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Post by Deleted on Nov 21, 2018 22:27:39 GMT
I'm sure she can pay herself what she wants given she built it up. But it's fucking vulgar isn't it? The sooner regulation comes in the better as far as I'm concerned. Well the business they are in is to me vulgar effectively making money out of peoples misery but it is their money to do as they wish, wasn't it last year they put a couple of hundred million into a charitable foundation, in the company or in her bank account its basically still her money anyway this way a nice chunk of tax and NI goes to HMRC. In any era where people can't afford to feed their families properly, billionaires should not exist. |
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Post by pottermouth on Nov 21, 2018 23:17:00 GMT
We've woods and Afobe to pay for. The sale of wimmer, Badou , imbula , Butland ,Allen and Pieters should see our heavy debt turn in to profit. Simple really just sell our talent. Starting with those out on loan. What the transfer team doing.? I assume this is being said tongue in cheek?! As to how we get a profit from players like Wimmer, Badou, Imbula and Pieters is beyond me. |
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Post by JoeinOz on Nov 22, 2018 5:48:51 GMT
To put our £30m loss into context , and compare the performance of our executive team , On New Year’s Eve 2008 Bournemouth were 91st and appointed Eddie Howe having just earned themselves back to 0 points , today they sit 7th in the premier league , over that period they have out performed us in every single measure Yeah but when they hit a dead end (and they will) they will also get their own message board biscuits making claims about financial incompetence. And Bournemouth no doubt have their own stopped clocks like we've got you. |
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Post by mamathestriker on Nov 22, 2018 6:16:06 GMT
Should the huge debt we've got be something to worry about?
I don't completely understand these things but it looks eyewatering!
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Post by citynickscfc on Nov 22, 2018 6:51:13 GMT
Come on Denise, take over already 😂 you know you love us (the club)
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Post by followyoudown on Nov 22, 2018 8:28:31 GMT
Well the business they are in is to me vulgar effectively making money out of peoples misery but it is their money to do as they wish, wasn't it last year they put a couple of hundred million into a charitable foundation, in the company or in her bank account its basically still her money anyway this way a nice chunk of tax and NI goes to HMRC. In any era where people can't afford to feed their families properly, billionaires should not exist. And how are these two points even related ? She will have paid over £100m tax on her salary so how is it her responsibility that other people can't feed their families properly ? |
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Post by thebet365 on Nov 22, 2018 9:18:51 GMT
Should the huge debt we've got be something to worry about? I don't completely understand these things but it looks eyewatering! No the agreement written in the accounts is that the parent company (Bet 365) won't demand repayment of loans unless the club has the means to pay it. |
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Post by mrred on Nov 22, 2018 9:33:59 GMT
Should the huge debt we've got be something to worry about? I don't completely understand these things but it looks eyewatering! No the agreement written in the accounts is that the parent company (Bet 365) won't demand repayment of loans unless the club has the means to pay it. So their idea of sustainability is to get someone else to pay their way. Great strategy, Tony. Ever likely his job is safe as houses when he's got Denise Coates to pick up his tab. Fucking cockroach. |
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Post by cheekymatt71 on Nov 22, 2018 9:36:21 GMT
Shes paid half a million per day. Even more than Carlos Tevez  We are all grateful to the Coates family for what they have done for Stoke and the surrounding areas. But that is an obscene amount of money, which ostensibly is generated from poorer peoples gambling losses. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 22, 2018 19:12:31 GMT
In any era where people can't afford to feed their families properly, billionaires should not exist. And how are these two points even related ? She will have paid over £100m tax on her salary so how is it her responsibility that other people can't feed their families properly ? She earned 250 million in a year. No-one needs that much. she could give away 200 million to charity and still have no effect on her life. |
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Nov 22, 2018 22:23:35 GMT
To put our £30m loss into context , and compare the performance of our executive team , On New Year’s Eve 2008 Bournemouth were 91st and appointed Eddie Howe having just earned themselves back to 0 points , today they sit 7th in the premier league , over that period they have out performed us in every single measure Yeah but when they hit a dead end (and they will) they will also get their own message board biscuits making claims about financial incompetence. And Bournemouth no doubt have their own stopped clocks like we've got you. I dont think we are in any position to lecture others on dead ends |
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Post by followyoudown on Nov 22, 2018 22:35:03 GMT
And how are these two points even related ? She will have paid over £100m tax on her salary so how is it her responsibility that other people can't feed their families properly ? She earned 250 million in a year. No-one needs that much. she could give away 200 million to charity and still have no effect on her life. The £250m is pre tax and NI which takes over 50% of that so I am guessing giving away £75m as well as all her net salary would have some effect besides the fact in the previous year they actually put over £100m into a charitable foundation. I would also imagine some of the salary ends up with charities too. |
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Post by davejohnno1 on Nov 22, 2018 22:39:51 GMT
Shes paid half a million per day. Even more than Carlos Tevez We are all grateful to the Coates family for what they have done for Stoke and the surrounding areas. But that is an obscene amount of money, which ostensibly is generated from poorer peoples gambling losses. Is it only poorer people that gamble and lose Then? I've never been in to gambling beyond my £1 dinner money going on steino to score the first goal primarily because I've never had the cash to even consider gambling in the first place. |
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Post by JoeinOz on Nov 22, 2018 23:20:28 GMT
Yeah but when they hit a dead end (and they will) they will also get their own message board biscuits making claims about financial incompetence. And Bournemouth no doubt have their own stopped clocks like we've got you. I dont think we are in any position to lecture others on dead ends I'm not lecturing anyone. I'm having a go at you. |
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Nov 22, 2018 23:23:50 GMT
If it makes you happy fine but I didn’t put us in the champisonshop , waste £10’s if not 100’s million pounds and throw away a £100m + revenue stream while claiming to be well run
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Post by JoeinOz on Nov 22, 2018 23:27:33 GMT
If it makes you happy fine but I didn’t put us in the champisonshop , waste £10’s if not 100’s million pounds and throw away a £100m + revenue stream while claiming to be well run No but you were predicting relegation for years before it happened and now preen like a peacock over it. |
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Nov 22, 2018 23:29:15 GMT
If it makes you happy fine but I didn’t put us in the champisonshop , waste £10’s if not 100’s million pounds and throw away a £100m + revenue stream while claiming to be well run No but you were predicting relegation for years before it happened and now preen like a peacock over it. No preening just very frustrated as it was so avoidable |
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Post by JoeinOz on Nov 22, 2018 23:31:07 GMT
No but you were predicting relegation for years before it happened and now preen like a peacock over it. No preening just very frustrated as it was so avoidable You were saying it was going happen for years before it did. Banging on about finance. You lucked out once. |
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Nov 22, 2018 23:35:23 GMT
No preening just very frustrated as it was so avoidable You were saying it was going happen for years before it did. Banging on about finance. You lucked out once. Decline often sets In slowly see villa , Newcastle , Now Southampton . In the end we didn’t keep pace with our peers Bournemouth palace West Ham etc and eventually three promoted teams came up who were hungrier , better organised and more ambitious . Ultimately we didn’t invest enough that we did we executed badly and we weee complacent enough to believe it there was no real risk to us |
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Post by JoeinOz on Nov 22, 2018 23:37:04 GMT
You were saying it was going happen for years before it did. Banging on about finance. You lucked out once. Decline often sets In slowly see villa , Newcastle , Now Southampton . In the end we didn’t keep pace with our peers Bournemouth palace West Ham etc and eventually three promoted teams came up who were hungrier , better organised and more ambitious . Ultimately we didn’t invest enough that we did we executed badly and we weee complacent enough to believe it there was no real risk to us You were coming out with all that when we were beating Liverpool 6-1 |
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Post by Lakeland Potter on Nov 23, 2018 7:29:23 GMT
I'm sure she can pay herself what she wants given she built it up. But it's fucking vulgar isn't it? The sooner regulation comes in the better as far as I'm concerned. No human being on Earth should earn that much. It's obscene. Fine sentiments. Yet the tax she and the family pay on the salary they take from the club have probably benefited the taxman by £100 million MORE than would have been paid if they had left the money in the company and simply paid extra corporation tax. This is discussed in some detail in a reply to me on the Denise Coates "local girl" thread So, rather than calling it obscene would it not be better to try to ensure the government put that extra £100 million in tax it received towards alleviating poverty and helping with addiction rather than using most of it to give tax relief to the richest 5%? My view is that I can't even imagine what it must be like to have so much money but I have far more respect for someone like Denise, who doesn't live a flashy lifestyle and who doesn't seem to make a hobby of income tax avoidance, than I do for those well publicised £billionaires who spend their time plotting to avoid tax and, having done so, spend obscene amounts of money on hedonistic lifestyles. Denise isn't responsible for the way our country's taxation system works - but she does at least appear to "pay her dues" towards the cost of running the country without complaint -which is more than you can say for some of her fellow high earners. |
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Post by sheikhmomo on Nov 23, 2018 7:47:41 GMT
No human being on Earth should earn that much. It's obscene. Fine sentiments. Yet the tax she and the family pay on the salary they take from the club have probably benefited the taxman by £100 million MORE than would have been paid if they had left the money in the company and simply paid extra corporation tax. This is discussed in some detail in a reply to me on the Denise Coates "local girl" thread So, rather than calling it obscene would it not be better to try to ensure the government put that extra £100 million in tax it received towards alleviating poverty and helping with addiction rather than using most of it to give tax relief to the richest 5%? My view is that I can't even imagine what it must be like to have so much money but I have far more respect for someone like Denise, who doesn't live a flashy lifestyle and who doesn't seem to make a hobby of income tax avoidance, than I do for those well publicised £billionaires who spend their time plotting to avoid tax and, having done so, spend obscene amounts of money on hedonistic lifestyles. Denise isn't responsible for the way our country's taxation system works - but she does at least appear to "pay her dues" towards the cost of running the country without complaint -which is more than you can say for some of her fellow high earners. Agree with this entirely. It is very hard to describe her remuneration as anything better than extreme and insensitive but when it comes to the worse cases of abuse and excess she is well down the list. We live in a country where Denise Coates was a question on Question Time last night and Sir Phillip Green is well. still Sir Phillip Green  |
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Nov 26, 2018 9:30:07 GMT
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Post by mrred on Nov 26, 2018 9:51:01 GMT
#sustainability.
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Post by s8to on Nov 26, 2018 10:29:37 GMT
STAGGERING!!! Take a bow Mr Scholes!!! Outstanding work from our CEO and Top Team!!!  |
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Nov 26, 2018 11:12:53 GMT
STAGGERING!!! Take a bow Mr Scholes!!! Outstanding work from our CEO and Top Team!!! Staggering it is mate and I happened to see Lord Lucan on Saturday and his utterly miserable face |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 26, 2018 11:20:09 GMT
So, just for a complete thicko. Player impairment.
Is that where your player is worth less than you have stated on your company accounts, to the value of X in each case?
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Post by thebet365 on Nov 26, 2018 12:20:24 GMT
So, just for a complete thicko. Player impairment. Is that where your player is worth less than you have stated on your company accounts, to the value of X in each case? Yes, take Wimmer as an example. We pay 18 Million and it goes stright onto the balance sheet as his value, it is then written down over his contract length. However we've probably chose to write it all off now, because Football league FFP rules are strict around losses, so it's better to realise the loss now in these accounts rather than when it does actually occur when he leaves permanently. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 26, 2018 13:04:39 GMT
So, just for a complete thicko. Player impairment. Is that where your player is worth less than you have stated on your company accounts, to the value of X in each case? Yes, take Wimmer as an example. We pay 18 Million and it goes stright onto the balance sheet as his value, it is then written down over his contract length. However we've probably chose to write it all off now, because Football league FFP rules are strict around losses, so it's better to realise the loss now in these accounts rather than when it does actually occur when he leaves permanently. Nice one sir. Thank you. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 26, 2018 13:08:48 GMT
Swiss Ramble is ace.
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