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Post by GoBoks on May 26, 2018 14:37:17 GMT
So having just said he’s not worth 10 Million, you still think we should have a record signing player moping around the dressing room earning a massive wage but unable to displace someone worth a third of the money? What does that do to morale of everyone concerned? Who's to say any of that will happen? He might get fit and be the best CB in the Championship for all we know. If you believe that, I have a bridge to sell you. Out of all our "misfits", this is the second least likely to achieve a turnaround.
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Post by professorplump on May 26, 2018 14:55:37 GMT
I know I'm in a small minority here but I don't think Wimmer is as bad a player as most on here like to think. Tottenham saw something in him to sign him in the first place. Pulis wanted to sign him and he is normally a good judge of a defender. Austria think he's good enough for their national team. Fitness is his major issue and if he could resolve that then I believe that he could still be a decent player. Never worth 18M though.
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Post by bayernoatcake on May 26, 2018 14:58:09 GMT
Who's to say any of that will happen? He might get fit and be the best CB in the Championship for all we know. If you believe that, I have a bridge to sell you. Out of all our "misfits", this is the second least likely to achieve a turnaround. I don't think he is a misfit. He was overweight but that's easily overcome. He doesn't seem like trouble. That's just a line made up to make Lambert look better.
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Post by Deleted on May 26, 2018 15:07:55 GMT
One of a truly disasterous trio of signings Mark Hughes should be damnned for all eternity for. Cost us our premier league status.
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Post by GoBoks on May 26, 2018 15:16:55 GMT
If you believe that, I have a bridge to sell you. Out of all our "misfits", this is the second least likely to achieve a turnaround. I don't think he is a misfit. He was overweight but that's easily overcome. He doesn't seem like trouble. That's just a line made up to make Lambert look better. A misfit in my book is anyone who does not add to the team, not a troublemaker. Wimmer added nothing last year = misfit. And in my opinion a hopeless case. Good riddance.
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Post by homer32 on May 26, 2018 16:05:14 GMT
I know I'm in a small minority here but I don't think Wimmer is as bad a player as most on here like to think. Tottenham saw something in him to sign him in the first place. Pulis wanted to sign him and he is normally a good judge of a defender. Austria think he's good enough for their national team. Fitness is his major issue and if he could resolve that then I believe that he could still be a decent player. Never worth 18M though. Totally agree with you on this.I assume Rowett was consulted first on this before the deal was done.The opinion of the club must be that he could not be considered good enough to hold down a place in a Championship team as his fitness levels could be sorted.I find this very strange as we are not actually well off for central defenders going into next season.
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Post by sheikhmomo on May 26, 2018 17:09:48 GMT
€12m fair play to Scholes on this one, I thought we'd be lucky to get half of that! Hahaha the worst deal in 155 years of Stoke City football club, a deal that Scholes was complicit in and still folk want to give him credit. Fuck me! Stoke fans eh?! Jesus wept.
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Post by boskampsflaps on May 26, 2018 17:21:09 GMT
€12m fair play to Scholes on this one, I thought we'd be lucky to get half of that! Hahaha the worst deal in 155 years of Stoke City football club, a deal that Scholes was complicit in and still folk want to give him credit. Fuck me! Stoke fans eh?! Jesus wept. Scholes is told what to do, he doesn't chose the players or have a say so why is he worthy of criticism?
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Post by sheikhmomo on May 26, 2018 17:29:51 GMT
Hahaha the worst deal in 155 years of Stoke City football club, a deal that Scholes was complicit in and still folk want to give him credit. Fuck me! Stoke fans eh?! Jesus wept. Scholes is told what to do, he doesn't chose the players or have a say so why is he worthy of criticism? He has nothing to do with price paid or contract size and length?!?! Fuck me. What does he do for a million bastard quid a year then
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Post by Deleted on May 26, 2018 17:34:01 GMT
Scholes is told what to do, he doesn't chose the players or have a say so why is he worthy of criticism? He has nothing to do with price paid or contract size and length?!?! Fuck me. What does he do for a million bastard quid a year then Expect an article. Hell hath no fury like a journo scorned.
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on May 26, 2018 17:34:57 GMT
€12m fair play to Scholes on this one, I thought we'd be lucky to get half of that! Hahaha the worst deal in 155 years of Stoke City football club, a deal that Scholes was complicit in and still folk want to give him credit. Fuck me! Stoke fans eh?! Jesus wept. Sheik , you can accuse me of many things but giving Scholes credit definitively isn’t one of them , I wonder if attention will shift to hi, if we endure another relegation battle next year on his watch
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Post by boskampsflaps on May 26, 2018 17:36:30 GMT
Scholes is told what to do, he doesn't chose the players or have a say so why is he worthy of criticism? He has nothing to do with price paid or contract size and length?!?! Fuck me. What does he do for a million bastard quid a year then I'm guessing he takes advise for what they are worth or Stoke willing to pay, i doubt he just takes a wild guess at it. I don't know what he does, neither do you yet some how you know what he gets wrong, strange that
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Post by lordb on May 26, 2018 17:38:35 GMT
Hahaha the worst deal in 155 years of Stoke City football club, a deal that Scholes was complicit in and still folk want to give him credit. Fuck me! Stoke fans eh?! Jesus wept. Scholes is told what to do, he doesn't chose the players or have a say so why is he worthy of criticism? Because it was Scholes who negotiated the fee.
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Post by sheikhmomo on May 26, 2018 17:43:55 GMT
He has nothing to do with price paid or contract size and length?!?! Fuck me. What does he do for a million bastard quid a year then I'm guessing he takes advise for what they are worth or Stoke willing to pay, i doubt he just takes a wild guess at it. I don't know what he does, neither do you yet some how you know what he gets wrong, strange that How is the Wimmer deal in any way not fucking wrong?
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Post by boskampsflaps on May 26, 2018 17:49:40 GMT
I'm guessing he takes advise for what they are worth or Stoke willing to pay, i doubt he just takes a wild guess at it. I don't know what he does, neither do you yet some how you know what he gets wrong, strange that How is the Wimmer deal in any way not fucking wrong? I'm questioning Scholes roll in it not if it was a good transfer or not.
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Post by sheikhmomo on May 26, 2018 17:59:48 GMT
How is the Wimmer deal in any way not fucking wrong? I'm questioning Scholes roll in it not if it was a good transfer or not. Oh come on. Please.
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Post by malteser68 on May 26, 2018 18:04:02 GMT
I know I'm in a small minority here but I don't think Wimmer is as bad a player as most on here like to think. Tottenham saw something in him to sign him in the first place. Pulis wanted to sign him and he is normally a good judge of a defender. Austria think he's good enough for their national team. Fitness is his major issue and if he could resolve that then I believe that he could still be a decent player. Never worth 18M though. Pulis’ defensive signings included upton and woodgate on their last legs, the completely gash danny collins and one ibrahima sonko !!
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Post by boskampsflaps on May 26, 2018 18:04:05 GMT
I'm questioning Scholes roll in it not if it was a good transfer or not. Oh come on. Please. I know, I know role* If you know please tell as I don't get any info on what goes on behind the scenes....
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Post by malteser68 on May 26, 2018 18:05:00 GMT
Lets get rid asap
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Post by sheikhmomo on May 26, 2018 18:14:55 GMT
I know, I know role* If you know please tell as I don't get any info on what goes on behind the scenes.... Well in the name of bastard Jesus, what the fuck does he do? Do you honestly believe that Mark Hughes not only identified and signed Wimmer he put together the absurd transfer fee and the bumper contract that will hamper the club for seasons? Christ. Ever likely the Coates boys lied to us on May 8th. They certainly know their gullible fucking audience.
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Post by boskampsflaps on May 26, 2018 18:24:07 GMT
I know, I know role* If you know please tell as I don't get any info on what goes on behind the scenes.... Well in the name of bastard Jesus, what the fuck does he do? Do you honestly believe that Mark Hughes not only identified and signed Wimmer he put together the absurd transfer fee and the bumper contract that will hamper the club for seasons? Christ. Ever likely the Coates boys lied to us on May 8th. They certainly know their gullible fucking audience. I'm not gullible but no ones actually able to say what he did wrong, I know very little about his job, as you seem otherwise I'm asking, but you seem not to given your replies, as I said I doubt he comes up with the value and wages on a whim, he gets told a budget not makes it up himself, he seems to get a lot of shit given that no one knows what he does. The people in charge that know a lot more than we do seem to be happy with him given he's still around.
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Post by feynmann2 on May 26, 2018 18:31:43 GMT
I know, I know role* If you know please tell as I don't get any info on what goes on behind the scenes.... Well in the name of bastard Jesus, what the fuck does he do? Do you honestly believe that Mark Hughes not only identified and signed Wimmer he put together the absurd transfer fee and the bumper contract that will hamper the club for seasons? Christ. Ever likely the Coates boys lied to us on May 8th. They certainly know their gullible fucking audience. This, absolutely - as the Chief Exec if he didn't oversee and sign off on one of the biggest transfers in the clubs history then he has no business being there... and if he did sign off on this particular deal he has no business being there... it really is time for him and Cartwright to go
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Post by Deleted on May 26, 2018 18:36:09 GMT
I know I'm in a small minority here but I don't think Wimmer is as bad a player as most on here like to think. Tottenham saw something in him to sign him in the first place. Pulis wanted to sign him and he is normally a good judge of a defender. Austria think he's good enough for their national team. Fitness is his major issue and if he could resolve that then I believe that he could still be a decent player. Never worth 18M though. Pulis’ defensive signings included upton and woodgate on their last legs, the completely gash danny collins and one ibrahima sonko !! I raise you a Paul Williams!
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Post by sheikhmomo on May 26, 2018 19:42:36 GMT
Well in the name of bastard Jesus, what the fuck does he do? Do you honestly believe that Mark Hughes not only identified and signed Wimmer he put together the absurd transfer fee and the bumper contract that will hamper the club for seasons? Christ. Ever likely the Coates boys lied to us on May 8th. They certainly know their gullible fucking audience. I'm not gullible but no ones actually able to say what he did wrong, I know very little about his job, as you seem otherwise I'm asking, but you seem not to given your replies, as I said I doubt he comes up with the value and wages on a whim, he gets told a budget not makes it up himself, he seems to get a lot of shit given that no one knows what he does. The people in charge that know a lot more than we do seem to be happy with him given he's still around. It's an absolute scandal he's still around. The fact that Jon and Peter Coates lied to supporters on May 8th makes it even fucking worse.
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Post by boskampsflaps on May 26, 2018 19:49:39 GMT
I'm not gullible but no ones actually able to say what he did wrong, I know very little about his job, as you seem otherwise I'm asking, but you seem not to given your replies, as I said I doubt he comes up with the value and wages on a whim, he gets told a budget not makes it up himself, he seems to get a lot of shit given that no one knows what he does. The people in charge that know a lot more than we do seem to be happy with him given he's still around. It's an absolute scandal he's still around. The fact that Jon and Peter Coates lied to supporters on May 8th makes it even fucking worse. I just want to know what he's done, not a load of guesses.
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Post by feynmann2 on May 26, 2018 19:54:48 GMT
It's an absolute scandal he's still around. The fact that Jon and Peter Coates lied to supporters on May 8th makes it even fucking worse. I just want to know what he's done, not a load of guesses. He has not managed the team around him to deliver success or even stability, and over a period of 18 months he has either actively participated in, or failed to address, successive poor transfer windows, as Chief Exec he has the power to sack anyone at the the club... no changes were made until it was far too late and then bad decisions were made on replacements - look at the number of Chief Exec that go in business for failures within their team - whether directly involved or not...he is ultimately responsible hence getting paid the big bucks
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Post by Gods on May 26, 2018 20:04:10 GMT
I know I'm in a small minority here but I don't think Wimmer is as bad a player as most on here like to think. Tottenham saw something in him to sign him in the first place. Pulis wanted to sign him and he is normally a good judge of a defender. Austria think he's good enough for their national team. Fitness is his major issue and if he could resolve that then I believe that he could still be a decent player. Never worth 18M though. Ive not bought the fitness thing , I wish it were true because it would be easy to fix, but I think his biggest problem is that he's rubbish at football.
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Post by Deleted on May 26, 2018 20:25:05 GMT
jesus wept ! Ive seen better park football players
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Post by boskampsflaps on May 26, 2018 22:16:00 GMT
I just want to know what he's done, not a load of guesses. He has not managed the team around him to deliver success or even stability, and over a period of 18 months he has either actively participated in, or failed to address, successive poor transfer windows, as Chief Exec he has the power to sack anyone at the the club... no changes were made until it was far too late and then bad decisions were made on replacements - look at the number of Chief Exec that go in business for failures within their team - whether directly involved or not...he is ultimately responsible hence getting paid the big bucks In that case I'm sure Coates will get rid knowing how bad he must be first hand.
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Post by feynmann2 on May 26, 2018 22:21:51 GMT
He has not managed the team around him to deliver success or even stability, and over a period of 18 months he has either actively participated in, or failed to address, successive poor transfer windows, as Chief Exec he has the power to sack anyone at the the club... no changes were made until it was far too late and then bad decisions were made on replacements - look at the number of Chief Exec that go in business for failures within their team - whether directly involved or not...he is ultimately responsible hence getting paid the big bucks In that case I'm sure Coates will get rid knowing how bad he must be first hand. That he hasn't already speaks poorly of our chairman - my only hope is that a full independent investigation is on-going and he is waiting for the result...
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