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Post by Northy on Nov 8, 2018 20:42:29 GMT
He is not a decent PL defender in my opinion, slow, not strong in the air, positional sense average, passing ability average, all in all a shite PL defender in my opinion. I even wtached a couple of the few games he played for Spurs and I got the same impression. That was why I really disliked us going for this player and the price mentioned I really thought was a joke. I t was f-------- true though! Another player we will lose a lot of money on and that we will have to give away sell for peanuts in the end. Did Hughes and co ever see him play before buying!?? He was well liked by the fans at Spurs. Not the ones I know, they laughed at me when they heard the price
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Post by mrcoke on Nov 8, 2018 21:04:46 GMT
Wimmer is a classic case of a sportsman who has spent a long period not playing much competitively and consequently lost his "touch". It can happen through injury most commonly but also spending long periods on the side-lines. I think it can be as much a mental thing as well as physical with a player losing the ability to concentrate and maintain focus. Usually we blame an injury for a players loss of form, but I think that although the body may be fully repaired the mind never fully recovers the mental alertness and awareness that a top class sportsman needs. As well as Wimmer we have seen similar loss of form by Bony and Berahino who "lost it" due to inactivity and "distractions". We have seen the same thing happen in other sports like Tiger Woods, Andy Murray, darts and snooker players. I sympathise strongly with second choice goal keepers, who spend long periods on the bench and are then suddenly expected to perform at their best when needed. Practice and training is not the same as playing in proper matches.
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Post by middleoftheboothen on Nov 8, 2018 21:46:08 GMT
I'll probably get alot of stick for saying it but he is a decent centre back and I don't think we would look worse with him in the side now.
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Post by kjpt140v on Nov 8, 2018 21:50:25 GMT
Foster club don't want him apparently.
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Post by kjpt140v on Nov 8, 2018 21:52:29 GMT
It is actually short shrift......and on all evidence of his displays for us we were quite right in giving it to him. A truly terrible signing that will go down, alongside Gianelli Imbula, in the annals of this football club as one of the worst pieces of transfer business we ever did. That the men who engineered both signings remain in a job to this day is truly bewildering and deeply disappointing. The difference is Imbula is a good player but didn't seem to be able to do it for us. Wimmer just can't do it.
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Post by middleoftheboothen on Nov 8, 2018 21:55:33 GMT
It is actually short shrift......and on all evidence of his displays for us we were quite right in giving it to him. A truly terrible signing that will go down, alongside Gianelli Imbula, in the annals of this football club as one of the worst pieces of transfer business we ever did. That the men who engineered both signings remain in a job to this day is truly bewildering and deeply disappointing. The difference is Imbula is a good player but didn't seem to be able to do it for us. Wimmer just can't do it. He can though can't he and has done.
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Post by kjpt140v on Nov 8, 2018 22:00:01 GMT
The difference is Imbula is a good player but didn't seem to be able to do it for us. Wimmer just can't do it. He can though can't he and has done. Winner can do it you mean? Where have you seen him do it? And I mean live not on a clip or highlights, they mean nothing.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 8, 2018 22:03:37 GMT
He can though can't he and has done. Winner can do it you mean? Where have you seen him do it? And I mean live not on a clip or highlights, they mean nothing. He's on a wind up mate. Wimmer had one just about average game for us from memory. The rest qualify him for a lifetime of flogging.
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Post by middleoftheboothen on Nov 8, 2018 22:05:44 GMT
He can though can't he and has done. Winner can do it you mean? Where have you seen him do it? And I mean live not on a clip or highlights, they mean nothing. Whoosh! Your quote saying Imbula is good was specialist though, I had to get you back.
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Post by kjpt140v on Nov 8, 2018 22:13:08 GMT
Winner can do it you mean? Where have you seen him do it? And I mean live not on a clip or highlights, they mean nothing. Whoosh! Your quote saying Imbula is good was specialist though, I had to get you back. Imbula has done well away from Stoke but not for Stoke. I think really irony doesn't need to be explained. 😖
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Post by kjpt140v on Nov 8, 2018 22:14:10 GMT
Winner can do it you mean? Where have you seen him do it? And I mean live not on a clip or highlights, they mean nothing. He's on a wind up mate. Wimmer had one just about average game for us from memory. The rest qualify him for a lifetime of flogging. Understood and well spotted, it must be my age.
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Post by middleoftheboothen on Nov 8, 2018 22:16:54 GMT
Whoosh! Your quote saying Imbula is good was specialist though, I had to get you back. Imbula has done well away from Stoke but not for Stoke. I think really irony doesn't need to be explained. 😖 Where mate and no highlights?
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Post by kjpt140v on Nov 8, 2018 22:21:12 GMT
Imbula has done well away from Stoke but not for Stoke. I think really irony doesn't need to be explained. 😖 Where mate and no highlights? Plenty in the media about how well he has played at times and how poorly. My point is he can do it but Wimmer can't. As you get more experience you will learn not to be so nasty/cocky on here and debate with respect.
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Post by middleoftheboothen on Nov 8, 2018 22:31:14 GMT
Where mate and no highlights? Plenty in the media about how well he has played at times and how poorly. My point is he can do it but Wimmer can't. As you get more experience you will learn not to be so nasty/cocky on here and debate with respect. At previous clubs Wimmer has had praise from managers and fans alike. Yes Imbula has had praise but also massive criticism as do most players. As I get more experience at what? And where have I been nasty in this debate?
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Post by kjpt140v on Nov 8, 2018 22:39:33 GMT
Plenty in the media about how well he has played at times and how poorly. My point is he can do it but Wimmer can't. As you get more experience you will learn not to be so nasty/cocky on here and debate with respect. At previous clubs Wimmer has had praise from managers and fans alike. Yes Imbula has had praise but also massive criticism as do most players. As I get more experience at what? And where have I been nasty in this debate? You have a tone you need to lighten otherwise you will upset a few people on here. I've had my wrists slapped a number of times and rightfully so.
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Post by Dr Hesham on Nov 8, 2018 22:53:51 GMT
I dont think he is good enough for PL or Championship but still he may be better than Shawcross.
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Post by middleoftheboothen on Nov 8, 2018 23:10:14 GMT
At previous clubs Wimmer has had praise from managers and fans alike. Yes Imbula has had praise but also massive criticism as do most players. As I get more experience at what? And where have I been nasty in this debate? You have a tone you need to lighten otherwise you will upset a few people on here. I've had my wrists slapped a number of times and rightfully so. Other than you tonight I don't believe I have upset anyone on here. All I have said to you is that Wimmer not Winner has been a good player which is a matter of opinion, if you don't agree with me slap my wrist mate.
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Post by BristolMick on Nov 8, 2018 23:51:05 GMT
I dont think he is good enough for PL or Championship but still he may be better than Shawcross. Sadly you could be right Dr. Defending hasn’t been so much of a problem lately though but Butland has been our best player in that department by far. It’s up top we need to sort out first. BM
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Post by Deleted on Nov 9, 2018 16:26:05 GMT
Foster club don't want him apparently. I suspect he is just too expensive for them and they don't think he's worth it, we were after something around £12m for him? I can see him being back at Stoke next season, he'd probably get into our side at the moment at the expense of Williams / Shawcross.
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Post by TexasPotter on Nov 10, 2018 20:42:15 GMT
Wimmer was a fat petulant bitch, I called him Augustus gloop from Charlie and the Chololate Factory. He had a shit attitude throughout he thought he was better than he was and the team. We couldn't control the ball which was supposedly why we bought him to play out the back, he couldn't win aerial duels, he couldn't mark his man and even the manager who ended up paying an exorbitant £13mil pounds a ridiculous joke amount for him singing praises to the moon and back dropped him faster than he could jump ship here at Stoke. Wimmer is still subpar in the German league and to be honest you'd have to be mental to want him back here. Best opening sentence i've seen on this board I do have some good ones 😁
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Dec 5, 2018 16:50:04 GMT
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Post by toppercorner on Dec 5, 2018 17:44:19 GMT
I don't have anything against Wimmer, however for me, this transfer is the biggest mistake we have ever made. It felt pointless at the time, with bloated fees involved for a sub par player.
Complete disaster from start to finish
And to think we let Muni go. His injuries seem to be ok now, which tells me that it was the training where we fucked up (and that's a whole other new issue)
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Post by GeneralFaye on Dec 5, 2018 17:53:06 GMT
I don't have anything against Wimmer, however for me, this transfer is the biggest mistake we have ever made. It felt pointless at the time, with bloated fees involved for a sub par player. Complete disaster from start to finish And to think we let Muni go. His injuries seem to be ok now, which tells me that it was the training where we fucked up (and that's a whole other new issue) Nice use of the word bloated, very apt
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Post by Bojan Mackey on Dec 5, 2018 17:59:22 GMT
I don't have anything against Wimmer, however for me, this transfer is the biggest mistake we have ever made. It felt pointless at the time, with bloated fees involved for a sub par player. Complete disaster from start to finish And to think we let Muni go. His injuries seem to be ok now, which tells me that it was the training where we fucked up (and that's a whole other new issue) Nice use of the word bloated, very apt Bastard, you beat me to that by a gnats bollock.
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Post by chiswickpotter on Dec 5, 2018 20:54:21 GMT
I don't have anything against Wimmer, however for me, this transfer is the biggest mistake we have ever made. It felt pointless at the time, with bloated fees involved for a sub par player. Complete disaster from start to finish And to think we let Muni go. His injuries seem to be ok now, which tells me that it was the training where we fucked up (and that's a whole other new issue) He is currently injured and has only started half of Girona’s games this season, usually at Left Back
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Post by lordb on Dec 5, 2018 22:40:08 GMT
I don't have anything against Wimmer, however for me, this transfer is the biggest mistake we have ever made. It felt pointless at the time, with bloated fees involved for a sub par player. Complete disaster from start to finish And to think we let Muni go. His injuries seem to be ok now, which tells me that it was the training where we fucked up (and that's a whole other new issue) He is currently injured and has only started half of Girona’s games this season, usually at Left Back Excellent player that he is Muniesa is the epitome of injury prone😥
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Post by mrcoke on Dec 5, 2018 23:28:30 GMT
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Post by hanibal7 on Dec 5, 2018 23:54:12 GMT
I don't have anything against Wimmer, however for me, this transfer is the biggest mistake we have ever made. It felt pointless at the time, with bloated fees involved for a sub par player. Complete disaster from start to finish And to think we let Muni go. His injuries seem to be ok now, which tells me that it was the training where we fucked up (and that's a whole other new issue) He is currently injured and has only started half of Girona’s games this season, usually at Left Back He played 10 games last season, glad he is injury free though, pmsl
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Post by thebet365 on Dec 6, 2018 0:23:04 GMT
Not really, they're paying his wages in full which saves us a few million.
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Post by TexasPotter on Dec 6, 2018 2:49:11 GMT
We haven't made Germans pay this much money since the war. It's all that Austrian's fault! 🤣
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