radicals to take advantage of the system, but are also the ones that radicals will want to wipe out the most. Yep, strange isn't it. The same people who then say 'the usual gang' are all over certain threads on here in an echo chamber! No one's stopping you joining in, guys 😆 It's a similar phenomenon to those on the left who call people gammon, but will then get in a tizz over some street in Liverpool being named after a bloke who died hundreds of years ago, or turn a blind eye to people more worked up over a cartoon than they are an innocent mother of two being beheaded. It's transparent as hell. I consider myself quite liberal. No problem at all with any minority group or religion. What I have no tolerance for though are disrespectful, nasty and hateful people that wish to do innocent and decent people harm. Whether they're White British, BAME British or BAME is immaterial to me. I'm also not in the' usual suspects' gang, as you put it. What does piss me off though, is that because of the blinkered view that some people have, and the cowardice of the government to face these issues, it's effectively putting my life and my kids lives in unnecessary danger. I don't normally get worked up over things but this is not what I want for their future.
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Post by bigjohnritchie on Dec 4, 2020 8:17:38 GMT
Is this the inevitable consequence of cultural clash/ parallel communities/separatism? .............. PARIS: French authorities will inspect dozens of mosques and prayer halls suspected of radical teachings starting on Thursday (Dec 3) as part of a crackdown on extremists following a spate of attacks, Interior Minister Gerald Darmanin said. Darmanin told RTL radio that if any of the 76 prayer halls inspected was found to promote extremism they would be closed down. On Twitter on Wednesday he said the mosques were suspected of "separatism" - a term President Emmanuel Macron has used to describe ultraconservative Muslims closing themselves off from French society by, for example, enrolling their children in underground Islamic schools or forcing young girls to wear the Muslim headscarf France targets mosques in crackdown on radical Islam - CNA www.channelnewsasia.com/news/world/france-targets-mosques-in-crackdown-on-radical-islam-13694350............. Nov 23, 2020 Tangier – France’s Interior Minister Gerald Darmanin has said that French law will soon condemn those who speak out against caricatures deemed insulting to Islam. Foreigners who do so will also be subject to deportation, he underlined. He added: “And a judge will be able to say, if you are foreigners and you are condemned to this offense, you will leave the national territory.” Macron condemned the September stabbing and stressed that France must put an end to “Islamist separatism.” Two days after the heinous murder of Paty, the French interior minister vowed to crack down on individuals and organizations considered “enemies to the republic.” French media outlets reported on October 18 that Darmanin called for an acceleration of a deportation program, targeting 231 irregular migrants who allegedly hold “extremist beliefs.” The crackdown on Islamic NGOs began on October 19. The interior minister initially announced that state services will visit 51 associative structures. France to Deport Foreigners Who Condemn Caricatures Offensive to Islam www.moroccoworldnews.com/2020/11/326857/france-to-deport-foreigners-who-condemn-caricatures-offensive-to-islam/Whilst we in the UK are debating the deportation of criminals
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Post by thevoid on Dec 4, 2020 9:31:38 GMT
Is this the inevitable consequence of cultural clash/ parallel communities/separatism? .............. PARIS: French authorities will inspect dozens of mosques and prayer halls suspected of radical teachings starting on Thursday (Dec 3) as part of a crackdown on extremists following a spate of attacks, Interior Minister Gerald Darmanin said. Darmanin told RTL radio that if any of the 76 prayer halls inspected was found to promote extremism they would be closed down. On Twitter on Wednesday he said the mosques were suspected of "separatism" - a term President Emmanuel Macron has used to describe ultraconservative Muslims closing themselves off from French society by, for example, enrolling their children in underground Islamic schools or forcing young girls to wear the Muslim headscarf France targets mosques in crackdown on radical Islam - CNA www.channelnewsasia.com/news/world/france-targets-mosques-in-crackdown-on-radical-islam-13694350............. Nov 23, 2020 Tangier – France’s Interior Minister Gerald Darmanin has said that French law will soon condemn those who speak out against caricatures deemed insulting to Islam. Foreigners who do so will also be subject to deportation, he underlined. He added: “And a judge will be able to say, if you are foreigners and you are condemned to this offense, you will leave the national territory.” Macron condemned the September stabbing and stressed that France must put an end to “Islamist separatism.” Two days after the heinous murder of Paty, the French interior minister vowed to crack down on individuals and organizations considered “enemies to the republic.” French media outlets reported on October 18 that Darmanin called for an acceleration of a deportation program, targeting 231 irregular migrants who allegedly hold “extremist beliefs.” The crackdown on Islamic NGOs began on October 19. The interior minister initially announced that state services will visit 51 associative structures. France to Deport Foreigners Who Condemn Caricatures Offensive to Islam www.moroccoworldnews.com/2020/11/326857/france-to-deport-foreigners-who-condemn-caricatures-offensive-to-islam/Whilst we in the UK are debating the deportation of criminals The irony being that the inevitable attacks that follow this purge will prove Macron's point more than anything.
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