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Post by cousindupree on Apr 26, 2018 14:50:39 GMT
If we lose Ryan or Indi then it's not the daftest of shouts. People on here were saying he was finished when we sold him to Leicester, I wonder what happened to him there?
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Post by Claus_SCFC on Apr 26, 2018 14:51:31 GMT
Would sort out the dressing room in a second
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Post by Staffsoatcake on Apr 26, 2018 14:51:50 GMT
Fuckwits No.2. Maybe.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 26, 2018 14:53:01 GMT
Well yeah we didn't replace him well enough. Doesn't mean Huth shouldn't have been sold. Had we signed Indi a year earlier, we'd have been absolutely fine. I think the general idea is to sell players and replace them with better players not fucking worse players. Wollscheid did well for a bit. He started to turn to shit after the Saints game in 2015. But tbh he had some good games at the start of 15/16 too. He certainly didn't seem worse straight away, not all signings work out and that one didn't, so we got Indi who did. Again, selling Huth was the right decision.
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Post by Veritas on Apr 26, 2018 14:58:25 GMT
I think the general idea is to sell players and replace them with better players not fucking worse players. Wollscheid did well for a bit. He started to turn to shit after the Saints game in 2015. But tbh he had some good games at the start of 15/16 too. He certainly didn't seem worse straight away, not all signings work out and that one didn't, so we got Indi who did. Again, selling Huth was the right decision. Qquite right selling Huth was not a dreadful mistake and has very little to do with our subsequent demise.
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Post by ColonelMustard on Apr 26, 2018 15:01:54 GMT
We dont need to prioritise a full back.
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Apr 26, 2018 15:08:15 GMT
Would sort out the dressing room in a second He certainly wouldn't struggle to play Cock or No Cock in there. Although slightly tougher now Jese's gone admittedly.
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Post by Davef on Apr 26, 2018 15:12:04 GMT
Would sort out the dressing room in a second He certainly wouldn't struggle to play Cock or No Cock in there. Although slightly tougher now Jese's gone admittedly. That's such an obvious joke isn't it...? Can't believe we haven't stuck it in the magazine! Oh well, Adios Knobhead was a good one.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 26, 2018 15:13:04 GMT
If we lose Ryan or Indi then it's not the daftest of shouts. People on here were saying he was finished when we sold him to Leicester, I wonder what happened to him there? Kante won them the league... Like i said, he can't play in an expansive team. When there's 8 men behind the ball, and a player like Kante ahead of him, so he only has to defend the 6 yard box, fine.
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Post by harryburrows on Apr 26, 2018 15:15:05 GMT
Time to try and blood Souter , can't turn back time
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Post by Pugsley on Apr 26, 2018 15:40:24 GMT
Would sort out the dressing room in a second Is that right. Huth wasn't sold for football reasons.
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Apr 26, 2018 15:44:09 GMT
Would sort out the dressing room in a second Is that right. Huth wasn't sold for football reasons. Your recent posts give the impression you’re all of a sudden the new davesviews😄
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Post by Deleted on Apr 26, 2018 16:06:13 GMT
Even with my user name it’s a ridiculous idea.
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Post by Pugsley on Apr 26, 2018 17:04:16 GMT
Is that right. Huth wasn't sold for football reasons. Your recent posts give the impression you’re all of a sudden the new davesviews😄 Yeah, just like that tool I make shit up.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 26, 2018 17:07:08 GMT
It amazes me how many Stoke fans want to sign old past their best players, especially ex players.
That thinking has whats generally sent us down, well as good as down. Yet people want more of it.
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Post by nigerianstokie on Apr 26, 2018 17:16:01 GMT
If we lose Ryan or Indi then it's not the daftest of shouts. People on here were saying he was finished when we sold him to Leicester, I wonder what happened to him there? He played behind one of the best defensive midfielders in the world. Kante leaving made Huth and Morgan look like Huth and Morgan.
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Post by crapslinger on Apr 26, 2018 17:25:02 GMT
I think the general idea is to sell players and replace them with better players not fucking worse players. Wollscheid did well for a bit. He started to turn to shit after the Saints game in 2015. But tbh he had some good games at the start of 15/16 too. He certainly didn't seem worse straight away, not all signings work out and that one didn't, so we got Indi who did. Again, selling Huth was the right decision. The majority of Hughes signings have not worked out not a few.
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Post by boskampsflaps on Apr 26, 2018 17:25:57 GMT
So people want to get rid of our old crocks and sign another one to replace them, great plan
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Post by bayernoatcake on Apr 26, 2018 17:44:10 GMT
If we lose Ryan or Indi then it's not the daftest of shouts. People on here were saying he was finished when we sold him to Leicester, I wonder what happened to him there? Kante won them the league... Like i said, he can't play in an expansive team. When there's 8 men behind the ball, and a player like Kante ahead of him, so he only has to defend the 6 yard box, fine. It was still a daft decision.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 26, 2018 17:47:14 GMT
Wollscheid did well for a bit. He started to turn to shit after the Saints game in 2015. But tbh he had some good games at the start of 15/16 too. He certainly didn't seem worse straight away, not all signings work out and that one didn't, so we got Indi who did. Again, selling Huth was the right decision. The majority of Hughes signings have not worked out not a few. Allen (despite balance issues in the squad) Shaq Zouma Arnie Bojan Indi Odemwingie (until injury) Diouf Grant Johnson (until injury) Moses Bardsley All succeeded over some period of time. The players who 'failed' would be: Saido Imbula (still had talent) Given Guidetti Sidwell Fletcher Jose Haugaard V. Ginkel Bony The rest have been alright. I make that 12 good signings to 10 poor ones. Including the 'alright ones' like Ramadan etc. it's not even close. There are more good signings than bad. Recently not so, but over his whole tenure definitely. He has no worse a record here than any other manager on Earth has.
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Post by Pugsley on Apr 26, 2018 17:48:32 GMT
Kante won them the league... Like i said, he can't play in an expansive team. When there's 8 men behind the ball, and a player like Kante ahead of him, so he only has to defend the 6 yard box, fine. It was still a daft decision. If it was based on footballing reasons....
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Post by bayernoatcake on Apr 26, 2018 17:50:37 GMT
The majority of Hughes signings have not worked out not a few. Allen (despite balance issues in the squad) Shaq Zouma Arnie Bojan Indi Odemwingie (until injury) Diouf Grant Johnson (until injury) Moses Bardsley All succeeded over some period of time. The players who 'failed' would be: Saido Imbula (still had talent) Given Guidetti Sidwell Fletcher Jose Haugaard V. Ginkel Bony The rest have been alright. I make that 12 good signings to 10 poor ones. Including the 'alright ones' like Ramadan etc. it's not even close. There are more good signings than bad. Recently not so, but over his whole tenure definitely. He has no worse a record here than any other manager on Earth has. Zouma has failed. Johnson has failed. Wolly failed. Muni failed. Bojan is close to it. Afellay failed. I still don't think Allen has been anything but a failure.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 26, 2018 17:59:19 GMT
Allen (despite balance issues in the squad) Shaq Zouma Arnie Bojan Indi Odemwingie (until injury) Diouf Grant Johnson (until injury) Moses Bardsley All succeeded over some period of time. The players who 'failed' would be: Saido Imbula (still had talent) Given Guidetti Sidwell Fletcher Jose Haugaard V. Ginkel Bony The rest have been alright. I make that 12 good signings to 10 poor ones. Including the 'alright ones' like Ramadan etc. it's not even close. There are more good signings than bad. Recently not so, but over his whole tenure definitely. He has no worse a record here than any other manager on Earth has. Zouma has failed. Johnson has failed. Wolly failed. Muni failed. Bojan is close to it. Afellay failed. I still don't think Allen has been anything but a failure. Disagree with all of those bar possibly Wolly
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Post by bayernoatcake on Apr 26, 2018 18:04:37 GMT
Zouma has failed. Johnson has failed. Wolly failed. Muni failed. Bojan is close to it. Afellay failed. I still don't think Allen has been anything but a failure. Disagree with all of those bar possibly Wolly What has Zouma actually done? He's been pretty crap in a good half of his games, average in most of the rest and had a few good ones and will have a relegation on his CV because of it. Johnson was good for 3 months in his first season. Wolly was just wank. Muni hardly played and when he wasn't on the bench, he was injured. Bojan is contentious I get that but his Stoke career is split into 3, excellent, injured, mardarsing on loan. Afellay has been awful, the epitome of why Hughes' football became crap. It look pretty with no effect. And we've been awful since Allen signed and haven't had a midfield in that time. He's a big part of that.
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Post by numpty40 on Apr 26, 2018 18:08:08 GMT
The majority of Hughes signings have not worked out not a few. Allen (despite balance issues in the squad) Shaq Zouma Arnie Bojan Indi Odemwingie (until injury) Diouf Grant Johnson (until injury) Moses Bardsley All succeeded over some period of time. The players who 'failed' would be: Saido Imbula (still had talent) Given Guidetti Sidwell Fletcher Jose Haugaard V. Ginkel Bony The rest have been alright. I make that 12 good signings to 10 poor ones. Including the 'alright ones' like Ramadan etc. it's not even close. There are more good signings than bad. Recently not so, but over his whole tenure definitely. He has no worse a record here than any other manager on Earth has. Ahem....Wimmer
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Post by TrentValePotter96 on Apr 26, 2018 18:22:28 GMT
Huth is 33 (34 in August) and has not played for Leicester this season.
And lack of pace would matter in the championship.
If this was a centre back who had never played for us people would go nowhere near him.
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Post by TrentValePotter96 on Apr 26, 2018 18:26:55 GMT
If we lose Ryan or Indi then it's not the daftest of shouts. People on here were saying he was finished when we sold him to Leicester, I wonder what happened to him there? That was a few years ago and he's older now
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Post by Deleted on Apr 26, 2018 18:29:01 GMT
Allen (despite balance issues in the squad) Shaq Zouma Arnie Bojan Indi Odemwingie (until injury) Diouf Grant Johnson (until injury) Moses Bardsley All succeeded over some period of time. The players who 'failed' would be: Saido Imbula (still had talent) Given Guidetti Sidwell Fletcher Jose Haugaard V. Ginkel Bony The rest have been alright. I make that 12 good signings to 10 poor ones. Including the 'alright ones' like Ramadan etc. it's not even close. There are more good signings than bad. Recently not so, but over his whole tenure definitely. He has no worse a record here than any other manager on Earth has. Ahem....Wimmer Apologies, add Wimmer.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 26, 2018 18:34:47 GMT
Disagree with all of those bar possibly Wolly What has Zouma actually done? He's been pretty crap in a good half of his games, average in most of the rest and had a few good ones and will have a relegation on his CV because of it. Johnson was good for 3 months in his first season. Wolly was just wank. Muni hardly played and when he wasn't on the bench, he was injured. Bojan is contentious I get that but his Stoke career is split into 3, excellent, injured, mardarsing on loan. Afellay has been awful, the epitome of why Hughes' football became crap. It look pretty with no effect. And we've been awful since Allen signed and haven't had a midfield in that time. He's a big part of that. I think he's been good for the most part. Couple of big mistakes but certainly not been bad. Johnson was good until the Bournemouth game when he got injured, can't remember when that was. Wollscheid was decent until he started getting cocky in 15/16. Muni was good when he did play, which tbf was over 50 games for us, albeit over a fair few seasons. Bojan was excellent, no idea why we loaned him out at all. Afellay was an excellent player for a bit, he did a lot in the midfield with keeping the ball. Lost the need for that when Hughes fucked off playing football though and his injuries got to him. Allen himself has been excellent. Had we signed a proper defensive midfielder or just played him next to Cameron rather than pretending he's a number 10 we'd have been far better off.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Apr 26, 2018 18:42:15 GMT
What has Zouma actually done? He's been pretty crap in a good half of his games, average in most of the rest and had a few good ones and will have a relegation on his CV because of it. Johnson was good for 3 months in his first season. Wolly was just wank. Muni hardly played and when he wasn't on the bench, he was injured. Bojan is contentious I get that but his Stoke career is split into 3, excellent, injured, mardarsing on loan. Afellay has been awful, the epitome of why Hughes' football became crap. It look pretty with no effect. And we've been awful since Allen signed and haven't had a midfield in that time. He's a big part of that. I think he's been good for the most part. Couple of big mistakes but certainly not been bad. Johnson was good until the Bournemouth game when he got injured, can't remember when that was. Wollscheid was decent until he started getting cocky in 15/16. Muni was good when he did play, which tbf was over 50 games for us, albeit over a fair few seasons. Bojan was excellent, no idea why we loaned him out at all. Afellay was an excellent player for a bit, he did a lot in the midfield with keeping the ball. Lost the need for that when Hughes fucked off playing football though and his injuries got to him. Allen himself has been excellent. Had we signed a proper defensive midfielder or just played him next to Cameron rather than pretending he's a number 10 we'd have been far better off. Zouma and Afellay- massively overrated by way too many. Wolly was just toss. I love Muni but overall his signing was a poor one. He was barely used and often injured. A shame. Bojan was loaned because he didn't want to stay and fight. Allen was never needed, it was a waste of money, it remains so now we have Badou.
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