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Post by stokesupporter on Sept 24, 2018 15:52:21 GMT
2. Haugaard
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Post by danceswithclams on Sept 24, 2018 16:00:21 GMT
Lambert should of stayed on He really shouldn't have. You're talking out of your arse.
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Post by samba :) on Sept 24, 2018 16:10:41 GMT
2 is either diouf or sobhi
1 i have no clue
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Post by terryconroysmagic on Sept 24, 2018 16:15:02 GMT
Lambert should of stayed on Then this place would have gone ballistic
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Post by Matt on Sept 24, 2018 18:29:31 GMT
Long story short, a mate of mine (not a Stoke fan) sat next to a member of Lamberts coaching team at a wedding recently. Spoke mostly about Villa, but also some Stoke snippets. Some stuff I’ve heard on here before, Like Berahino constantly late and fined thousands of pounds, Crouch the best character in the dressing room etc. But he also told 2 stories about players he refused to name. 1) Peter Coates was talking to Lambert about a tackle this player made during a game, saying he would never of made that tackle under Hughes. Lambert asked the player outright in front of the whole team and the player agreed that he wouldn’t of done it for Hughes. Lambert went ballistic. 2) They couldn’t understand some of the signings made under Hughes. He said that 1 player simply couldn’t kick the ball (my mate thought he was joking but he was deadly serious). He had extra 1 on 1 sessions after training to teach him how to kick a ball.
Wouldn’t divulge names and could apply to a few players, answers on a postcard. Re 1. , is it either:
Lambert went ballistic because he made a reckless tackle that he would have not made under LMH (as he would have previously shown more restraint / professionalism under LMH but not under PL)?
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Lambert should have been pleased that he made the tackle under him and not Hughes (as he was showing greater commitment for PL)?
It reads as 2. but is that what you mean?
Re 2. Seems about as likely as some of the goings on on the Bodyguard last night.
Seriously? A professional footballer that cos kicka bo?
Behave - he must have been drunk.
That said:
1. Chubby Charlie 2. There's a few come Satdee's of late, so take your pick ; )
The way the story was told it was a positive tackle. The context was around us increasing in work rate I.e sprints, yards run etc. So the player made the effort to put the tackle in under Lambert and wouldn’t have done so under Hughes. As some people have stated, Lambert went ballistic because it displayed a bad attitude if the player didn’t like what was going on around them.
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Post by Dr Hesham on Sept 24, 2018 18:41:53 GMT
Number 2 definitely isn't Sobhi. That's a ridiculous suggestion. We signed Sobhi off the fact he was African footballer of the year for about 2 years in a row, wasn't he? You don't get that if you're as untalented as is being described. It might be before Lambert's time, but I wonder if the player he is talking about is (RIP) Dionatan Teixeira. Big Jonny was a Hughes signing and I'm sure it was rumoured that there was a long standing joke amongst the staff in the club they didn't believe he was Brazilian because he was so bad at football. He had gone by the time Lambert arrived, but not everyone in the club left with Hughes. Staff remained so like many jokes, they get passed down. Stoke relegated because of the bad performance of Sobhi on the bench. Udders are losing because Sobhi is not doing well in the hospital too.
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Post by samba :) on Sept 24, 2018 19:07:03 GMT
Number 2 definitely isn't Sobhi. That's a ridiculous suggestion. We signed Sobhi off the fact he was African footballer of the year for about 2 years in a row, wasn't he? You don't get that if you're as untalented as is being described. It might be before Lambert's time, but I wonder if the player he is talking about is (RIP) Dionatan Teixeira. Big Jonny was a Hughes signing and I'm sure it was rumoured that there was a long standing joke amongst the staff in the club they didn't believe he was Brazilian because he was so bad at football. He had gone by the time Lambert arrived, but not everyone in the club left with Hughes. Staff remained so like many jokes, they get passed down. Stoke relegated because of the bad performance of Sobhi on the bench. Udders are losing because Sobhi is not doing well in the hospital too. he isnt very good. Hes not even in the top 3 Egyptians in england
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Post by toppercorner on Sept 24, 2018 19:33:57 GMT
Number 2 definitely isn't Sobhi. That's a ridiculous suggestion. We signed Sobhi off the fact he was African footballer of the year for about 2 years in a row, wasn't he? You don't get that if you're as untalented as is being described. It might be before Lambert's time, but I wonder if the player he is talking about is (RIP) Dionatan Teixeira. Big Jonny was a Hughes signing and I'm sure it was rumoured that there was a long standing joke amongst the staff in the club they didn't believe he was Brazilian because he was so bad at football. He had gone by the time Lambert arrived, but not everyone in the club left with Hughes. Staff remained so like many jokes, they get passed down. Stoke relegated because of the bad performance of Sobhi on the bench. Udders are losing because Sobhi is not doing well in the hospital too. he must have kicked open tutankhamun's box and got cursed
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Post by Laughing Gravy on Sept 24, 2018 19:36:06 GMT
Stoke relegated because of the bad performance of Sobhi on the bench. Udders are losing because Sobhi is not doing well in the hospital too. he must have kicked open tutankhamun's box and got cursed I thought he couldn't kick?
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Post by stantheman on Sept 24, 2018 19:45:08 GMT
Lambert should of stayed on Couldnt be any worse
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Post by toppercorner on Sept 24, 2018 19:51:16 GMT
he must have kicked open tutankhamun's box and got cursed I thought he couldn't kick? missed the ball, hence waking the mummy
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Post by metalhead on Sept 24, 2018 20:23:31 GMT
Number 2 definitely isn't Sobhi. That's a ridiculous suggestion. We signed Sobhi off the fact he was African footballer of the year for about 2 years in a row, wasn't he? You don't get that if you're as untalented as is being described. It might be before Lambert's time, but I wonder if the player he is talking about is (RIP) Dionatan Teixeira. Big Jonny was a Hughes signing and I'm sure it was rumoured that there was a long standing joke amongst the staff in the club they didn't believe he was Brazilian because he was so bad at football. He had gone by the time Lambert arrived, but not everyone in the club left with Hughes. Staff remained so like many jokes, they get passed down. Stoke relegated because of the bad performance of Sobhi on the bench. Udders are losing because Sobhi is not doing well in the hospital too. Yeah, don't worry.... that's the Oatcake for you. We got relegated because Sobhi was sat on the bench. We also got relegated because Saido was sat on the bench. We didn't get relegated because our defence (Who weren't on the bench) were utterly woeful, our midfield was shambolic and our attack was fucking dire...... nah, it was because of players who barely got in the team #OatcakeLogic
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Post by Bera’s Beano on Sept 24, 2018 20:26:01 GMT
Have you never watched Haugaard on a Saturday warming up? He is better with his feet and kicking than most of our outfield players. If you haven’t payed attention because he’s wank at actually stopping shots, just watch him during the warm up, he puts crosses in for Butland training and his long passing is bang on.
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Post by PotterLog on Sept 24, 2018 20:29:26 GMT
Have you never watched Haugaard on a Saturday warming up? He is better with his feet and kicking than most of our outfield players. If you haven’t payed attention because he’s wank at actually stopping shots, just watch him during the warm up, he puts crosses in for Butland training and his long passing is bang on. Option for left back maybe?
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Post by Pricey on Sept 24, 2018 20:49:13 GMT
I'll guess:
1. Pieters. I thought his commitment-level and will to defend noticeably increased post-Hughes. 2. Sobhi. Thinks he's Zidane. Isn't.
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Post by Bera’s Beano on Sept 24, 2018 20:49:50 GMT
Have you never watched Haugaard on a Saturday warming up? He is better with his feet and kicking than most of our outfield players. If you haven’t payed attention because he’s wank at actually stopping shots, just watch him during the warm up, he puts crosses in for Butland training and his long passing is bang on. Option for left back maybe? I don’t think he would lose many headers, but he is left footed though I believe. Pieters is fine there though, maybe he could do a job at left wing?
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Post by enuntio on Sept 24, 2018 20:59:33 GMT
#2 Jack
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Post by kjpt140v on Sept 24, 2018 21:00:42 GMT
Option for left back maybe? I don’t think he would lose many headers, but he is left footed though I believe. Pieters is fine there though, maybe he could do a job at left wing? I respect Pieters but he's not a fine left back.
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Post by claytonscrubs on Sept 24, 2018 21:19:31 GMT
Who gives a stuff what a member of Lambert’s coaching team thinks? They were all second-rate along with Lambert, and not fit to lace Hughes’s boots!
What’s Lambert and his coaching staff doing now?... Organising knitting & crochet classes for OAPs?
I don’t mind reading criticism of Hughes, but not from those useless twats!
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Post by StatesideStokie on Sept 24, 2018 22:46:52 GMT
Stoke relegated because of the bad performance of Sobhi on the bench. Udders are losing because Sobhi is not doing well in the hospital too. he must have kicked open tutankhamun's box and got cursed He tried, it went wide.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 24, 2018 22:49:26 GMT
Long story short, a mate of mine (not a Stoke fan) sat next to a member of Lamberts coaching team at a wedding recently. Spoke mostly about Villa, but also some Stoke snippets. Some stuff I’ve heard on here before, Like Berahino constantly late and fined thousands of pounds, Crouch the best character in the dressing room etc. But he also told 2 stories about players he refused to name. 1) Peter Coates was talking to Lambert about a tackle this player made during a game, saying he would never of made that tackle under Hughes. Lambert asked the player outright in front of the whole team and the player agreed that he wouldn’t of done it for Hughes. Lambert went ballistic. 2) They couldn’t understand some of the signings made under Hughes. He said that 1 player simply couldn’t kick the ball (my mate thought he was joking but he was deadly serious). He had extra 1 on 1 sessions after training to teach him how to kick a ball.
Wouldn’t divulge names and could apply to a few players, answers on a postcard. Re 1. , is it either:
Lambert went ballistic because he made a reckless tackle that he would have not made under LMH (as he would have previously shown more restraint / professionalism under LMH but not under PL)?
or,
Lambert should have been pleased that he made the tackle under him and not Hughes (as he was showing greater commitment for PL)?
It reads as 2. but is that what you mean?
Re 2. Seems about as likely as some of the goings on on the Bodyguard last night.
Seriously? A professional footballer that cos kicka bo?
Behave - he must have been drunk.
That said:
1. Chubby Charlie 2. There's a few come Satdee's of late, so take your pick ; )
Thought the interview to play for Stoke went like this "Cost kick a bo agen a wo an yed eet til eet bosts?" So number 2 must be fictitious.
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Post by onefatcopper on Sept 25, 2018 7:32:25 GMT
1=Pieters, 2=Butland
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Post by clarkeda on Sept 25, 2018 7:52:31 GMT
The depressing thing is, how many names are being put forward that I think ‘oooo that’s a good shout’
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Post by cbwhu on Sept 25, 2018 13:52:24 GMT
Number 2 definitely isn't Sobhi. That's a ridiculous suggestion. We signed Sobhi off the fact he was African footballer of the year for about 2 years in a row, wasn't he? You don't get that if you're as untalented as is being described. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/African_Footballer_of_the_YearNever in top 3, surprisingly the judges went for the likes of Yaya Toure, Pierre-Emerick Aubameyang, Riyad Mahrez and Mo Salah instead
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Post by metalhead on Sept 25, 2018 20:22:46 GMT
Number 2 definitely isn't Sobhi. That's a ridiculous suggestion. We signed Sobhi off the fact he was African footballer of the year for about 2 years in a row, wasn't he? You don't get that if you're as untalented as is being described. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/African_Footballer_of_the_YearNever in top 3, surprisingly the judges went for the likes of Yaya Toure, Pierre-Emerick Aubameyang, Riyad Mahrez and Mo Salah instead Was it young African then? He won a couple of awards, I know that.
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Post by tony1234 on Sept 25, 2018 22:04:21 GMT
1. is Charlie cos' i think he's about the only big-gob who'd admit it. 2. Could be any number... Just watched this Sobhi video of highlights (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jpp3JRGxej4) "Kicks it" only a handful of times. Dribbling looks great, then the pass at the end somewhat "awkward" and unnatural 1:17, 1:32, 1:49, 2:20... but then some of his later crossing and passing looks good too. Could be a keeper, and the word "kick" gives it away (not "shoot", or "pass"). Wimmer could kick it, but just couldn't defend very well (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MLvUR42dAJE). Mystery. Probably pick Haugard
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Post by Dr Hesham on Sept 26, 2018 2:41:22 GMT
Stoke relegated because of the bad performance of Sobhi on the bench. Udders are losing because Sobhi is not doing well in the hospital too. Yeah, don't worry.... that's the Oatcake for you. We got relegated because Sobhi was sat on the bench. We also got relegated because Saido was sat on the bench. We didn't get relegated because our defence (Who weren't on the bench) were utterly woeful, our midfield was shambolic and our attack was fucking dire...... nah, it was because of players who barely got in the team #OatcakeLogic Sobhi didnt do well when he got some minutes and this was also a reason for the relegation but it can be number 11 or 12 in priorities after: 1- Stupidity from Hughes and Lambert 2- Delay before sacking Hughes from Coates, Wrong choice of choosing Lambert 3- Too much money for players who are not interested in playing for the team at this time like Jese, Choupo, Saido 4- Repeated mistakes from Ryan Shawcross every-game, he was the worst player in the last season but it is forbidden here to say that 5- Late signing of Bauer after Johnson has already fuc.ed up alot of games. 6- Peiters who can cross 1 good cross per 200 crosses, and i am not sure if he really can make any good crosses. 7- Paying 20 millions as long as i remember for a non footballer called Wimmer. 8- Depending on unfit Charlie Adam in a critical time of the season because he is Scottish. 9- Ego of Shaqiri after Arni has gone. 10- Poor performance from Butland, Grant has a better season than him in 2016/2017, but he is supposed to be England number 1 according to many. I dont blame players like Crouch, Allen, Indi, they did their best. After these reasons we can add the poor performance from Ramadan in the few minutes he played every 2-3 weeks.
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Post by GeneralFaye on Sept 26, 2018 5:26:07 GMT
The wonderkid Ramadan still having trouble ripping up the Premier League then I see?! This is a shock.
Enjoy another relegation lad.
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Post by lawrieleslie on Sept 26, 2018 9:58:24 GMT
1. Erik. His game improved massively under Lambert and, imo, it was because of this and Bauer that our defence improved in the last half of the season.
2. Sobhi. In terms of overrated players he was massively underrated. I saw him in 3 games and shook my head in disbelief at his lack of all round ability. Yes he was ok at close control and could beat his man. Remember him in the Bristol City cup match beating their right back down the channel with Crouchie and Berra screaming for the cross and Sobhi took the ball back to try and beat the right back again. No awareness, no footballing brain so probably couldn’t kick a ball accurately. Massively talked up by the his agent and the African footballing media.
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Post by Dr Hesham on Sept 26, 2018 13:43:01 GMT
The wonderkid Ramadan still having trouble ripping up the Premier League then I see?! This is a shock. Enjoy another relegation lad. How can he save them from relegation when he is injured since the start of the season? Anyway they are a poor team, if Stoke City had a good coach last year so Stoke should have survived and a team like Udders got relegated.
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