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Post by Deleted on Oct 17, 2020 5:34:12 GMT
A quick breakdown of the gun-related puns in this thread so far: Shot/shoot: 9Barrel/calibre/bore: 9Gun/tommy/rifle/revolver/Smith&Wesson/Beretta: 9Bullet/powder: 7Trigger/fire/blast: 5Aim/target/sights/wide of the mark: 4Magazine: 1Ballistic: 1A total of 45 gun-related puns. 8% of the thread. Bang on that post is.
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Post by potterpaul on Oct 17, 2020 5:57:43 GMT
It's a bit of a half-cocked signing
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Post by pottersrule on Oct 17, 2020 5:58:25 GMT
A quick breakdown of the gun-related puns in this thread so far: Shot/shoot: 9Barrel/calibre/bore: 9Gun/tommy/rifle/revolver/Smith&Wesson/Beretta: 9Bullet/powder: 7Trigger/fire/blast: 5Aim/target/sights/wide of the mark: 4Magazine: 1Ballistic: 1A total of 45 gun-related puns. 8% of the thread. Bang on that post is. He certainly comes from good Stock.
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Post by werrington on Oct 17, 2020 6:20:48 GMT
Doesn't seem to be an option to buy, which makes it a bit more perplexing Surely it’s a very good deal all round? We get a very good keeper on loan until the end of the season to compliment our other excellent keeper and either can play if one is injured or sent off He then goes back and in steps the highly rated Joe Bursik to press for a first team start
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Post by slicko on Oct 17, 2020 6:27:29 GMT
A quick breakdown of the gun-related puns in this thread so far: Shot/shoot: 9Barrel/calibre/bore: 9Gun/tommy/rifle/revolver/Smith&Wesson/Beretta: 9Bullet/powder: 7Trigger/fire/blast: 5Aim/target/sights/wide of the mark: 4Magazine: 1Ballistic: 1A total of 45 gun-related puns. 8% of the thread. Angus Gunn’s agent is Thomas Rex. He finds keepers who are passed over by bigger clubs for having a reach not commensurate with their height. You could say he’s a small arms dealer.
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Post by chell_rosey on Oct 17, 2020 6:37:00 GMT
A quick breakdown of the gun-related puns in this thread so far: Shot/shoot: 9Barrel/calibre/bore: 9Gun/tommy/rifle/revolver/Smith&Wesson/Beretta: 9Bullet/powder: 7Trigger/fire/blast: 5Aim/target/sights/wide of the mark: 4Magazine: 1Ballistic: 1A total of 45 gun-related puns. 8% of the thread. Angus Gunn’s agent is Thomas Rex. He finds keepers who are passed over by bigger clubs for having a reach not commensurate with their height. You could say he’s a small arms dealer. Was going to say what a load of rubbish but have to admit that's excellent...
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Post by PotterLog on Oct 17, 2020 6:44:17 GMT
A quick breakdown of the gun-related puns in this thread so far: Shot/shoot: 9Barrel/calibre/bore: 9Gun/tommy/rifle/revolver/Smith&Wesson/Beretta: 9Bullet/powder: 7Trigger/fire/blast: 5Aim/target/sights/wide of the mark: 4Magazine: 1Ballistic: 1A total of 45 gun-related puns. 8% of the thread. Angus Gunn’s agent is Thomas Rex. He finds keepers who are passed over by bigger clubs for having a reach not commensurate with their height. You could say he’s a small arms dealer. You've pistol over the other jokes in this thread
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Post by shrewspotter on Oct 17, 2020 6:51:29 GMT
A quick breakdown of the gun-related puns in this thread so far: Shot/shoot: 9Barrel/calibre/bore: 9Gun/tommy/rifle/revolver/Smith&Wesson/Beretta: 9Bullet/powder: 7Trigger/fire/blast: 5Aim/target/sights/wide of the mark: 4Magazine: 1Ballistic: 1A total of 45 gun-related puns. 8% of the thread. Angus Gunn’s agent is Thomas Rex. He finds keepers who are passed over by bigger clubs for having a reach not commensurate with their height. You could say he’s a small arms dealer. bravo How long did it take you to come up with that gag?
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Post by slicko on Oct 17, 2020 7:30:56 GMT
Angus Gunn’s agent is Thomas Rex. He finds keepers who are passed over by bigger clubs for having a reach not commensurate with their height. You could say he’s a small arms dealer. bravo How long did it take you to come up with that gag? 50 years experience and two minutes typing.
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Post by tachyon on Oct 17, 2020 7:53:14 GMT
What- are you actually saying that the job of the goalkeeper is not to stop the ball going into the net, or that Hassenhuttel hasn’t been watching him and has demoted him to his present position based on what he sees? Really? The numbers back up this view. In the Championship he was very good. Based on the quality & quantity of on target attempts he faced, there was only a 10% chance an average Championship keeper performed as well or better than Gunn at Norwich. That's top three shot stopping performance. Totally different story in the PL. 2018/19 there's a 90% chance an average PL keeper equals or betters his record. 2019/20 there's a 98% chance his goals allowed is equalled or bettered by an average PL keeper. Those are really poor performance levels. The 9 against Leicester is a symptom rather than a driver of his poor 2019/20 record, he's still in the bottom three for keepers with the Leicester data omitted. V good stopper at Championship level, has struggled throughout in the PL.
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Post by chiswickpotter on Oct 17, 2020 7:55:12 GMT
Doesn't seem to be an option to buy, which makes it a bit more perplexing Surely it’s a very good deal all round? We get a very good keeper on loan until the end of the season to compliment our other excellent keeper and either can play if one is injured or sent off He then goes back and in steps the highly rated Joe Bursik to press for a first team start That is a dangerously rational and thoughtful post. I doubt you will get many replies
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Post by Deleted on Oct 17, 2020 8:22:40 GMT
Doesn't seem to be an option to buy, which makes it a bit more perplexing Surely it’s a very good deal all round? We get a very good keeper on loan until the end of the season to compliment our other excellent keeper and either can play if one is injured or sent off He then goes back and in steps the highly rated Joe Bursik to press for a first team start As compared to what - getting no other keeper in? Then Yeah, it's a good deal. A better deal wouldve been a permanent signing that's worth investing time in, as this lad clearly needs to get his head straight pick his confidence up. A better deal still, wouldve been a Grant type situation. We were only really looking for cover here, and if we weren't then as the OP says - it's perplexing. And if we weren't just looking for cover then it creates more problems than it solves. I know it's good to have two solid keepers fighting for one spot - but it's high wages that could've gone elsewhere shirley? Agree about bringing Bursik in to be that guy next year to push for a first-team place, so why couldn't this loan have been a Grant or Federici type?
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Post by J-Roar on Oct 17, 2020 8:26:27 GMT
A quick breakdown of the gun-related puns in this thread so far: Shot/shoot: 9Barrel/calibre/bore: 9Gun/tommy/rifle/revolver/Smith&Wesson/Beretta: 9Bullet/powder: 7Trigger/fire/blast: 5Aim/target/sights/wide of the mark: 4Magazine: 1Ballistic: 1A total of 45 gun-related puns. 8% of the thread. How long did it take to rifle through the thread to get those numbers?
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Post by werrington on Oct 17, 2020 8:27:45 GMT
Surely it’s a very good deal all round? We get a very good keeper on loan until the end of the season to compliment our other excellent keeper and either can play if one is injured or sent off He then goes back and in steps the highly rated Joe Bursik to press for a first team start As compared to what - getting no other keeper in? Then Yeah, it's a good deal. A better deal wouldve been a permanent signing that's worth investing time in, as this lad clearly needs to get his head straight pick his confidence up. A better deal still, wouldve been a Grant type situation. We were only really looking for cover here, and if we weren't then as the OP says - it's perplexing. And if we weren't just looking for cover then it creates more problems than it solves. I know it's good to have two solid keepers fighting for one spot - but it's high wages that could've gone elsewhere shirley? Agree about bringing Bursik in to be that guy next year to push for a first-team place, so why couldn't this loan have been a Grant or Federici type? That reply doesn’t make sense Why would we sign somebody permanently and invest time in them when we’ve got two excellent keepers in Bursik and Blondie who are just that
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Post by sheds1862 on Oct 17, 2020 8:27:56 GMT
Whilst agreeing Bursik is a prospect, other than the lad at Leeds you rarely get a 21/22 year old in goals in the top 2 divisions. I don't personally see Bursik as number 2 any time soon.
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Post by werrington on Oct 17, 2020 8:29:43 GMT
Whilst agreeing Bursik is a prospect, other than the lad at Leeds you rarely get a 21/22 year old in goals in the top 2 divisions. I don't personally see Bursik as number 2 any time soon. Rarely doesn’t mean never mate The football league is full of young keepers just like Jack Butland was
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Post by FullerMagic on Oct 17, 2020 8:34:39 GMT
Surely it’s a very good deal all round? We get a very good keeper on loan until the end of the season to compliment our other excellent keeper and either can play if one is injured or sent off He then goes back and in steps the highly rated Joe Bursik to press for a first team start As compared to what - getting no other keeper in? Then Yeah, it's a good deal. A better deal wouldve been a permanent signing that's worth investing time in, as this lad clearly needs to get his head straight pick his confidence up. A better deal still, wouldve been a Grant type situation. We were only really looking for cover here, and if we weren't then as the OP says - it's perplexing. And if we weren't just looking for cover then it creates more problems than it solves. I know it's good to have two solid keepers fighting for one spot - but it's high wages that could've gone elsewhere shirley? Agree about bringing Bursik in to be that guy next year to push for a first-team place, so why couldn't this loan have been a Grant or Federici type? There are a lot of ways it could go. But a £10m, 24yo keeper on 30k-a-week who's been in the England squad seems an even more unnatural Championship No.2 than Davies was. Without knowing what's in MON's head - and what Gunn's being told - it's hard to say anything with certainty. If the idea is for Davies to carry on unless his current good form drops off a cliff, that's one thing. But it doesn't make a massive amount of sense for the back-up to be someone with Gunn's profile. Keeper pecking orders are normally very well defined. They're hardly ever set-up for there to be a legitimate fight for the shirt. It's going to be interesting to see what the plan is
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Post by sheds1862 on Oct 17, 2020 8:36:19 GMT
Whilst agreeing Bursik is a prospect, other than the lad at Leeds you rarely get a 21/22 year old in goals in the top 2 divisions. I don't personally see Bursik as number 2 any time soon. Rarely doesn’t mean never mate The football league is full of young keepers just like Jack Butland was Oh yes for sure. Just think keepers mature later ( in the main ) . I think the mentality higher up the food chain is to get a loan if anything happened to the number one. Butland did the rounds at Cheltenham and I think Pickford was Carlisle, so let's hope Bursik is the real deal soon
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Post by FullerMagic on Oct 17, 2020 8:37:33 GMT
Whilst agreeing Bursik is a prospect, other than the lad at Leeds you rarely get a 21/22 year old in goals in the top 2 divisions. I don't personally see Bursik as number 2 any time soon. Rarely doesn’t mean never mate The football league is full of young keepers just like Jack Butland was Young keepers have to keep playing though, don't they? If Bursik excels at Doncaster, he'll need another full 40 game+ season somewhere next season. Wouldn't have thought the plan is for him to return here to sit on the bench every week. Most No.2 keepers aren't developing 21 year-olds. They're normally mature, dependable back-ups whose career trajectory has peaked and levelled out, and who accept their role as cover
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Post by bgreen13 on Oct 17, 2020 8:38:17 GMT
Surely it’s a very good deal all round? We get a very good keeper on loan until the end of the season to compliment our other excellent keeper and either can play if one is injured or sent off He then goes back and in steps the highly rated Joe Bursik to press for a first team start As compared to what - getting no other keeper in? Then Yeah, it's a good deal. A better deal wouldve been a permanent signing that's worth investing time in, as this lad clearly needs to get his head straight pick his confidence up. A better deal still, wouldve been a Grant type situation. We were only really looking for cover here, and if we weren't then as the OP says - it's perplexing. And if we weren't just looking for cover then it creates more problems than it solves. I know it's good to have two solid keepers fighting for one spot - but it's high wages that could've gone elsewhere shirley? Agree about bringing Bursik in to be that guy next year to push for a first-team place, so why couldn't this loan have been a Grant or Federici type? That makes no sense. Grant was what 30 when we brought him in (on a loan, shock horror) so how could we invest time him in. Also people keep using the Grant analogy to feel sorry for Davies. Grant did come in as number 2 but performance wise he was better than our number 1.
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Post by thehoof on Oct 17, 2020 9:16:54 GMT
What- are you actually saying that the job of the goalkeeper is not to stop the ball going into the net, or that Hassenhuttel hasn’t been watching him and has demoted him to his present position based on what he sees? Really? The numbers back up this view. In the Championship he was very good. Based on the quality & quantity of on target attempts he faced, there was only a 10% chance an average Championship keeper performed as well or better than Gunn at Norwich. That's top three shot stopping performance. Totally different story in the PL. 2018/19 there's a 90% chance an average PL keeper equals or betters his record. 2019/20 there's a 98% chance his goals allowed is equalled or bettered by an average PL keeper. Those are really poor performance levels. The 9 against Leicester is a symptom rather than a driver of his poor 2019/20 record, he's still in the bottom three for keepers with the Leicester data omitted. V good stopper at Championship level, has struggled throughout in the PL. This is interesting- does it mean that the quality of premier league strikes is better than in the Championship (as the Premier League has better players, I would imagine that is so), or does it mean that a similar shot ( no matter what Division it was in) was more likely to be saved by Gunn in his Championship days, than in his Premier League days? I’m not writing Gunn off ( despite the theme running through my posts) but my concern is that once a goalkeeper’s form and confidence disappear , it becomes harder for them to get it back than an outfield player because any mistake they make is usually a goal, further worsening the confidence syndrome, whereas an outfield mistake doesn’t necessarily result in a goal.
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Post by sbstoke66 on Oct 17, 2020 9:49:19 GMT
A quick breakdown of the gun-related puns in this thread so far: Shot/shoot: 9Barrel/calibre/bore: 9Gun/tommy/rifle/revolver/Smith&Wesson/Beretta: 9Bullet/powder: 7Trigger/fire/blast: 5Aim/target/sights/wide of the mark: 4Magazine: 1Ballistic: 1A total of 45 gun-related puns. 8% of the thread. Angus Gunn’s agent is Thomas Rex. He finds keepers who are passed over by bigger clubs for having a reach not commensurate with their height. You could say he’s a small arms dealer.
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Post by sbstoke66 on Oct 17, 2020 9:50:07 GMT
Angus Gunn’s agent is Thomas Rex. He finds keepers who are passed over by bigger clubs for having a reach not commensurate with their height. You could say he’s a small arms dealer. His agent T Rex is a bit of a dinosaur
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Post by Deleted on Oct 17, 2020 9:50:55 GMT
As compared to what - getting no other keeper in? Then Yeah, it's a good deal. A better deal wouldve been a permanent signing that's worth investing time in, as this lad clearly needs to get his head straight pick his confidence up. A better deal still, wouldve been a Grant type situation. We were only really looking for cover here, and if we weren't then as the OP says - it's perplexing. And if we weren't just looking for cover then it creates more problems than it solves. I know it's good to have two solid keepers fighting for one spot - but it's high wages that could've gone elsewhere shirley? Agree about bringing Bursik in to be that guy next year to push for a first-team place, so why couldn't this loan have been a Grant or Federici type? That reply doesn’t make sense Why would we sign somebody permanently and invest time in them when we’ve got two excellent keepers in Bursik and Blondie who are just that I think the transfer is unnecessary despite knowing we need a backup keeper. In short, we've gone for the wrong back up keeper Gunn's pedigree will mean he wants to be #1 and that disrupts the balance - we're using up a huge proportion of wages to improve another club's player in a position where we only really needed back up. I don't have a problem with the short term element of getting a loan in for Bursik as you stated. My worry is that we waste time effort and resources developing another club's player when a Federici type loan could've served the same purpose without jeopardising the progress of Davies.
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Post by mattyd2 on Oct 17, 2020 9:51:33 GMT
Me Coat Up
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Post by Seymour Beaver on Oct 17, 2020 10:25:36 GMT
That reply doesn’t make sense Why would we sign somebody permanently and invest time in them when we’ve got two excellent keepers in Bursik and Blondie who are just that I think the transfer is unnecessary despite knowing we need a backup keeper. In short, we've gone for the wrong back up keeper Gunn's pedigree will mean he wants to be #1 and that disrupts the balance - we're using up a huge proportion of wages to improve another club's player in a position where we only really needed back up. I don't have a problem with the short term element of getting a loan in for Bursik as you stated. My worry is that we waste time effort and resources developing another club's player when a Federici type loan could've served the same purpose without jeopardising the progress of Davies. Progress of Davies? Davies is 28 - a year older than Butland. The flip side of the arguement is without strong competition we could find ourselves back to square 1 like we were with Butland - where Davies becomes a liability but is undroppable. I like what I have seen of Davies so far but all players need to be kept on their toes.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 17, 2020 11:18:08 GMT
I think the transfer is unnecessary despite knowing we need a backup keeper. In short, we've gone for the wrong back up keeper Gunn's pedigree will mean he wants to be #1 and that disrupts the balance - we're using up a huge proportion of wages to improve another club's player in a position where we only really needed back up. I don't have a problem with the short term element of getting a loan in for Bursik as you stated. My worry is that we waste time effort and resources developing another club's player when a Federici type loan could've served the same purpose without jeopardising the progress of Davies. Progress of Davies? Davies is 28 - a year older than Butland. The flip side of the arguement is without strong competition we could find ourselves back to square 1 like we were with Butland - where Davies becomes a liability but is undroppable. I like what I have seen of Davies so far but all players need to be kept on their toes. A keeper was necessary. Not this keeper on loan though.
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Post by thestatusquo on Oct 17, 2020 11:20:51 GMT
I’ve heard he’s a bit of a loose cannon
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Post by samwidge on Oct 17, 2020 11:27:47 GMT
Hopefully he's of the right calibre Heard Gunn is a big bore. If he's no good. He could get fired.
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Post by Goonie on Oct 17, 2020 11:32:26 GMT
A quick breakdown of the gun-related puns in this thread so far: Shot/shoot: 9Barrel/calibre/bore: 9Gun/tommy/rifle/revolver/Smith&Wesson/Beretta: 9Bullet/powder: 7Trigger/fire/blast: 5Aim/target/sights/wide of the mark: 4Magazine: 1Ballistic: 1A total of 45 gun-related puns. 8% of the thread. It's clear that puns are a huge trigger for you I think you've got the other posters bang to rights though, like fish in a barrel You just need to bite the bullet and accept the posters on here all think they're quite the pistol and will use the Oatcake to push their own short-sighted agenda That said just bite the bullet because eventually it musket better Hopefully I've achieved the aim of the post and got my point blank across Gun
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