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Post by shrewspotter on Aug 24, 2018 9:43:10 GMT
Quiz question. Who was the last Stoke player before Woods-Percy with a double barrelled surname? Brendan O-Callaghan? Choupo-Moting! Noel-Williams
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Post by Veritas on Aug 24, 2018 9:46:11 GMT
Neville Two-Ton Southall
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Post by Laughing Gravy on Aug 24, 2018 9:48:57 GMT
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Post by neilb987 on Aug 24, 2018 9:51:26 GMT
Not sure about this one. A midfield 3 of Allen Etebo and Woods would never, ever win a header. From what I've seen of Woods he's no midfield enforcer/gritty tackler either. The problem we have is that we allow players to just stream almost full tilt towards our defence, not sure Woods prevents that in any way. He certainly looks more of a 'playmaker' type of defensive midfielder than just an enforcer, but that's no bad thing, surely?
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Post by nigerianstokie on Aug 24, 2018 9:51:42 GMT
How is it not Choupo-Moting?
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Post by magliarosa on Aug 24, 2018 9:52:38 GMT
Ed de Goey
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Post by spitthedog on Aug 24, 2018 9:52:56 GMT
Not sure about this one. A midfield 3 of Allen Etebo and Woods would never, ever win a header. From what I've seen of Woods he's no midfield enforcer/gritty tackler either. The problem we have is that we allow players to just stream almost full tilt towards our defence, not sure Woods prevents that in any way. To take up your last point, this is the critical point for me. Wigan were moving through our midfield like a dose of salts putting pressure on an already vulnerable defence. No protection of the defence from midfield combined with no midfield creativity going forward, lack of composure and lack of pace in the centre of the park is a disaster waiting to happen.
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Post by Meirparkstokie on Aug 24, 2018 9:56:37 GMT
Not sure about this one. A midfield 3 of Allen Etebo and Woods would never, ever win a header. From what I've seen of Woods he's no midfield enforcer/gritty tackler either. The problem we have is that we allow players to just stream almost full tilt towards our defence, not sure Woods prevents that in any way. To take up your last point, this is the critical point for me. Wigan were moving through our midfield like a dose of salts putting pressure on an already vulnerable defence. No protection of the defence from midfield combined with no midfield creativity going forward, lack of composure and lack of pace in the centre of the park is a disaster waiting to happen. I know I’m going to get lynched for this but I’d play Charlie Adam. He’s got a lot of faults but he’s passionate and will put challenges in (although there’s a fair chance he’ll completely miss the ball and get a red!!)
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Post by Deleted on Aug 24, 2018 10:04:57 GMT
I would think Gifton Noel-Williams Well played sir. According to the chap sat next to me he was actually named Noel Gifton-Williams - in the great SCFC supporter tradition of getting the players names wrong i.e. Charlie Adams, Beg Ovick, Peskydildo etc etc. Could have been my old man! He was convinced that it was Noel Gifton-Williams. Never heard anybody claim the other four permutations though.
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Post by datguy on Aug 24, 2018 10:06:22 GMT
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Post by midtempo on Aug 24, 2018 10:06:31 GMT
To take up your last point, this is the critical point for me. Wigan were moving through our midfield like a dose of salts putting pressure on an already vulnerable defence. No protection of the defence from midfield combined with no midfield creativity going forward, lack of composure and lack of pace in the centre of the park is a disaster waiting to happen. I know I’m going to get lynched for this but I’d play Charlie Adam. He’s got a lot of faults but he’s passionate and will put challenges in (although there’s a fair chance he’ll completely miss the ball and get a red!!) Unfortunately Charlie is probably the only midfielder who always looks to play the ball forward as per the new TV phrase "Front Foot Football ", In the Preston Game Benike was on the shoulder of the defender looking for a through ball from Darren Fergusson (LOL!) and guess what he played it wide to Ince . It worked with Gleggy just get everybody else to do the running and covering for him.
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Post by daz2631 on Aug 24, 2018 10:06:50 GMT
Said this wednesday charlie cant be any worse than fletcher at least he will show some passion and can pass forward to a stoke shirt
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Post by boskampsflaps on Aug 24, 2018 10:12:56 GMT
Said this wednesday charlie cant be any worse than fletcher at least he will show some passion and can pass forward to a stoke shirt Can he though, his legs are worse than Fletcher and his passing ability seems to have left him over the last few years, he's another that needs to be gone.
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Post by jezzascfc on Aug 24, 2018 10:13:50 GMT
Delighted by Woods' signing, just what we need, the heir apparent to Glenn Whelan. With Clucas, when fit, and Etebo, once adjusted to English football, we will see a far different midfield to that which has been so feeble this season so far.
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Post by sportsman on Aug 24, 2018 10:16:14 GMT
Friday signing. Who'd have thought it.
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Post by realstokebloke on Aug 24, 2018 10:16:47 GMT
I know I’m going to get lynched for this but I’d play Charlie Adam. He’s got a lot of faults but he’s passionate and will put challenges in (although there’s a fair chance he’ll completely miss the ball and get a red!!) Unfortunately Charlie is probably the only midfielder who always looks to play the ball forward as per the new TV phrase "Front Foot Football ", In the Preston Game Benike was on the shoulder of the defender looking for a through ball from Darren Fergusson (LOL!) and guess what he played it wide to Ince . It worked with Gleggy just get everybody else to do the running and covering for him. Yup. That was so frustrating. Stevie Wonder could have seen that pass and probably played it too. And that's why Fletcher has to go (The other one was when he - DF - bottled a shot himself in a similar position.)
That said, I don't disagree that Charlie has that ability and 'side' to his game but it's now nearly everything else that is the issue: fitness, mobility & his walking yellow / red card-ness ; )
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Post by 19notbeaten72 on Aug 24, 2018 10:18:37 GMT
Said this wednesday charlie cant be any worse than fletcher at least he will show some passion and can pass forward to a stoke shirt I would play Charlie over Fletcher every time & he would dish out a few bollockings as well.
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Post by jezzascfc on Aug 24, 2018 10:18:42 GMT
Unfortunately Charlie is probably the only midfielder who always looks to play the ball forward as per the new TV phrase "Front Foot Football ", In the Preston Game Benike was on the shoulder of the defender looking for a through ball from Darren Fergusson (LOL!) and guess what he played it wide to Ince . It worked with Gleggy just get everybody else to do the running and covering for him. Yup. That was so frustrating. Stevie Wonder could have seen that pass and probably played it too. And that's why Fletcher has to go (The other one was when he - DF - bottled a shot himself in a similar position.)
That said, I don't disagree that Charlie has that ability and 'side' to his game but it's now nearly everything else that is the issue: fitness, mobility & his walking yellow / red card-ness ; )
Haven't read the whole argument but is someone really calling for the recall of Charlie Adam? Really? I despair!
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Post by jezzascfc on Aug 24, 2018 10:19:34 GMT
Said this wednesday charlie cant be any worse than fletcher at least he will show some passion and can pass forward to a stoke shirt I would play Charlie over Fletcher every time & he would dish out a few bollockings as well. I'd play my nan over Fletcher, but that doesn't mean she should start tomorrow v Hull!
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Post by dadofsam on Aug 24, 2018 10:19:44 GMT
Getting him in before Badou fucks off - big change in position, someone's had a word.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 24, 2018 10:23:57 GMT
Getting him in before Badou fucks off - big change in position, someone's had a word. Sounds more like 20 thousand people have had a word.
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Post by neddy on Aug 24, 2018 10:24:53 GMT
Does anybody know if he is at CW?
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Post by wuzza on Aug 24, 2018 10:29:01 GMT
Charlie offers something no one else in the squad does - he can pass. If we weren’t so threadbare in term of defensive cover in the midfield he would be a very viable option for us. It’s a testament to our unbalanced squad that he hasn’t featured this season.
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Post by daz2631 on Aug 24, 2018 10:30:39 GMT
Anybody remember jan molby at dippers yrs ago his legs gone overweight remind u of anyone all he did was play in centre circle and just spray ball around if woods signs could we let charlie do this at least he is creative i know its not ideal
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Post by mrcoke on Aug 24, 2018 10:32:07 GMT
If this guy does join us, I hope some of the instant judges on here are going to be patient and let him "play into form", which they clearly have not done with other signings.
He has not played yet this season so he is going to need game time.
(I'm aware this will fall on some deaf ears.)
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Post by Davef on Aug 24, 2018 10:35:56 GMT
Anybody remember jan molby at dippers yrs ago his legs gone overweight remind u of anyone all he did was play in centre circle and just spray ball around if woods signs could we let charlie do this at least he is creative i know its not ideal I also remember the players Molby lined up alongside. Weren't exactly Erik Pieters, James McClean and Saido Berahino were they?
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Post by kristoff on Aug 24, 2018 10:41:09 GMT
If this guy does join us, I hope some of the instant judges on here are going to be patient and let him "play into form", which they clearly have not done with other signings. He has not played yet this season so he is going to need game time. (I'm aware this will fall on some deaf ears.) Agree, this board is far too quick to slaughter anyone for anything (although recently it’s mostly with good cause). He did manage 90 mins in the cup I think, but with his issues and ours atm he needs a fair few games to settle, not that he’ll get it sadly
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Post by Deleted on Aug 24, 2018 10:45:52 GMT
Not sure about this one. A midfield 3 of Allen Etebo and Woods would never, ever win a header. From what I've seen of Woods he's no midfield enforcer/gritty tackler either. The problem we have is that we allow players to just stream almost full tilt towards our defence, not sure Woods prevents that in any way. To take up your last point, this is the critical point for me. Wigan were moving through our midfield like a dose of salts putting pressure on an already vulnerable defence. No protection of the defence from midfield combined with no midfield creativity going forward, lack of composure and lack of pace in the centre of the park is a disaster waiting to happen. You take a lot of pressure off the defence by having midfielders who want the ball though. Fletcher and Allen were pathetic cowards on Wednesday, after the goal they hid behind the Wigan midfield at all opportunities, meaning our already terrified defence had to just hoof it forward, and it'd come back again straight at them. I honestly believe Woods (or a similar non-coward) would completely change our team.
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Post by jimmygscfc on Aug 24, 2018 10:46:52 GMT
Charlie Adam in a midfield two would be terrifying to watch. Stop clutching at straws. Clucas, Woods, Allen and Etebo is a decent clutch to choose from. It's up to Rowett to get the mix right.
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Post by terryconroysmagic on Aug 24, 2018 10:47:46 GMT
Good effort, sir. In second place so far. Bruno???
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