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Post by boothenesque on Jun 19, 2018 7:43:26 GMT
Anyone else been scammed by these "builders". Found quite a lot of others. They take a deposit and consider it a donation. If anyone else scammed I can put give contacts at Staffs Police and Trading Standards.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 19, 2018 8:09:21 GMT
Where are they based - in Stoke ?
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Post by boothenesque on Jun 19, 2018 14:22:22 GMT
Based around Newcastle. I was just called by a terminally ill couple they have done for £13k, got loads of others. Although I have contacts at Staffs Police they couldn't give a toss. It just seems right that if I could save one person from these parasites then it's something at least.
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Post by 3putts on Jun 19, 2018 14:52:35 GMT
give that guy from rogue traders a bell.if they are ripping people off then they should be named and shamed on national tv
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Post by Deleted on Jun 19, 2018 14:56:52 GMT
give that guy from rogue traders a bell.if they are ripping people off then they should be named and shamed on national tv Quite right ! I was going to suggest Rogue Traders as well. Name and shame them - absolutely disgraceful that they can act like this and so far get away with it.
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Post by metalhead on Jun 19, 2018 15:45:30 GMT
What is their trading name? I can't find anything about them on the internet.
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Post by chigstoke on Jun 19, 2018 17:16:11 GMT
Tell your story to Watchdog, type contact watchdog on Google and click the first BBC link.
Get the named and shamed. I suspect they would be able to do the research into the real trading name as Google simply shows no results for them.
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Post by tuum on Jun 19, 2018 18:29:59 GMT
Based around Newcastle. I was just called by a terminally ill couple they have done for £13k, got loads of others. Although I have contacts at Staffs Police they couldn't give a toss. It just seems right that if I could save one person from these parasites then it's something at least. I have fallen foul of UK police (or more accurately, UK justice). They know it is happening they choose not to bother. As far as they are concerned it is a civil matter...knowing full well that 99% of law abiding citizens will not pursue a civil case because of the cost and the very real risk that they will not get justice. I have detailed experience on more than one occasion of how poor the UK has become in terms of protecting the average law abiding citizen. If you have no moral conscience it is very easy to rip people off in the UK. The law and its enforcers struggles to protect ordinary people against charlatans. I am very wary of doing business with anyone in the UK these days.
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Post by algor on Jun 19, 2018 21:03:58 GMT
Based around Newcastle. I was just called by a terminally ill couple they have done for £13k, got loads of others. Although I have contacts at Staffs Police they couldn't give a toss. It just seems right that if I could save one person from these parasites then it's something at least. I have fallen foul of UK police (or more accurately, UK justice). They know it is happening they choose not to bother. As far as they are concerned it is a civil matter...knowing full well that 99% of law abiding citizens will not pursue a civil case because of the cost and the very real risk that they will not get justice. I have detailed experience on more than one occasion of how poor the UK has become in terms of protecting the average law abiding citizen. If you have no moral conscience it is very easy to rip people off in the UK. The law and its enforcers struggles to protect ordinary people against charlatans. I am very wary of doing business with anyone in the UK these days. Hi Tuum, my name is Harry. My nan is looking to move some money out of the country but due to my recent marriage I can't help. We have 30 million USD ready to put into a Kazakhstan or a Thai bank account. Can you help? If so I will share 10 million USD with you. Please PM me, I will give you the banking details so that you can open your account with 10,000 USD. I can then put your millions into your account. Thanks Tuum!
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Post by boothenesque on Jun 19, 2018 23:38:52 GMT
Tell your story to Watchdog, type contact watchdog on Google and click the first BBC link. Get the named and shamed. I suspect they would be able to do the research into the real trading name as Google simply shows no results for them. They go by a number of names - JB Hpme Improvements, JB Homes UK and Easyseal
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Post by boothenesque on Jun 19, 2018 23:50:18 GMT
I have fallen foul of UK police (or more accurately, UK justice). They know it is happening they choose not to bother. As far as they are concerned it is a civil matter...knowing full well that 99% of law abiding citizens will not pursue a civil case because of the cost and the very real risk that they will not get justice. I have detailed experience on more than one occasion of how poor the UK has become in terms of protecting the average law abiding citizen. If you have no moral conscience it is very easy to rip people off in the UK. The law and its enforcers struggles to protect ordinary people against charlatans. I am very wary of doing business with anyone in the UK these days. Hi Tuum, my name is Harry. My nan is looking to move some money out of the country but due to my recent marriage I can't help. We have 30 million USD ready to put into a Kazakhstan or a Thai bank account. Can you help? If so I will share 10 million USD with you. Please PM me, I will give you the banking details so that you can open your account with 10,000 USD. I can then put your millions into your account. Thanks Tuum! They have loads of CCJs and i have added 2. You're right, the police don't give a toss and many people could have been spared crushing losses if only they cared. it's not just the costs and futility but they rely on people feeling humiliated and the pain of the loss and obstacles that add to it.
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Post by tuum on Jun 20, 2018 1:46:13 GMT
I have fallen foul of UK police (or more accurately, UK justice). They know it is happening they choose not to bother. As far as they are concerned it is a civil matter...knowing full well that 99% of law abiding citizens will not pursue a civil case because of the cost and the very real risk that they will not get justice. I have detailed experience on more than one occasion of how poor the UK has become in terms of protecting the average law abiding citizen. If you have no moral conscience it is very easy to rip people off in the UK. The law and its enforcers struggles to protect ordinary people against charlatans. I am very wary of doing business with anyone in the UK these days. Hi Tuum, my name is Harry. My nan is looking to move some money out of the country but due to my recent marriage I can't help. We have 30 million USD ready to put into a Kazakhstan or a Thai bank account. Can you help? If so I will share 10 million USD with you. Please PM me, I will give you the banking details so that you can open your account with 10,000 USD. I can then put your millions into your account. Thanks Tuum! I wish it was as obvious as that. There is no doubt that I could have helped myself by being a little more diligent but the fact remains that the people who ripped me off were allowed to do so in full view of the law and are still allowed to do so now. The laws in the UK are pretty weak in my opinion and can be circumvented quite easily by unscrupulous people and their lawyers. One of them was an estate agent who stole 6mths rent and did not protect the tenants deposit. Police were not interested..said he told them it was a short term cash flow problem so it was a civil matter to them. He was jailed 6 months later for 4months (out in two). His crime? An old lady needed to sell her home to go into care. He received an offer of 85,000 for the house but told her it was 75,000. Fully intending to pocket the 10,000 for himself. He got 2 months and I have no doubt that he is out now carrying on as before. Don't get me started on the saga that came out of failing to protect the deposit. The general incompetence and unfairness was a great lesson to me. I am still dealing with the fallout from this today. It's a real pain in the arse.
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Post by chigstoke on Jun 20, 2018 7:40:21 GMT
Tell your story to Watchdog, type contact watchdog on Google and click the first BBC link. Get the named and shamed. I suspect they would be able to do the research into the real trading name as Google simply shows no results for them. They go by a number of names - JB Hpme Improvements, JB Homes UK and Easyseal I think this is them? JBHomeImprovementsThey primarily work in Staffordshire and Cheshire but their registered address is in London, but I don't run a business so I don't know if that's dodgy but I'd have thought they'd have registered offices in the areas they work? As I said before mate, get in touch with Watchdog, give them that web address and their number at the bottom of the website.
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Post by felonious on Jun 20, 2018 8:00:02 GMT
They go by a number of names - JB Hpme Improvements, JB Homes UK and Easyseal I think this is them? JBHomeImprovementsThey primarily work in Staffordshire and Cheshire but their registered address is in London, but I don't run a business so I don't know if that's dodgy but I'd have thought they'd have registered offices in the areas they work? As I said before mate, get in touch with Watchdog, give them that web address and their number at the bottom of the website. They're using a Registered Office service. www.companiesmadesimple.com/project/blog/20-22-wenlock-road-registered-office/
A cursory look at the Companies House website suggests the company was dormant (not trading) as at 30th September 2017.
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Post by boothenesque on Jun 20, 2018 9:17:33 GMT
I think this is them? JBHomeImprovementsThey primarily work in Staffordshire and Cheshire but their registered address is in London, but I don't run a business so I don't know if that's dodgy but I'd have thought they'd have registered offices in the areas they work? As I said before mate, get in touch with Watchdog, give them that web address and their number at the bottom of the website. They're using a Registered Office service. www.companiesmadesimple.com/project/blog/20-22-wenlock-road-registered-office/
A cursory look at the Companies House website suggests the company was dormant (not trading) as at 30th September 2017.
JB Home Improvments Ltd JB Homes UK Ltd Easyseal (Cheshire) LtdPeople involved, Stoke fans, Richard Blundred, 'Rocket' Ron Johnson, his son Rob Johnson & Krisstoffer Henshall.JB Home Improvements were to be compulsory struck off in Dec, which is when I suspected something was bad. I forced their office door and found the contracts that ended up being victims. I contacted Companies House and as a result the company filed unaudited accounts totalling £0 (zero), which contradicts the unsettled CCJs and the values of the contract. It turn out the office in Ironmarket was abandoned. That company is registered in London but earlier in 2007 they incorporated JB Home UK with the registered address at that same address in Ironmarket with the same people involved although they said it was completely unconnected to JB Home Improvements. Around the same time they set up Easyseal and it seems this is the fraud vehicle they are currently using. Previous companies have been JDC (Staffs) using the matriarch Jaqueline Denise Johnson, ELJ Construction, RJ Construction. All compulsory struck off for non-filing, flushed down the toilet by the Companies House clean-up service to render any actions against these companies null and void, only to then reward these non-taxpaying parasites with a new company to go and rip off a new set of victims. And so it goes on.
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Post by boothenesque on Jun 20, 2018 9:22:25 GMT
In the main they prey on more vulnerable people, older, disabled, those that would find it hard to fight back, will feel ashamed and humiliated, isolated, intimidated by them and the authorities who put every obstacle in the way of justice. This latest one that contacted me has prompted me to do this because it particularly sickening picking on a terminally ill couple, this being in February after I have sent 100s of emails to the various so-called authorities from December but the authorities chose to do nothing and this couple could have been spared this trauma.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 20, 2018 9:50:46 GMT
They sound like real scum picking on the vulnerable.
I hope you have success with Watchdog, Rogue Traders or whoever you contact.
Scum like these need highlighting and hopefully will save other innocent, genuine people being scammed or ripped off.
Good luck !
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Post by boothenesque on Jun 20, 2018 13:06:19 GMT
I heard that Rocket Ronnie Johnson, in Clayton, was convicted in the past. He doesn't show up as a director now, possibly barred but they still operate from his house in Denbigh Close and he's still the top shit among the other shits.
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Post by elystokie on Jun 20, 2018 13:55:51 GMT
I don't do Facebook or Twitter but I presume you've plastered it all over both?
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Post by boothenesque on Jun 20, 2018 20:59:42 GMT
I don't do Facebook or Twitter but I presume you've plastered it all over both? Yeah me too, so not thought of it. Thanks, worth a shot.
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Post by bigjohnritchie on Jun 20, 2018 21:19:20 GMT
In the main they prey on more vulnerable people, older, disabled, those that would find it hard to fight back, will feel ashamed and humiliated, isolated, intimidated by them and the authorities who put every obstacle in the way of justice. This latest one that contacted me has prompted me to do this because it particularly sickening picking on a terminally ill couple, this being in February after I have sent 100s of emails to the various so-called authorities from December but the authorities chose to do nothing and this couple could have been spared this trauma. Boothen Many people are grateful that you've tried/ are trying to do something about this, thanks for that.
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Post by metalhead on Jun 21, 2018 14:13:40 GMT
There's nothing I enjoy more than bashing the old bill, trust me, I despise them for many reasons..... but I think they struggle with issues like this due to lack of resourcing rather than lack of arsed. Honestly, you grab the random ground floor officers and tell them how these scrotes ripped off a bunch of terminally ill people and I can assure you, they'll be absolutely gutted. What's more, they'll be even more gutted about the fact, they are bound by tonnes of bureaucracy and limited resources.
The middle management and upper management become immune to issues like this. They're paid a lot more than the average person and therefore they don't really give a fuck.
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Post by Northy on Jun 21, 2018 14:20:02 GMT
Kill them, kill them all.....
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Post by boothenesque on Jun 21, 2018 21:02:06 GMT
There's nothing I enjoy more than bashing the old bill, trust me, I despise them for many reasons..... but I think they struggle with issues like this due to lack of resourcing rather than lack of arsed. Honestly, you grab the random ground floor officers and tell them how these scrotes ripped off a bunch of terminally ill people and I can assure you, they'll be absolutely gutted. What's more, they'll be even more gutted about the fact, they are bound by tonnes of bureaucracy and limited resources. The middle management and upper management become immune to issues like this. They're paid a lot more than the average person and therefore they don't really give a fuck. I would like to think your are right, I want to believe you are but the painful experience is they really don't give a shit. I do get that there are other priorities and of course would want them to attend to those first but I've been at them incessantly for 6 months and they really don't have a care. Some of the victims I've found have been hit for 10s of £000s. Ok it's only money and pales into insignificance compared to paedophiles, Hilsborough cover-ups, the recent hospital scandal. I was watching one of the rogue trader programmes the other day and a family had lost about £300k thanks to a builder who went bust started up again, then again and again. If people get away with relatively theft a few times they are more likely to move onto bigger thefts, why let it get to that. About 20 victims having collectively lost maybe £200k or more is significant, not relative to those other scandals but big scandals start off as small scandals. I want to trust the police but you can't and I know they would see it very differently if one of these scum had ripped one of their own off, or someone they consider more important. They arbitrarily decide what is important to them while others are considered not worthy and should be left to the wolves.
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Post by rogerjonesisgod on Jun 21, 2018 21:54:48 GMT
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Post by oggyoggy on Jun 21, 2018 22:02:54 GMT
Hi Tuum, my name is Harry. My nan is looking to move some money out of the country but due to my recent marriage I can't help. We have 30 million USD ready to put into a Kazakhstan or a Thai bank account. Can you help? If so I will share 10 million USD with you. Please PM me, I will give you the banking details so that you can open your account with 10,000 USD. I can then put your millions into your account. Thanks Tuum! I wish it was as obvious as that. There is no doubt that I could have helped myself by being a little more diligent but the fact remains that the people who ripped me off were allowed to do so in full view of the law and are still allowed to do so now. The laws in the UK are pretty weak in my opinion and can be circumvented quite easily by unscrupulous people and their lawyers. One of them was an estate agent who stole 6mths rent and did not protect the tenants deposit. Police were not interested..said he told them it was a short term cash flow problem so it was a civil matter to them. He was jailed 6 months later for 4months (out in two). His crime? An old lady needed to sell her home to go into care. He received an offer of 85,000 for the house but told her it was 75,000. Fully intending to pocket the 10,000 for himself. He got 2 months and I have no doubt that he is out now carrying on as before. Don't get me started on the saga that came out of failing to protect the deposit. The general incompetence and unfairness was a great lesson to me. I am still dealing with the fallout from this today. It's a real pain in the arse. You should contact the property ombudsman about the estate agent. Also if a landlord fails to protect a tenant's deposit within te time period (30days I think) bring a claim because the court MUST award the tenant the deposit monies plus up to 3 times the deposit to the tenant. The landlord cannot get out of it. Enforcement can be an issue though if they already have loads of creditors. If the agent made the mistake, you sue the actual landlord and the landlord would have to recover their loss from the agent, but that is not your problem.
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Post by tuum on Jun 22, 2018 3:18:43 GMT
I wish it was as obvious as that. There is no doubt that I could have helped myself by being a little more diligent but the fact remains that the people who ripped me off were allowed to do so in full view of the law and are still allowed to do so now. The laws in the UK are pretty weak in my opinion and can be circumvented quite easily by unscrupulous people and their lawyers. One of them was an estate agent who stole 6mths rent and did not protect the tenants deposit. Police were not interested..said he told them it was a short term cash flow problem so it was a civil matter to them. He was jailed 6 months later for 4months (out in two). His crime? An old lady needed to sell her home to go into care. He received an offer of 85,000 for the house but told her it was 75,000. Fully intending to pocket the 10,000 for himself. He got 2 months and I have no doubt that he is out now carrying on as before. Don't get me started on the saga that came out of failing to protect the deposit. The general incompetence and unfairness was a great lesson to me. I am still dealing with the fallout from this today. It's a real pain in the arse. You should contact the property ombudsman about the estate agent. Also if a landlord fails to protect a tenant's deposit within te time period (30days I think) bring a claim because the court MUST award the tenant the deposit monies plus up to 3 times the deposit to the tenant. The landlord cannot get out of it. Enforcement can be an issue though if they already have loads of creditors. If the agent made the mistake, you sue the actual landlord and the landlord would have to recover their loss from the agent, but that is not your problem. I am an expat so it is difficult to pursue these things when I am not in the UK. I have tried it a couple of times. The only one I was successful in was in the Czech Republic. My experiences in the UK were less than satisfactory. I accept that as a Landlord I have strict liability. Having lived overseas for 20yrs+ I did not know this and I relied on the estate agent to deal with it. I got rid of the dodgy agent and employed a property manager who sourced another agent. The 2nd agent knew the deposit had not been protected but did not tell me and took no action to sort it out. They then advised me, wrongly, to serve notice. The tenants were alcoholics and a nuisance to everyone. They went straight to the CAB and got themselves a lawyer who probed every nook and cranny to find a reason to throw out the notice. I have no problem with the CAB lawyer doing this. He is only looking after his clients interests. However, it took up a lot of my time responding to wrongful claims because 3rd party agencies did not keep adequate records. These 3rd party agencies are councils and govt agencies set up to help landlords and tenants. My lawyer then advised to settle with the tenants and start the process again. I paid a sum of 1200 quid to the tenants in damages. What pissed me off was the deposit was paid by the local council but I had to pay the tenants the 1200 quid. I would have preferred to pay it to the council. Giving the tenants the cash in these circumstances seems unjust to me and just encourages them to keep misbehaving and trying it on whenever they can with other landlords. I discussed suing the 2nd agent for negligent advice but they had a valid argument that I was already in default when they took it over and my 1200 loss would have been the same anyway. I could have claimed my lawyer fees and other odds and sods but my previous experiences with the UK civil courts just put me off. This is only one example. I consider myself to be a decent and very fair landlord but I have stopped buying property in the UK. It is too much hassle. My Middlesbro friend helpfully suggested he contact some of his "friends" back home to pay the alcoholic tenants a visit. I politely declined but I can see why people choose to take the law into their own hands.
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Post by boothenesque on Jun 23, 2018 23:04:04 GMT
They legged it from Ironmarket about 8 or 9 months ago but one of the companies still uses it as its registered address. Notified Companies House but they're not bothered. They have been given a free run and if anything supported and assisted by the so-called authorities. Maybe it's corruption, maybe it's complacency. One thing is for sure, some special people are protected by the law and the rest of us are considered not worthy although still considered worthy enough to pay our taxes.
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Post by tuum on Jun 24, 2018 4:20:18 GMT
There's nothing I enjoy more than bashing the old bill, trust me, I despise them for many reasons..... but I think they struggle with issues like this due to lack of resourcing rather than lack of arsed. Honestly, you grab the random ground floor officers and tell them how these scrotes ripped off a bunch of terminally ill people and I can assure you, they'll be absolutely gutted. What's more, they'll be even more gutted about the fact, they are bound by tonnes of bureaucracy and limited resources. The middle management and upper management become immune to issues like this. They're paid a lot more than the average person and therefore they don't really give a fuck. I agree with this. My experiences suggest this to be the case. They know who the offending parties are but do not have the resources to investigate. The hand of May is everywhere when it comes to social policy in the UK. I don't know the exact numbers but I recall figures of 20% cuts in resources across all services (judiciary,police,education,coastguard,probation etc) over the last 6-7 years. You may argue that public services can be leaner but 20% is still a lot. No one should expect the same level of service under those conditions....but, that is for another thread.
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Post by boothenesque on Jun 24, 2018 12:15:35 GMT
There's nothing I enjoy more than bashing the old bill, trust me, I despise them for many reasons..... but I think they struggle with issues like this due to lack of resourcing rather than lack of arsed. Honestly, you grab the random ground floor officers and tell them how these scrotes ripped off a bunch of terminally ill people and I can assure you, they'll be absolutely gutted. What's more, they'll be even more gutted about the fact, they are bound by tonnes of bureaucracy and limited resources. The middle management and upper management become immune to issues like this. They're paid a lot more than the average person and therefore they don't really give a fuck. I agree with this. My experiences suggest this to be the case. They know who the offending parties are but do not have the resources to investigate. The hand of May is everywhere when it comes to social policy in the UK. I don't know the exact numbers but I recall figures of 20% cuts in resources across all services (judiciary,police,education,coastguard,probation etc) over the last 6-7 years. You may argue that public services can be leaner but 20% is still a lot. No one should expect the same level of service under those conditions....but, that is for another thread. Sorry but they do have the resources. These rogues have been known to the police for years. Had they been scamming rich people they would have been dragged in. Had they made inflammatory words on social media they would have been dragged in. Had they committed any offence against the establishment they would have been held to account, no expense spared no resource issues. They hardly need any resources to prosecute, these are very simple cases. They have plenty of time to chase me for taking paperwork from an abandoned office, that turned out to be victims and they took time to tell me and all those victims not to communicate with each other. They had time to insist I completed a form for them to describe my religions, sexual orientation and ethnicity, they had time to get me in for harassment of the crooks they protect, they had time to go thorough a complaints procedure in which they arbitrate about themselves and after they investigated themselves fully they found they had no case to answer and likewise with the appeal of that. They have loads of time. That's not to say I agree with the cuts, I don't. However they do have time, what they don't have is the will or the care, unless it's someone they feel is important to them, otherwise you can go a rot, but after you have paid your taxes. There are good police for sure, brilliant, diligent, brave, tenacious, with a burning desire for justice, protecting the vulnerable and catching bad guys. But equally there are a lot of them that simply don't give a shit and are not very nice. I had been banging on about these crooks to the police for 2 months and they chose to do nothing before a couple were robbed of £13k at a time when they really really need that money. The police could have prevented their suffering but they chose to protect the police instead. That is not an issue of resources, that is an issue of morality and many police, like the crooks don't have it. Morality and the pursuit of justice not an issue of resources and cut backs.
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