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Post by oggyoggy on Apr 7, 2018 7:31:56 GMT
One gets you several years in prison, the other doesn't. That's the difference. Does it? Although he appeared to be giving in I felt It may be a ruse to get me to lower my guard... I genuinely felt at the time that my life was in danger so I took such action I felt necessary to protect myself as an elderly pensioner. If I’m on the jury it convinces me and if his mucker says something different then I’m going with the home owner as the more reliable witness. Doesn’t really matter as it seems justice is done but I’m a big fan of a home owner having the right to protect his home. Yes it does. If the pensioner admitted to what I said he would be likely to be done for murder. Self defence only works if you use reasonable force. Stabbing someone in the back 5 times when they are leaving and then several more times when they are on the floor (which I believe is the description I gave) is unlikely to be considered reasonable. The morality of it is irrelevant, it is whether he used reasonable force to defend himself. I would say in my scenario the stabbings in the back could potentially be reasonable (or the firstof them at least). Stabbing someone on the floor...no. I'm glad the bloke has been released. He obviously did the right thing.
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Post by bigjohnritchie on Apr 7, 2018 12:23:20 GMT
As somewhat expected the innocent gent has had to move out of his home. dailym.ai/2GCoU6W
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Post by felonious on Apr 10, 2018 13:03:55 GMT
As somewhat expected the innocent gent has had to move out of his home. dailym.ai/2GCoU6WI hadn't read that link Big John. He sounds like a real nasty piece of work.
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Post by bigjohnritchie on Apr 10, 2018 14:57:49 GMT
As somewhat expected the innocent gent has had to move out of his home. dailym.ai/2GCoU6WI hadn't read that link Big John. He sounds like a real nasty piece of work. Yes Felonious, I think it's terrible that an innocent man ( and his wife and extended family no doubt) have had their lives disrupted beyond belief, from an incident in which they were the victims and we which was inflicted upon them. Clearly if they could return to their home ( which they can't)..they would not enjoy a sound night's sleep
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Post by felonious on Apr 10, 2018 15:42:56 GMT
I hadn't read that link Big John. He sounds like a real nasty piece of work. Yes Felonious, I think it's terrible that an innocent man ( and his wife and extended family no doubt) have had their lives disrupted beyond belief, from an incident in which they were the victims and we which was inflicted upon them. Clearly if they could return to their home ( which they can't)..they would not enjoy a sound night's sleep The number and placing of the flowers opposite to the property appears very sinister as was the large car driving around to intimidate the neighbours.
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Post by bigjohnritchie on Apr 10, 2018 16:40:16 GMT
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Post by henry on Apr 10, 2018 16:46:46 GMT
"heart of gold" is that someones sick joke ? Even his mate ran off and left him.
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Post by felonious on Apr 10, 2018 18:19:58 GMT
There is an interesting update on the BBC site.
The bouquets have been repeatedly taken down by a man who called it an "insult" to Mr Osborn-Brooks.
A man indentifying himself as Cecil Coley said he first removed the flowers overnight on Monday after becoming "infuriated" by the tributes.
He said: "It was a residential area they were placing flowers on. It was inappropriate, and the guy deserves no tribute."
Cecil Coley is also the name of a 72-year-old florist who was arrested on suspicion of murder after he stabbed an armed intruder to death in 2011. He was later released without charge.
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