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Bojan
Sept 23, 2018 16:38:54 GMT
Post by hoofmagic on Sept 23, 2018 16:38:54 GMT
think it was jess ?
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Post by Davef on Sept 23, 2018 16:41:34 GMT
He’s the best natural finisher at the club. His record speaks for itself. He should be the penalty taker as simple as that Didn't he miss his last penalty? Yes, two years ago. He scored his previous five for us though.
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Post by Pugsley on Sept 23, 2018 16:48:52 GMT
Rowett wouldn't like Bojan taking one, he might become a firmer fans favourite.
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Bojan
Sept 23, 2018 16:51:22 GMT
Post by Deleted on Sept 23, 2018 16:51:22 GMT
Bojan has publicly said he suffers greatly from anxiety, this was the moment for him. He referred to something that primarily happened nine years ago!
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Bojan
Sept 23, 2018 22:22:09 GMT
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Post by Gob Bluth on Sept 23, 2018 22:22:09 GMT
Bojan has publicly said he suffers greatly from anxiety, this was the moment for him. He referred to something that primarily happened nine years ago! ‘You still have the scar. It doesn’t open but you can feel it pull at times, a reminder’ quote from the telegraph. The implication is he still suffers but not as deeply.
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Bojan
Sept 24, 2018 2:23:19 GMT
Post by Deleted on Sept 24, 2018 2:23:19 GMT
He referred to something that primarily happened nine years ago! ‘You still have the scar. It doesn’t open but you can feel it pull at times, a reminder’ quote from the telegraph. The implication is he still suffers but not as deeply. That's what I said: "primarily"! Of course emotional scars stay with you your whole life, but it doesn't mean that it weighs him down to the extent that he can't perform because of it.
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Bojan
Sept 24, 2018 9:06:18 GMT
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Post by Gob Bluth on Sept 24, 2018 9:06:18 GMT
‘You still have the scar. It doesn’t open but you can feel it pull at times, a reminder’ quote from the telegraph. The implication is he still suffers but not as deeply. That's what I said: "primarily"! Of course emotional scars stay with you your whole life, but it doesn't mean that it weighs him down to the extent that he can't perform because of it. I’m not sure there are many other reasons for a player once touted as having the potential to be the best in the world, that’s played and not performed for a number of the top European clubs is at Stoke in the Championship. Bojan hasn’t performed well for a number of years but has technical ability, he’s tried different countries, different managers, assuming that means different systems and possibly different roles. If it’s not something fundamental like anxiety I’m not sure what other reasons there could be.
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Bojan
Sept 24, 2018 9:12:04 GMT
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Post by wagsastokie on Sept 24, 2018 9:12:04 GMT
Bojan is probably the most talented player we have had at the club since Hudson, but he is simply not interested when he takes to the park, he just gives off the vibe that this is the last place on earth he would rather be. 1 of 20+ players that we need to get rid of in the January window - time for a bold new beginning - out with the old and in with the new Keep: Woods, Etebo, Ince, Afobe, Clucas(hopefully decent) Out: Everybody else Whenever I think The Oatcake has plumbed some new depth of absolute and utter fucking stupidity, it's somehow heartening to see I've underestimated it. Well done. Add Butland to the keep list who else this season in the first team has proved to be better than a wank into a tissue
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Post by Deleted on Sept 24, 2018 14:24:42 GMT
That's what I said: "primarily"! Of course emotional scars stay with you your whole life, but it doesn't mean that it weighs him down to the extent that he can't perform because of it. I’m not sure there are many other reasons for a player once touted as having the potential to be the best in the world, that’s played and not performed for a number of the top European clubs is at Stoke in the Championship. Bojan hasn’t performed well for a number of years but has technical ability, he’s tried different countries, different managers, assuming that means different systems and possibly different roles. If it’s not something fundamental like anxiety I’m not sure what other reasons there could be. As I've stated many times before on here, managers seem to agree to be afraid of using him because of their own anxities. He's seen as a luxury they can't afford - because not every game he plays is among "the best in the world" - so he quickly gets the blame. They don't see the opportunity that he might actually get them out of trouble, as playmaker. As for your obvious disdain that such a player "is at Stoke in the Championship", you seem to have forgotten that not so long ago Stoke was playing in the PL at a level just below the top brass, teams which we were beating soundly, partly because of his playmaking efforts. Quite a few things have gone wrong since then, not all of his doing. He might have left Stoke, he probably should have, but the fact is he is here all but unused. I expect he'll play in the Forest game. If GR lives up to his own promises - although he's been seen to break them - he looks likely to field a virtual second string team. In which case we stand a good chance of losing. Then GR can say I gave Bojan a fair chance and he didn't use it. And you and many others will agree saying what a great clearsighted manager we have.
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Post by dirtygary69 on Sept 24, 2018 20:40:12 GMT
Peter Crouch is still used as a plan B over Bojan at the grand old age of 106. I’ll admit that I didn’t really think Bojan would really feature or even be here this season but the fact he’s getting ten minutes here and there in desperation is scandalous really. When you’re doing as badly as we are you need to keep everybody onside. Rowett seems more bothered about digging players out and embarrassing them. They get paid a lot of money and they should be able to take criticism but there’s a way to go about it.
I know we needed changes and they need to be radical but I don’t like the cut of his gib. The problem we have is big name players and a second rate manager. The players should respect the manager whoever it is but it’s a two way street and Rowett needs to rethink what he’s doing if he wants to turn it around.
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Bojan
Sept 24, 2018 22:03:45 GMT
Post by Gob Bluth on Sept 24, 2018 22:03:45 GMT
As I've stated many times before on here, managers seem to agree to be afraid of using him because of their own anxities. He's seen as a luxury they can't afford - because not every game he plays is among "the best in the world" - so he quickly gets the blame. They don't see the opportunity that he might actually get them out of trouble, as playmaker. As for your obvious disdain that such a player "is at Stoke in the Championship", you seem to have forgotten that not so long ago Stoke was playing in the PL at a level just below the top brass, teams which we were beating soundly, partly because of his playmaking efforts. Quite a few things have gone wrong since then, not all of his doing. He might have left Stoke, he probably should have, but the fact is he is here all but unused. I expect he'll play in the Forest game. If GR lives up to his own promises - although he's been seen to break them - he looks likely to field a virtual second string team. In which case we stand a good chance of losing. Then GR can say I gave Bojan a fair chance and he didn't use it. And you and many others will agree saying what a great clearsighted manager we have. I suppose at the heart of it is I believe Bojan has had opportunities under Hughes and under other managers at other clubs. I think you might disagree with that. I have a belief that GR like many others would like to be the manager that made Bojan fulfil his potential. GR has shown in his career that he is ambitious and I think a step that he needs to prove that he can manager super stars, Bojan is a super star independent of age he had the eyes of the footballing world on him. Despite this he's still not using him and I don't think it's out of bravery from the manager I think like other managers they're trying to protect an individual that is only partly built to play this game. Lets hope I'm wrong and it's not anxiety that's hindering his performances and it's just form and that comes flooding back. I don't think we're in a position to be selective on how the points come about.
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Post by kustokie on Sept 24, 2018 23:43:06 GMT
I won a fiver and knew Bera would sky it. He always tries to go hollywood instead of slotting it. It was one of the worst penalty kicks I have ever seen because the goalkeeper dived very early and left 99% of the goal wide open. He probably had enough time to lie down and head it John Ritchie style.
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Bojan
Sept 24, 2018 23:50:03 GMT
Post by kustokie on Sept 24, 2018 23:50:03 GMT
Peter Crouch is still used as a plan B over Bojan at the grand old age of 106. I’ll admit that I didn’t really think Bojan would really feature or even be here this season but the fact he’s getting ten minutes here and there in desperation is scandalous really. When you’re doing as badly as we are you need to keep everybody onside. Rowett seems more bothered about digging players out and embarrassing them. They get paid a lot of money and they should be able to take criticism but there’s a way to go about it. I know we needed changes and they need to be radical but I don’t like the cut of his gib. The problem we have is big name players and a second rate manager. The players should respect the manager whoever it is but it’s a two way street and Rowett needs to rethink what he’s doing if he wants to turn it around. Give over. He has blamed the problems on other fact and tried to deflect the blame. But this is the first time he’s actually named names. He must know the impact of his remarks, unless he’s a complete idiot.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 25, 2018 4:00:50 GMT
I suppose at the heart of it is I believe Bojan has had opportunities under Hughes and under other managers at other clubs. I think you might disagree with that. I have a belief that GR like many others would like to be the manager that made Bojan fulfil his potential. GR has shown in his career that he is ambitious and I think a step that he needs to prove that he can manager super stars, Bojan is a super star independent of age he had the eyes of the footballing world on him. Despite this he's still not using him and I don't think it's out of bravery from the manager I think like other managers they're trying to protect an individual that is only partly built to play this game. Lets hope I'm wrong and it's not anxiety that's hindering his performances and it's just form and that comes flooding back. I don't think we're in a position to be selective on how the points come about. His form has looked good when he's come on, but giving him just five minutes here, seven minutes there, is not going to do his confidence good, is it? Considering how badly we are doing without him, are we really to believe we will do even worse with him in the team?
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Bojan
Sept 25, 2018 4:13:07 GMT
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Post by TexasPotter on Sept 25, 2018 4:13:07 GMT
After midweek I’ll still call Rowett a Charlatan big mouth incapable of using his squad. I’m sure he will find a new way to fuck it all up vs Forest. Who is he going to sideline irrespective of form this week? Afellay?
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Post by nott1 on Sept 25, 2018 6:17:14 GMT
I won a fiver and knew Bera would sky it. He always tries to go hollywood instead of slotting it. It was one of the worst penalty kicks I have ever seen because the goalkeeper dived very early and left 99% of the goal wide open. He probably had enough time to lie down and head it John Ritchie style. I was there when John did that. Now he WAS a striker!
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Post by Bojan Mackey on Sept 25, 2018 6:42:05 GMT
We have Diouf on the wing and Joe Allen charging around aimlessly in midfield like the clown he is and yet Bojan remains superglued to the bench.
Someone ought to be jailed for it.
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Post by ceejays on Sept 25, 2018 6:53:34 GMT
Bojan is THE most gifted player in our squad. I would go as far as to say since Hudson and that includes Shaqiri Arnie and zonz. The idea he can’t cut it in the championship is ludicrous. Rowett has little idea and our star man will eventually leave probably in January and I for one will wish him the best of luck because along with muniesa he’s a smashing lad as someone would say
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Bojan
Sept 25, 2018 7:05:23 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Sept 25, 2018 7:05:23 GMT
Bojan would start a few games and then everyone would be saying he’s not good enough.
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Bojan
Sept 25, 2018 7:08:26 GMT
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Post by berahinosgoals on Sept 25, 2018 7:08:26 GMT
It comes down to styles doesn't it? It's probably not that Rowett doesn't see his talent but he doesn't fit into his style or ideas? No doubt if we got some unknown Spaniard in that plays pretty football bojan would get games.
Players are very much a personal preference for a manager who lives & dies by his results.
Even so, for me with the attacking potential we have in the squad I'd be going top heavy with both afobe, Berahino & bojan/ince just behind
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Post by ceejays on Sept 25, 2018 7:20:19 GMT
Waddo would turn in his grave. The idea we need to play sterile Pulis type football to get out of the championship is the fundamental thing wrong with the family’s strategy. Wolves proved that last year. It’s not difficult to have woods and Allen as holding midfielder and Bojan the link to Berahino who is now the one player showing true energy and I’m up for it. Seeing headless chicken Joe Allen in the role Bojan should be playing beggars belief. But Rowett was a defender as a player though you would not think so atm as he’s had weeks to organise the defence with an army of back room staff. The guy can’t see the end of his nose.
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Post by stokesupporter on Sept 25, 2018 7:21:11 GMT
The minutes Bojan has been playing in his own position this season he has been one of our best players, if not the best. The ball moves so much quicker when he is on the pitch our tempo is generally better. He is also one of our rare players who has an eye for a killer pass and can unlock the opposition defence. He is in form and he has stated himself "being in a good shape". Why he's getting mainly fringe minutes beats me. We are playing poorly as it is so there wouldn't be really any risk at all playing Bojan from the start.
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Bojan
Sept 25, 2018 7:52:22 GMT
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Post by elystokie on Sept 25, 2018 7:52:22 GMT
Waddo would turn in his grave. The idea we need to play sterile Pulis type football to get out of the championship is the fundamental thing wrong with the family’s strategy. Wolves proved that last year. It’s not difficult to have woods and Allen as holding midfielder and Bojan the link to Berahino who is now the one player showing true energy and I’m up for it. Seeing headless chicken Joe Allen in the role Bojan should be playing beggars belief. But Rowett was a defender as a player though you would not think so atm as he’s had weeks to organise the defence with an army of back room staff. The guy can’t see the end of his nose. This, all day long, this. Quite unbelievable that this massive management team with the biggest budget in the division and supposedly some of the best players can't see further than frigging hoofball.
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Bojan
Sept 25, 2018 9:32:31 GMT
Post by apb1 on Sept 25, 2018 9:32:31 GMT
I'm as frustrated as anyone else with the current bilge on the pitch, but there is no player as good in fans' imaginations as the one who is currently not playing. I'd give him more minutes and of course I hope he'd do well, but he's pulled up no trees in any of his loan spells, and I'm not holding my breath. Likewise Bauer, who seemed to be good last season and came out in our first few games in terrible form.
Desperate times..
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Bojan
Sept 25, 2018 15:10:08 GMT
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Post by Fred Ferret on Sept 25, 2018 15:10:08 GMT
Bojan is probably the most talented player we have had at the club since Hudson, but he is simply not interested when he takes to the park, he just gives off the vibe that this is the last place on earth he would rather be. 1 of 20+ players that we need to get rid of in the January window - time for a bold new beginning - out with the old and in with the new Keep: Woods, Etebo, Ince, Afobe, Clucas(hopefully decent) Out: Everybody else A smidgeon over the top!
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Bojan
Sept 25, 2018 15:17:10 GMT
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Post by rawli on Sept 25, 2018 15:17:10 GMT
Waddo would turn in his grave. The idea we need to play sterile Pulis type football to get out of the championship is the fundamental thing wrong with the family’s strategy. Wolves proved that last year. It’s not difficult to have woods and Allen as holding midfielder and Bojan the link to Berahino who is now the one player showing true energy and I’m up for it. Seeing headless chicken Joe Allen in the role Bojan should be playing beggars belief. But Rowett was a defender as a player though you would not think so atm as he’s had weeks to organise the defence with an army of back room staff. The guy can’t see the end of his nose. The family know fuck all about football. The one who knows something about business can't stand it and quite rightly is devoting herself to extracting money from mug punters rather than wasting time on a football club.
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Bojan
Sept 25, 2018 15:22:47 GMT
Post by Deleted on Sept 25, 2018 15:22:47 GMT
Bojan is THE most gifted player in our squad. I would go as far as to say since Hudson and that includes Shaqiri Arnie and zonz. The idea he can’t cut it in the championship is ludicrous. Rowett has little idea and our star man will eventually leave probably in January and I for one will wish him the best of luck because along with muniesa he’s a smashing lad as someone would say If you genuinely believe that, you're fucking mental. Arnie and N'Zonzi were/are world class players, and Shaqiri is a cut above Bojan.
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Bojan
Sept 25, 2018 15:31:54 GMT
Post by nott1 on Sept 25, 2018 15:31:54 GMT
I'd prefer Rowett to leave rather than Bojan and if he doesn't start playing him the GR out calls will get louder!
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Bojan
Sept 25, 2018 15:36:23 GMT
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Post by davejohnno1 on Sept 25, 2018 15:36:23 GMT
Can’t believe again we have let a Failed penalty taker have such a crucial one when Bojan even if just come on because technically he’s got it to slot that home. Joke we are Saido has now missed his last 5 penalties. To have him stepping up to take such a crucial penalty is a dereliction of duty by whoever allowed it to happen. Judging by his presser it would appear that rowett is the one that allowed it to happen through piss poor knowledge and preparation.
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Bojan
Sept 25, 2018 16:34:17 GMT
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Post by ceejays on Sept 25, 2018 16:34:17 GMT
To mr iwibby or whatever name u have yes Bojan TECHNICALLY is best simply because he is two footed. That is the measure. Arnie was close to that I accept but Shaqiri was one footed and did u ever see him take his man on ? No. Nzonzi was a different type altogether but one footed. So yes Bojan is the best. Even technically better than Hudson who was essentially right footed. Of course there are other attributes to consider but technically Bojan is top drawer. And can u possibly debate without recourse to swear words?
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