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Post by Olgrligm on Aug 20, 2020 22:04:42 GMT
What on earth would a Martin O'Neil goalie be like? Gunn is a very progressive modern goalkeeper. I just thought MON would go for a more solid sort. I have this fear that 'modern' and 'progressive' are code words for 'butterfingers' and 'faffs about with the ball'. Much like the modern and progressive John Stones and Michael Mancienne.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Aug 20, 2020 22:07:55 GMT
You muttley and lordb are getting your knickers in a twist because it's me. It's funny as fuck but also very very strange. Add in what muttley clearly perceived as a dig at the manager (but he's the best fan in the world so has to tow the line) and you get a weird turn of events from some inoxuos comments about a goalkeeper who's a very good footballer. It's fucking odd. Tbh I think it says more about your posting style rather than what I or others thought you meant. The only thing odd is your posting style. And stop using “it’s odd” as you point of last rebuttal It’s fuckin odd... He's a very good footballer, that was literally it. And then you have muttley's shite about being an expert. The first mention of mine of Gunn on here was in 2010 A fleeting mention but since then he's been that I've kept an eye on. And as previously said he is the complete opposite of what I'd expect MON to go for in a 'keeper. Which imo is positive if it's true.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Aug 20, 2020 22:08:39 GMT
Gunn is a very progressive modern goalkeeper. I just thought MON would go for a more solid sort. I have this fear that 'modern' and 'progressive' are code words for 'butterfingers' and 'faffs about with the ball'. Much like the modern and progressive John Stones and Michael Mancienne. That is indeed what I fear most Stoke fans would think and would not give him the time of day.
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Post by RF10 on Aug 20, 2020 22:10:23 GMT
Tbh I think it says more about your posting style rather than what I or others thought you meant. The only thing odd is your posting style. And stop using “it’s odd” as you point of last rebuttal It’s fuckin odd... He's a very good footballer, that was literally it. And then you have muttley's shite about being an expert. The first mention of mine of Gunn on here was in 2010 A fleeting mention but since then he's been that I've kept an eye on. And as previously said he is the complete opposite of what I'd expect MON to go for in a 'keeper. Which imo is positive if it's true. Anyone would think you have shares in him the way your going on
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Post by bayernoatcake on Aug 20, 2020 22:11:58 GMT
He's a very good footballer, that was literally it. And then you have muttley's shite about being an expert. The first mention of mine of Gunn on here was in 2010 A fleeting mention but since then he's been that I've kept an eye on. And as previously said he is the complete opposite of what I'd expect MON to go for in a 'keeper. Which imo is positive if it's true. Anyone would think you have shares in him the way your going on Hahahaha I was going to mention that but the idea of a goalkeeper that can pass has set them off nevermind owning a piece of him on the internet!
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Post by boskampsflaps on Aug 20, 2020 22:17:17 GMT
Are we not meant to have heard of him, I'm shit with knowing players for the most part and even I've heard of him, no idea about his passing ability mind
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Post by bayernoatcake on Aug 20, 2020 22:20:05 GMT
Are we not meant to have heard of him, I'm shit with knowing players for the most part and even I've heard of him, no idea about his passing ability mind Me too, the Fox bloke had even scored against us and I'd never heard of the cunt. But for me Gunn has been around for donkeys, was meant to be very highly rated by Guardiola, went for big money and didn't quite go right for him. It's not like he's some lad from Grimsby.
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Post by Championship Potter on Aug 20, 2020 22:22:33 GMT
Not sure I’m ecstatic about using a loan spot on a keeper. Feel like we should be going for the best Prem prospects on loan (ideally winger or two) rather than this signing. Could well be permanent? Southampton probably won't have any use for him if Butland goes there as they'll have 2 relatively young keepers fighting for the spot there. Hasenhuttl could well already have made his mind up on him, and the £10m is pretty much a sunk cost at this point. If they can use him to get Butland, he could take that - and both sides hope a fresh start can help both keepers? theathletic.co.uk/1926950/At the time he was dropped for Southampton, Gunn’s save percentage of 54.6 per cent was the second-worst in the league this season after Kepa Arrizabalaga. Statistically speaking, Gunn had a horrid 2019-20 season.
but when we look at the chart… You can see what made Hasenhuttl hand him the starting goalkeeper position before the season began.
Gunn is very much the modern goalkeeper, who is adept with his feet (that 8 o’clock shape again) and frequently races off his line (the big spike at 6 o’clock).
“I spent a lot of time at St George’s Park watching the under-21s train a lot and they were masters of playing out from the back. All the keepers, (including Gunn) were calm and comfortable,” says Preece.
“He doesn’t look anxious on the ball. He actually looks really calm. The quietness can be a strength. You don’t have to be a ranter and a raver to be dominant. He has got a calmness about him as well.”
Gunn is good with his feet. He can calm a defence down when passing out from the back but, during Southampton’s dark days, they needed someone to be dominant with their hands, able to come for crosses and save the many shots they gave up on goal. While Gunn was OK at the crosses (the 4 o’clock), he got sucked into something of a negative spiral with his shot-stopping (12 o’clock).I think on balance I’d take him. Not sure a club in our current position can turn their noses up at getting a keeper of his pedigree and if it means we get to offload Butland then looks the right call. Just can’t see how Gunn can be any worse than Butland has been for the last season or two and we are in danger of being stuck with Butland for another year at this rate.
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Post by datguy on Aug 20, 2020 22:22:48 GMT
Joyce has removed his tweet so... wide of the mark?
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Post by baystokie on Aug 20, 2020 22:25:13 GMT
Are we not meant to have heard of him, I'm shit with knowing players for the most part and even I've heard of him, no idea about his passing ability mind Me too, the Fox bloke had even scored against us and I'd never heard of the cunt. But for me Gunn has been around for donkeys, was meant to be very highly rated by Guardiola, went for big money and didn't quite go right for him. It's not like he's some lad from Grimsby. 'Been around for donkeys' seems a bit harsh for a 'lad' of 24?
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Post by bayernoatcake on Aug 20, 2020 22:25:51 GMT
Me too, the Fox bloke had even scored against us and I'd never heard of the cunt. But for me Gunn has been around for donkeys, was meant to be very highly rated by Guardiola, went for big money and didn't quite go right for him. It's not like he's some lad from Grimsby. 'Been around for donkeys' seems a bit harsh for a 'lad' of 24? Like I said, my first my mention of him on here was 2010!
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Post by davejohnno1 on Aug 20, 2020 22:36:39 GMT
'Been around for donkeys' seems a bit harsh for a 'lad' of 24? Like I said, my first my mention of him on here was 2010! So you mentioned him when he was 14? 5 years before Guardiola became man city manager?
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Post by bayernoatcake on Aug 20, 2020 22:39:18 GMT
Like I said, my first my mention of him on here was 2010! So you mentioned him when he was 14? 5 years before Guardiola became man city manager? Yes very fleetingly! But that's when I was first aware of him yeah. What's Guardiola got to do with that?
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Post by baystokie on Aug 20, 2020 22:39:19 GMT
'Been around for donkeys' seems a bit harsh for a 'lad' of 24? Like I said, my first my mention of him on here was 2010! I know you are interested in the Academy and Development issues but he was only 14 in 2010!
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Post by Gods on Aug 20, 2020 22:40:43 GMT
Angus has played very little adult football, 22 games for Soton and 46 games for Norwich in his entire life.
I can't imagine anyone knows if he is any good or not.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Aug 20, 2020 22:41:23 GMT
Like I said, my first my mention of him on here was 2010! I know you are interested in the Academy and Development issues but he was only 14 in 2010! I was looking at an England U16 squad list and noticed his name apparently: oatcakefanzine.proboards.com/thread/137285/england-16s-diego-poyetAnd tbh from there I've tried to see how he's getting on as he always seemed decent.
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Post by davejohnno1 on Aug 20, 2020 22:42:10 GMT
So you mentioned him when he was 14? 5 years before Guardiola became man city manager? Yes very fleetingly! But that's when I was first aware of him yeah. What's Guardiola got to do with that? Thought I'd read you mention guardiola and why gunn isn't or shouldn't be unheard of. I'm just amazed that you posted in 2010 about a Norwich city u14 goalkeeper.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Aug 20, 2020 22:42:48 GMT
Yes very fleetingly! But that's when I was first aware of him yeah. What's Guardiola got to do with that? Thought I'd read you mention guardiola and why gunn isn't or shouldn't be unheard of. I'm just amazed that you posted in 2010 about a Norwich city u14 goalkeeper. See above!
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Post by davejohnno1 on Aug 20, 2020 22:52:01 GMT
Thought I'd read you mention guardiola and why gunn isn't or shouldn't be unheard of. I'm just amazed that you posted in 2010 about a Norwich city u14 goalkeeper. See above! Fair play if not a little sad that you are prepared to go back so far to find it. Were I a pedant, I'd point out that you weren't actually posting about him because you'd spotted his talent, you simply asked if he was Brian's son when someone else mentioned him. Fair play for remembering it was 2010 though. For a bloke that admitted he couldn't remember what he had for his teas last night and has a terrible memory it is mightily impressive. 👍
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Post by bayernoatcake on Aug 20, 2020 22:54:59 GMT
Fair play if not a little sad that you are prepared to go back so far to find it. Were I a pedant, I'd point out that you weren't actually posting about him because you'd spotted his talent, you simply asked if he was Brian's son when someone else mentioned him. Fair play for remembering it was 2010 though. For a bloke that admitted he couldn't remember what he had for his teas last night and has a terrible memory it is mightily impressive. 👍 It took about 20 seconds I never said I'd spotted his talent, literally said I first mentioned him. But I knew I'd been following his career from whenever I first of him because that aspect of it intrigued me. I didn't remember.........I did a search! That took 20 seconds
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Post by davejohnno1 on Aug 20, 2020 22:56:16 GMT
Fair play if not a little sad that you are prepared to go back so far to find it. Were I a pedant, I'd point out that you weren't actually posting about him because you'd spotted his talent, you simply asked if he was Brian's son when someone else mentioned him. Fair play for remembering it was 2010 though. For a bloke that admitted he couldn't remember what he had for his teas last night and has a terrible memory it is mightily impressive. 👍 It took about 20 seconds I never said I'd spotted his talent, literally said I first mentioned him. But I knew I'd been following his career from whenever I first of him because that aspect of it intrigued me. I didn't remember.........I did a search! That took 20 seconds Impressive either way.
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Post by wilcopotter on Aug 20, 2020 22:56:36 GMT
Good deal if we can get it done. He’s not what I’d presume to be a very MON goalie though. He’s a better footballer than our midfield bar Mikel. You really do talk some shite👍
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Post by bayernoatcake on Aug 20, 2020 22:59:34 GMT
Good deal if we can get it done. He’s not what I’d presume to be a very MON goalie though. He’s a better footballer than our midfield bar Mikel. You really do talk some shite👍 Why? Is a progressive footballing goalkeeper what you would expect MON to sign? And he's a very good ball player.
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Post by LGH87 on Aug 20, 2020 23:43:32 GMT
Christ the mob are out in force tonight😂
The joke about Gunn being better than all of our midfield bar Mikel was a proper Whooosh moment😂.
I often follow random player’s careers for varying reasons, relatives, saw them play in a youth game etc etc why people need to question Bayern over how much he knows about Gunn is beyond me.
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Post by PotterLog on Aug 21, 2020 1:37:35 GMT
Angus has played very little adult football, 22 games for Soton and 46 games for Norwich in his entire life. I can't imagine anyone knows if he is any good or not. 70 games in the top two divisions doesn’t strike me as “very little football” for a 24-year-old goalie. My Saints mate says he was excellent for them last season until the 9-0 happened and he was made a bit of a scapegoat.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 21, 2020 5:14:14 GMT
Kasey Keller, Tim Flowers, Pegguy Arphexad? Wondering how may times idiots like me will keep calling our manager Martin?😖 If I had a pound for every time I've typed 'Martin' before deleting it and typed 'Michael'....
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Post by nutterpotter on Aug 21, 2020 5:58:43 GMT
Paul Joyce’s tweet has been deleted!
Hmmm what’s gone on here then?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 21, 2020 6:11:26 GMT
Paul Joyce’s tweet has been deleted! Hmmm what’s gone on here then? He's either jumped the gun or well wide of the mark.
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Post by FullerMagic on Aug 21, 2020 7:04:55 GMT
Not sure what good it does to delete the tweet, without further comment, a day later!
He's either been asked to take it down by one of the parties (which serves no purpose at this stage, surely?) or he now thinks it was wrong (in which case, what harm would it do to say so?)
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Post by Olgrligm on Aug 21, 2020 7:18:08 GMT
I have this fear that 'modern' and 'progressive' are code words for 'butterfingers' and 'faffs about with the ball'. Much like the modern and progressive John Stones and Michael Mancienne. That is indeed what I fear most Stoke fans would think and would not give him the time of day. Don't get me wrong, it would be lovely if he's the new Neuer, but if that comes at the expense of the proper nuts and bolts then you may as well put a midfielder in goal. I don't really know anything about him, but it's always a worry when players are described as progressive because it usually means that they can't do the important parts of their job.
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