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Post by boskampsflaps on May 1, 2018 16:56:46 GMT
bit like Villa this season who are doing well If there is one set of fans who should be at the very least open minded about players returning,& older players at that, it's ours. Exactly, the people who slag them off and say they are too old have their head in the clouds thinking well be spending 100m on 5 or 6 players at 15m a pop. far more likely we will be sniffing around Ben Marshall and hoolihan Not one person has slagged him off.
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Post by supersimonstainrod on May 1, 2018 17:00:00 GMT
Think the Championship will be a reality check for some of these people looking down their nose at signing Huth. Just look at 37yr old John Terry, had a great season with Villa. And Huth is only 34, great partnership with Ryan and a fan favourite (or so I thought) and we know he has a solid character. A deal makes absolute sense. From what I've seen of the Championship Huth would still be a good signing: lots of percentage balls slung high/chipped into the box that need heading away,srummages at set-pieces at both ends to attack/defend etc...pace tends to be used chasing punts into the channels so we need pace at LB/RB definitely. Granted the best teams have one or two tricksy,quick players but they'll most likely trouble any CB'S in that league.
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Post by stokeramblers on May 1, 2018 17:33:52 GMT
Think the Championship will be a reality check for some of these people looking down their nose at signing Huth. Just look at 37yr old John Terry, had a great season with Villa. And Huth is only 34, great partnership with Ryan and a fan favourite (or so I thought) and we know he has a solid character. A deal makes absolute sense. 'Is only 34' Ahah In comparison to the 37yr old Terry.. I realise he’s not young... You know Shawcross is 31 next season.
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Post by Pugsley on May 1, 2018 17:38:49 GMT
Think the Championship will be a reality check for some of these people looking down their nose at signing Huth. Just look at 37yr old John Terry, had a great season with Villa. And Huth is only 34, great partnership with Ryan and a fan favourite (or so I thought) and we know he has a solid character. A deal makes absolute sense. As he had a great season?
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Post by ursemboys on May 1, 2018 17:39:10 GMT
In comparison to the 37yr old Terry.. I realise he’s not young... You know Shawcross is 31 next season. the main issue with Huth is he has been out injured all season ,John Terry was not out on a long term injury when villa bought him in, we need move on there are more huts out there we just need find them ,we found them in the past and will find them again
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Post by bhp on May 1, 2018 17:51:07 GMT
In comparison to the 37yr old Terry.. I realise he’s not young... You know Shawcross is 31 next season. Terry was miles better than Huth ever was. Yes? He's 31 in October. Your point being?
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Post by professorplump on May 1, 2018 18:01:32 GMT
Huth was a great player for us but to sign a 34yr old who hasn't played for over a year would be a huge gamble. I wouldn't want him to be next years Charlie Adam. I would rather see us try to develop Souttar.
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Post by iglugluk on May 1, 2018 18:08:27 GMT
Huth was a great player for us but to sign a 34yr old who hasn't played for over a year would be a huge gamble. I wouldn't want him to be next years Charlie Adam. I would rather see us try to develop Souttar. Darren Fletcher comes to mind
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Post by CBUFAWKIPWH on May 1, 2018 18:11:52 GMT
Bauer - Quick Pieters - Fine Shawcross - Slow but smart Huth - Snail Whelan - Snail Ndiaye - Fine Adam - Can't move Diouf - Fine but can't kick a football Crouch - Can't move Walters - Snail The Championship is about pace. there's no pace in that team besides 4 players, the one of whom that is attacking can't kick a football. No pace and no quality. Relegation fodder. championship is not about pace. that is bull @@@@ It is full of failed old prem players, cheap foreign players and loans You are massively underestimating the quality of the Championship. If the club do what you are suggesting we will be relegation fodder. It's 10 years since we were down there - and the team that got us promoted would not get us promoted in the Championship as it now stands - even in its hey day it would not have been good enough with the quality of opposition as it now stands. There are many more ex-Premiership clubs down there with their massively inflated parachute payments and other clubs who have received heavy investment from mainly foreign owners. It is no coincidence that all the teams that went up last season may well be there next year - the gap isn't as big and there are plenty of teams in the Championship who aren't far off being a bottom half Premiesrhip quality. We need a blend of youth, early/mid career and a bit of experience - not a team of old farts. We need a massive overhaul and a sound strategy - not a call out for 10 year reunion party.
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Post by thevoid on May 1, 2018 18:16:40 GMT
Vince Overson's back in the gym. Go get him Paul.
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Post by gingerninja on May 1, 2018 18:20:25 GMT
I think we will make one 'big' signing, my money would be on Benteke and then look to build a solid side around him..I hope we don't turn to Dad's Army again but find the right blend of experience & youth.
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Post by thevoid on May 1, 2018 18:22:26 GMT
That would surely be the slowest team ever fielded in the EFL. Absolute madness. bit like Villa this season who are doing well If there is one set of fans who should be at the very least open minded about players returning,& older players at that, it's ours. Why? Look forward not back. Or perhaps pubs should get rid of Blue Moon and bring Double Diamond back?
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Post by WorkingclassHero on May 1, 2018 18:28:14 GMT
championship is not about pace. that is bull @@@@ It is full of failed old prem players, cheap foreign players and loans You are massively underestimating the quality of the Championship. If the club do what you are suggesting we will be relegation fodder. It's 10 years since we were down there - and the team that got us promoted would not get us promoted in the Championship as it now stands - even in its hey day it would not have been good enough with the quality of opposition as it now stands. There are many more ex-Premiership clubs down there with their massively inflated parachute payments and other clubs who have received heavy investment from mainly foreign owners. It is no coincidence that all the teams that went up last season may well be there next year - the gap isn't as big and there are plenty of teams in the Championship who aren't far off being a bottom half Premiesrhip quality. We need a blend of youth, early/mid career and a bit of experience - not a team of old farts. We need a massive overhaul and a sound strategy - not a call out for 10 year reunion party. I'm sorry but you are massively overestimating the quality down there. look at the teams that cane up Huddersfield shite Brighton shite Newcastle shite. an organised experienced team with a decent striker and a playmaker will rip up that league. even crap players like Jerome and traore look good in that league. Make no mistake the champ is shite, it will be a challenge because we ourselves are so bad right now, get the old guard back and we will be laughing next year beasting the likes of Brentford
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Post by thevoid on May 1, 2018 18:33:26 GMT
You are massively underestimating the quality of the Championship. If the club do what you are suggesting we will be relegation fodder. It's 10 years since we were down there - and the team that got us promoted would not get us promoted in the Championship as it now stands - even in its hey day it would not have been good enough with the quality of opposition as it now stands. There are many more ex-Premiership clubs down there with their massively inflated parachute payments and other clubs who have received heavy investment from mainly foreign owners. It is no coincidence that all the teams that went up last season may well be there next year - the gap isn't as big and there are plenty of teams in the Championship who aren't far off being a bottom half Premiesrhip quality. We need a blend of youth, early/mid career and a bit of experience - not a team of old farts. We need a massive overhaul and a sound strategy - not a call out for 10 year reunion party. I'm sorry but you are massively overestimating the quality down there. look at the teams that cane up Huddersfield shite Brighton shite Newcastle shite. an organised experienced team with a decent striker and a playmaker will rip up that league. even crap players like Jerome and traore look good in that league. Make no mistake the champ is shite, it will be a challenge because we ourselves are so bad right now, get the old guard back and we will be laughing next year beasting the likes of Brentford Brentford would run rings around a team full of oldies. If I want to watch Dad's Army I'll watch GOLD.
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Post by boskampsflaps on May 1, 2018 18:37:02 GMT
I think we will make one 'big' signing, my money would be on Benteke and then look to build a solid side around him..I hope we don't turn to Dad's Army again but find the right blend of experience & youth. I'd seriously suggest you don't make that bet
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Post by stantheman on May 1, 2018 18:43:53 GMT
On a free I am told. Would be a good signing if we are down or not. Get Walters back as well, let’s get the band back together. Give it a real go to come back up. Fuck it - I bet Whelan has got another season in him too. What's Whitehead doing these days? I'd be well pleased with that lot. DNA overload. Bring it on!
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Post by samba :) on May 1, 2018 18:48:15 GMT
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Post by Deleted on May 1, 2018 18:59:51 GMT
I think we will make one 'big' signing, my money would be on Benteke and then look to build a solid side around him..I hope we don't turn to Dad's Army again but find the right blend of experience & youth. Benteke? Why the hell would he choose us in the Championship? Do you think we'll be spending 'Benteke money' on any single player? FFS, next season will be a season to behold on here. There will be pissy knickers all over the shop, I can picture it now!!
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Post by bayernoatcake on May 1, 2018 19:01:48 GMT
I think we will make one 'big' signing, my money would be on Benteke and then look to build a solid side around him..I hope we don't turn to Dad's Army again but find the right blend of experience & youth. Benteke? Why the hell would he choose us in the Championship? Do you think we'll be spending 'Benteke money' on any single player? FFS, next season will be a season to behold on here. There will be pissy knickers all over the shop, I can picture it now!! But we were forever spending 35m on a single striker with our Premier League riches, why wouldn't we do it in the Championship?
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Post by Deleted on May 1, 2018 19:02:58 GMT
Benteke? Why the hell would he choose us in the Championship? Do you think we'll be spending 'Benteke money' on any single player? FFS, next season will be a season to behold on here. There will be pissy knickers all over the shop, I can picture it now!! But we were forever spending 35m on a single striker with our Premier League riches, why wouldn't we do it in the Championship? Welcome to cloud cuckoo-land.
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Post by lordb on May 1, 2018 19:06:03 GMT
Assuming Lambert is the manager and assuming he doesn't play wing backs we will have minimum 48 games next season,we will need at least five centre backs. Ideally Bruno and Ryan (if either or both are sold we will need to replace with first choice players),Huth as first choice back up with Sweeny & Souttar. There's always Cameron but it looks like he's off?
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Post by lordb on May 1, 2018 19:06:23 GMT
But we were forever spending 35m on a single striker with our Premier League riches, why wouldn't we do it in the Championship? Welcome to cloud cuckoo-land. Whooosh.
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Post by Deleted on May 1, 2018 19:07:30 GMT
You are massively underestimating the quality of the Championship. If the club do what you are suggesting we will be relegation fodder. It's 10 years since we were down there - and the team that got us promoted would not get us promoted in the Championship as it now stands - even in its hey day it would not have been good enough with the quality of opposition as it now stands. There are many more ex-Premiership clubs down there with their massively inflated parachute payments and other clubs who have received heavy investment from mainly foreign owners. It is no coincidence that all the teams that went up last season may well be there next year - the gap isn't as big and there are plenty of teams in the Championship who aren't far off being a bottom half Premiesrhip quality. We need a blend of youth, early/mid career and a bit of experience - not a team of old farts. We need a massive overhaul and a sound strategy - not a call out for 10 year reunion party. I'm sorry but you are massively overestimating the quality down there. look at the teams that cane up Huddersfield shite Brighton shite Newcastle shite. an organised experienced team with a decent striker and a playmaker will rip up that league. even crap players like Jerome and traore look good in that league. Make no mistake the champ is shite, it will be a challenge because we ourselves are so bad right now, get the old guard back and we will be laughing next year beasting the likes of Brentford Those players (and teams) have pace. Brighton especially.
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Post by Deleted on May 1, 2018 19:09:46 GMT
Welcome to cloud cuckoo-land. Whooosh. I was agreeing with him.
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Post by lordb on May 1, 2018 19:09:53 GMT
I'm sorry but you are massively overestimating the quality down there. look at the teams that cane up Huddersfield shite Brighton shite Newcastle shite. an organised experienced team with a decent striker and a playmaker will rip up that league. even crap players like Jerome and traore look good in that league. Make no mistake the champ is shite, it will be a challenge because we ourselves are so bad right now, get the old guard back and we will be laughing next year beasting the likes of Brentford Those players (and teams) have pace. Brighton especially. Not at the back.
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Post by Deleted on May 1, 2018 19:11:43 GMT
Those players (and teams) have pace. Brighton especially. Not at the back. Quicker than Huth. Better than Huth too tbh, certainly now.
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Post by lordb on May 1, 2018 19:18:44 GMT
Quicker than Huth. Better than Huth too tbh, certainly now. Who have Brighton, Newcastle and Huddersfield got at the back who are quick? Huth wouldn't be first choice remember. Bruno is quick. Really don't see any issue with Huth playing in the Championship. Bauer is quick too Pace at the other end mind,yeah we could do with some although not pace for paces sake otherwise you end up with Goodfellow,Carrutgers,Dave Regis,Tony TK Kelly. No ta.
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Post by alster on May 1, 2018 19:22:20 GMT
Hansen was always right, you don't win anything with kids. Well said about Waddo. It's worked for Juventus for a long time too. What we need is a blend of players, new and old, if we are doing the 'let's get promotion asap' thing. We don't need to look around for ideas from elsewhere for promotion, we have our own blueprint and it works. The same way that we got promoted will still work and for that, Huth & Walters would fit in very nicely indeed. This is all spoken from a relegation point of view. We were promoted to the Premier League with the joint record lowest points for automatic promotion to that league and you think we have a blueprint for promotion?
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Post by Deleted on May 1, 2018 19:33:19 GMT
Quicker than Huth. Better than Huth too tbh, certainly now. Who have Brighton, Newcastle and Huddersfield got at the back who are quick? Huth wouldn't be first choice remember. Bruno is quick. Really don't see any issue with Huth playing in the Championship. Bauer is quick too Pace at the other end mind,yeah we could do with some although not pace for paces sake otherwise you end up with Goodfellow,Carrutgers,Dave Regis,Tony TK Kelly. No ta. I don't think he's smart enough to play in a team that doesn't park itself on the edge of their own 18 yard box. Especially not a team that tries to pass. I suppose as a bench player but id rather a youngster than waste money on a player who's past it.
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Post by WorkingclassHero on May 1, 2018 19:34:55 GMT
Who have Brighton, Newcastle and Huddersfield got at the back who are quick? Huth wouldn't be first choice remember. Bruno is quick. Really don't see any issue with Huth playing in the Championship. Bauer is quick too Pace at the other end mind,yeah we could do with some although not pace for paces sake otherwise you end up with Goodfellow,Carrutgers,Dave Regis,Tony TK Kelly. No ta. I don't think he's smart enough to play in a team that doesn't park itself on the edge of their own 18 yard box. Especially not a team that tries to pass. I suppose as a bench player but id rather a youngster than waste money on a player who's past it. Huth and Shawcross would boss that league.
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