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Post by musik on Jun 29, 2018 14:46:50 GMT
They think it is bad now wait until 17 odd million remoaners are heading their way (wave) 17 million remoaners from where, to where?
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Post by harryburrows on Jun 29, 2018 14:47:16 GMT
Trouble is if you do assist them, When you leave most of them are just corrupt and let it go again. Look at how the ANC are holding South Africa back, Zimbabwe, Sudan, Egypt etc. I know this is a thing in my imagination but isn't it the job of the UN to stop all wars? Are you suggesting that the UN has been derelict in it's duty and is not fit for purpose. "Role of the Security Council. The Security Council has primary responsibility, under the United Nations Charter, for the maintenance of international peace and security. It is for the Security Council to determine when and where a UN Peacekeeping operation should be deployed." The UN has never been fit for purpose , the so called peacekeepers stood and watched the genocide as it happened in Bosnia , they are next to worthless in a conflict zone . The security council will achieve nothing while Russia is a member , they first and foremost will always put their own strategic interests first before the greater good as was shown recently in Syria
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Post by The Drunken Communist on Jun 29, 2018 15:50:22 GMT
The security council will achieve nothing while Russia is a member , they first and foremost will always put their own strategic interests first before the greater good as was shown recently in Syria Yeah, why can't they be more like the UK & US who always put 'the greater good' before their own strategic interests. ???
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Post by harryburrows on Jun 29, 2018 17:08:29 GMT
The security council will achieve nothing while Russia is a member , they first and foremost will always put their own strategic interests first before the greater good as was shown recently in Syria Yeah, why can't they be more like the UK & US who always put 'the greater good' before their own strategic interests. ??? Yes like blocking any actions against Assad who gassed countless woman and children in his own country
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Post by bigjohnritchie on Jun 30, 2018 18:52:17 GMT
Yeah, why can't they be more like the UK & US who always put 'the greater good' before their own strategic interests. ??? Yes like blocking any actions against Assad who gassed countless woman and children in his own country Harry it's worth looking at the work e DV8. They are a verbatim theatre company. In this clip All the words are verified as spoken by those involved in the issues. The United Nations sounds good, it has all the right words for marketing purposes. Unfortunately it is propogating a one thought system, to which we all have e conform, in my opinion. ( It's frightening what the clip says about Islam)
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Post by The Drunken Communist on Jun 30, 2018 19:27:21 GMT
Yeah, why can't they be more like the UK & US who always put 'the greater good' before their own strategic interests. ??? Yes like blocking any actions against Assad who gassed countless woman and children in his own country Yeah, Saddam had Nukes that could wipe out the Western World in 10 minutes aswell.
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Post by harryburrows on Jul 1, 2018 5:46:12 GMT
Yes like blocking any actions against Assad who gassed countless woman and children in his own country Yeah, Saddam had Nukes that could wipe out the Western World in 10 minutes aswell. I've often said the coalition destruction of Iraq was nothing more than a war crime from bush and Blair
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Post by harryburrows on Jul 1, 2018 6:00:39 GMT
Yes like blocking any actions against Assad who gassed countless woman and children in his own country Harry it's worth looking at the work e DV8. They are a verbatim theatre company. In this clip All the words are verified as spoken by those involved in the issues. The United Nations sounds good, it has all the right words for marketing purposes. Unfortunately it is propogating a one thought system, to which we all have e conform, in my opinion. ( It's frightening what the clip says about Islam) Yes , mate very scary
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Post by bigjohnritchie on Jul 28, 2018 8:50:11 GMT
One thing I don't quite understand: The EU , and therefore the French being party to the decision, have encouraged immigration/ refugees/ asylum seekers. Why don't they do something positive for them and make them welcome once they are in their country? It just seems ludicrous to me, to ask/ expect a group of people to come into your country and then to Keep moving them on. What were they expecting/ what do they want them to do? ...,.................... French riot police clear 1,000 migrants from Paris makeshift camp People sleeping rough along canal Saint-Denis moved to shelters in clearance operation Local authorities said the dawn operation was the 35th police eviction of camps in Paris in the past three years. There has been a cycle of tents being evacuated and destroyed. But homeless migrants and asylum seekers with no other solution often quickly set up camp elsewhere in the city in squalid locations that are becoming more and more remote. www.theguardian.com/world/2018/may/30/french-riot-police-clear-1000-migrants-from-paris-makeshift-camp
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Post by bigjohnritchie on Jul 30, 2018 11:53:39 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jul 31, 2018 5:41:33 GMT
If you neighbour wants to move in with you because his house is shit, surely you help him fix his house not adopt him for life. That's where the problem lies for me the lack of will to make their countries batter, it has to be the long term solution otherwise they will just become a migrant breading ground. Which is unsustainable. Their countries were fine before the USA , Britain , Russia etc started to interfere Don't forget the French...those pesky frogs get away with everything
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Post by partickpotter on Jul 31, 2018 6:02:34 GMT
I know this is a thing in my imagination but isn't it the job of the UN to stop all wars? Are you suggesting that the UN has been derelict in it's duty and is not fit for purpose. "Role of the Security Council. The Security Council has primary responsibility, under the United Nations Charter, for the maintenance of international peace and security. It is for the Security Council to determine when and where a UN Peacekeeping operation should be deployed." The UN has never been fit for purpose , the so called peacekeepers stood and watched the genocide as it happened in Bosnia , they are next to worthless in a conflict zone . The security council will achieve nothing while Russia is a member , they first and foremost will always put their own strategic interests first before the greater good as was shown recently in Syria Reminds me of an old NTNON sketch about the UN which went along these lines... The crisis will be UNsolved Good work will be UNdone Promises will be UNkept People will be made UNsafe The UN failings, as you say, have been around for a long time!
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Post by bigjohnritchie on Oct 7, 2019 17:11:18 GMT
If Asylum seekers are offered what is listed on the link below why don't we approach every homeless person sleeping on the street and offer the same.( Obviously this could encourage unfair play but in principle, why not?) Apparently the list is printed and hard copies are well known amongst the migrants in France.... hence they want to come to the UK. www.gov.uk/asylum-support/what-youll-get
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Post by musik on Oct 7, 2019 19:04:39 GMT
If Asylum seekers are offered what is listed on the link below why don't we approach every homeless person sleeping on the street and offer the same.( Obviously this could encourage unfair play but in principle, why not?) Apparently the list is printed and hard copies are well known amongst the migrants in France.... hence they want to come to the UK. www.gov.uk/asylum-support/what-youll-getThe immigrants come to Sweden and seek help and get it. The homeless swedes don't get any help unless they seek help themselves, but most of them don't want to have anything to do with the authorities. That's why.
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Post by musik on Oct 7, 2019 19:23:26 GMT
Climate change is going to massively increase the numbers of refugees in the future. Hopefully, technological advancements in the food industry can help to negate the worst effects on the most unfortunate of people. One thing seems clear to me though, a growing human population on a planet that is becoming less fertile is going to lead to a lot more abject misery in the near future. From the year 2011 1 million migrants came from Syria into Europe because of a war fueled by drought. Predictions made by UN say in 2050, just thirty years from now - when many of us Oatcakers are still around - somewhere between 200 to 1000 millions will be climate refugees. One of the main reasons for this, according to David Wallace-Wells, is the increasing population growth on planet Earth, where everyone leaves a carbon footprint.
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Post by bigjohnritchie on Oct 7, 2019 19:27:46 GMT
If Asylum seekers are offered what is listed on the link below why don't we approach every homeless person sleeping on the street and offer the same.( Obviously this could encourage unfair play but in principle, why not?) Apparently the list is printed and hard copies are well known amongst the migrants in France.... hence they want to come to the UK. www.gov.uk/asylum-support/what-youll-getThe immigrants come to Sweden and seek help and get it. The homeless swedes don't get any help unless they seek help themselves, but most of them don't want to have anything to do with the authorities. That's why. My view on the homeless ) sleeping rough in cities would be again to try to change the culture perhaps the stick and stone" Sorry you are not allowed to sleep here, It's against the law... but here are your options...." Then offered something along the lines of that offered to asylum seekers PLUS a key worker
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Post by musik on Oct 7, 2019 19:35:01 GMT
The immigrants come to Sweden and seek help and get it. The homeless swedes don't get any help unless they seek help themselves, but most of them don't want to have anything to do with the authorities. That's why. My view on the homeless ) sleeping rough in cities would be again to try to change the culture perhaps the stick and stone" Sorry you are not allowed to sleep here, It's against the law... but here are your options...." Then offered something along the lines of that offered to asylum seekers PLUS a key worker 👍 When I become world Dictator noone on this planet would go hungry and noone would be without a place called their own, to stay in with a nice bed. That's a start at least.
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Post by zerps on Oct 8, 2019 16:13:25 GMT
My view on the homeless ) sleeping rough in cities would be again to try to change the culture perhaps the stick and stone" Sorry you are not allowed to sleep here, It's against the law... but here are your options...." Then offered something along the lines of that offered to asylum seekers PLUS a key worker 👍 When I become world Dictator noone on this planet would go hungry and noone would be without a place called their own, to stay in with a nice bed. That's a start at least. Nah, you’ll get drunk on power, sex robots and monkey dust.
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Post by bigjohnritchie on Jan 15, 2020 20:48:38 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jan 15, 2020 21:35:45 GMT
It’s The Sun fella, best to just ignore it.....
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Post by bigjohnritchie on Jan 15, 2020 21:46:07 GMT
It’s The Sun fella, best to just ignore it..... Aye, it's a real working class paper, not the one of the chattering classes, the great Labour MPs who really represent us. I don't read it myself....but perhaps now and again it might just hit the nerve youth. I think it's best to listen to everybody and make your own mind up.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 15, 2020 21:52:07 GMT
It’s The Sun fella, best to just ignore it..... Aye, it's a real working class paper, not the one of the chattering classes, the great Labour MPs who really represent us. I don't read it myself....but perhaps now and again it might just hit the nerve youth. I think it's best to listen to everybody and make your own mind up. Whether it’s working class or not it’s an absolute rag.....
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Post by RipRoaringPotter on Jan 15, 2020 22:08:25 GMT
It’s The Sun fella, best to just ignore it..... Aye, it's a real working class paper, not the one of the chattering classes, the great Labour MPs who really represent us. I don't read it myself....but perhaps now and again it might just hit the nerve youth. I think it's best to listen to everybody and make your own mind up. There's no evidence that that guy gets that amount of money: www.snopes.com/fact-check/muslim-migrant-benefits/In fact at the bottom of the article, it is stated he would not be allowed to recognise four wives so could not claim for all the wives and the children of all his wives.
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Post by bigjohnritchie on Jan 15, 2020 22:11:27 GMT
Aye, it's a real working class paper, not the one of the chattering classes, the great Labour MPs who really represent us. I don't read it myself....but perhaps now and again it might just hit the nerve youth. I think it's best to listen to everybody and make your own mind up. Whether it’s working class or not it’s an absolute rag..... But perhaps it hits the nerve sometimes
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Post by bigjohnritchie on Jan 15, 2020 22:14:37 GMT
Aye, it's a real working class paper, not the one of the chattering classes, the great Labour MPs who really represent us. I don't read it myself....but perhaps now and again it might just hit the nerve youth. I think it's best to listen to everybody and make your own mind up. There's no evidence that that guy gets that amount of money: www.snopes.com/fact-check/muslim-migrant-benefits/In fact at the bottom of the article, it is stated he would not be allowed to recognise four wives so could not claim for all the wives and the children of all his wives. So, I wonder how much he gets then? Nothing?
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Post by bigjohnritchie on Jan 15, 2020 22:27:38 GMT
Aye, it's a real working class paper, not the one of the chattering classes, the great Labour MPs who really represent us. I don't read it myself....but perhaps now and again it might just hit the nerve youth. I think it's best to listen to everybody and make your own mind up. There's no evidence that that guy gets that amount of money: www.snopes.com/fact-check/muslim-migrant-benefits/In fact at the bottom of the article, it is stated he would not be allowed to recognise four wives so could not claim for all the wives and the children of all his wives. Page 11 of this briefing seems to suggest that the UK does recognise polygamy and pays benefits as we try to come to terms with the cultural clash.....I'm sure that you agree that polygamy has no part in the British culture...don't you?.....perhaps not . Gov.uk. BRIEFING PAPER Number 05051, 20 November 2018 Polygamy ( you'd have to Google it , it's a pdf and I can't do the link) "3. Polygamy: social security benefits The basic position is that some benefits can be paid, in certain cases, in respect of more than one spouse. Rules enabling the payment of some benefits in respect of some polygamous marriages have been in force for some time; for example, in relation to Income Support, the current rules have applied since 1987."
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Post by crapslinger on Jan 15, 2020 22:34:34 GMT
Aye, it's a real working class paper, not the one of the chattering classes, the great Labour MPs who really represent us. I don't read it myself....but perhaps now and again it might just hit the nerve youth. I think it's best to listen to everybody and make your own mind up. There's no evidence that that guy gets that amount of money: www.snopes.com/fact-check/muslim-migrant-benefits/In fact at the bottom of the article, it is stated he would not be allowed to recognise four wives so could not claim for all the wives and the children of all his wives. Coffee smell wake and up sunshine, the truth is about to come out finally charity begins at home, time is ticking on these freeloaders at last we have been a soft touch for far to long, time to grow a pair and take back control of our own country
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Post by bigjohnritchie on Jan 15, 2020 22:40:56 GMT
There's no evidence that that guy gets that amount of money: www.snopes.com/fact-check/muslim-migrant-benefits/In fact at the bottom of the article, it is stated he would not be allowed to recognise four wives so could not claim for all the wives and the children of all his wives. Coffee smell wake and up sunshine, the truth is about to come out finally charity begins at home, time is ticking on these freeloaders at last we have been a soft touch for far to long, time to grow a pair and take back control of our own country Crap I don't think it's even about " charity". We have emough problems on our own doorstep ( eg. Homeless rough sleepers, mental health issues and genuine prospects for the young, knife crime , housing etc.) before we pay ridiculous benefits....to those who just want to take advantage of the system.....as I know you agree. Polygamy should not even be on the agenda in this country and it's ridiculous to suggest it should.
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Post by mrcoke on Jan 15, 2020 22:54:41 GMT
If you neighbour wants to move in with you because his house is shit, surely you help him fix his house not adopt him for life. That's where the problem lies for me the lack of will to make their countries better, it has to be the long term solution otherwise they will just become a migrant breading ground. Which is unsustainable. "Give a man a fish and he can eat today, teach a man to fish and he can eat for life"
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Post by mrcoke on Jan 15, 2020 23:22:20 GMT
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