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Post by malteser68 on Mar 17, 2018 19:12:21 GMT
He's better than any of the other candidates in the revolving door of strikers. At least he gives us a bit of an outlet. An outlet to the championship
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Post by werrington on Mar 17, 2018 19:12:28 GMT
Thought he did ok today on his own. Don’t expect him to be pacey but I haven’t seen any of our talented wingers take anyone on beat them and cross the ball for Crouchy for weeks. Fucking weeks So why the fuck play him then ....18 games yep 18 without a goal Go now lambert
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Post by crapslinger on Mar 17, 2018 19:14:42 GMT
Do you blame the player or the managers who have not replaced him and continue to use him as the go to man ? It’s not the players fault that he is way past his best. It’s the managers who continue to pick him who are to blame. Paul Lambert is just another dinosaur parading aroundas a manager. We lacked any bottle in the appointment & are getting exactly what we deserve Why on earth did Hughes extend his contract, if he was here as an ambassador for the club fine as a player meh.
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Post by ibby on Mar 17, 2018 19:29:28 GMT
His legs have gone.
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Post by Rick Grimes on Mar 17, 2018 19:37:46 GMT
You just can’t play him as a lone striker with no-one playing in and around him. Yet our last 3 managers have. The mind boggles.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 17, 2018 19:40:13 GMT
Was poor today but that's not a slight on the man.
Two great balls were put through from midfield today that he couldn't win due to not having the pace to get them; not his fault as he was picked by the manager, but Berahino/Jese probably could've been on the end of them. Game would've been a different story, even with the sending off.
Bad recruitment to blame - yes. But the lack of balls from the manager to play a quicker frontman/men against two centre backs not known for any great deal of pace smacks of shocking management.
Could've worked with another frontman. Didn't need Charlie as long as that other frontman pressed a bit from the front.
Just disappointed really. Expected way more from Lambert in regards to such a massive game. Everton were poor but we facilitated the better aspects of their play.
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Post by trickydicky73 on Mar 17, 2018 20:28:59 GMT
Was poor today but that's not a slight on the man. Two great balls were put through from midfield today that he couldn't win due to not having the pace to get them; not his fault as he was picked by the manager, but Berahino/Jese probably could've been on the end of them. Game would've been a different story, even with the sending off. Bad recruitment to blame - yes. But the lack of balls from the manager to play a quicker frontman/men against two centre backs not known for any great deal of pace smacks of shocking management. Could've worked with another frontman. Didn't need Charlie as long as that other frontman pressed a bit from the front. Just disappointed really. Expected way more from Lambert in regards to such a massive game. Everton were poor but we facilitated the better aspects of their play. Totally agree. Even little things like putting pressure on the defenders and making them reluctant to pass to the keeper are beyond him, so it's utterly pointless playing him as a lone striker.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 17, 2018 21:14:30 GMT
Was poor today but that's not a slight on the man. Two great balls were put through from midfield today that he couldn't win due to not having the pace to get them; not his fault as he was picked by the manager, but Berahino/Jese probably could've been on the end of them. Game would've been a different story, even with the sending off. Bad recruitment to blame - yes. But the lack of balls from the manager to play a quicker frontman/men against two centre backs not known for any great deal of pace smacks of shocking management. Could've worked with another frontman. Didn't need Charlie as long as that other frontman pressed a bit from the front. Just disappointed really. Expected way more from Lambert in regards to such a massive game. Everton were poor but we facilitated the better aspects of their play. Totally agree. Even little things like putting pressure on the defenders and making them reluctant to pass to the keeper are beyond him, so it's utterly pointless playing him as a lone striker. That's exactly it! It's like playing with ten (nine today?) men at times. The fact that you could've guessed which CBs they were going to play even before the teams were announced shows rank bad planning from Lambert. Crouch couldn't even win balls in the air today due to their physicality - what use was he? At least Berahino or Jese could've pressed them a tiny bit. Christ.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 18, 2018 11:30:22 GMT
Their CBs basically played on the half way line, knowing full well Crouch can't run. He was so bad yesterday that I cant remember a single thing he did that was of any note, aimless flick ons to their defenders/keeper. Lost possession quite a few times.
He simply should not be playing at a Premier League level, he's been fucking awful for a long time.
What I cant understand though is that their 2 CBs are so slow, we generally play counter attacking so we put the slowest and most immobile player in the league up front. Add to that not one of the midfielders were quick so a) Crouch couldn't get past a man and b) our midfield couldn't overlap due to lack of pace themselves.
Its beggars belief what some managers see.
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Post by sufolkstokie on Mar 18, 2018 11:33:02 GMT
He was shockingly bad and yet some still think he can do a job in the Championship
Time to retire
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Post by loosestools on Mar 18, 2018 11:35:44 GMT
It’s not the players fault that he is way past his best. It’s the managers who continue to pick him who are to blame. Paul Lambert is just another dinosaur parading aroundas a manager. We lacked any bottle in the appointment & are getting exactly what we deserve Why on earth did Hughes extend his contract, if he was here as an ambassador for the club fine as a player meh. He was due to meet the kids in a school in Market Drayton last week, but didn't turn up. However - the fees - £500 per hour - just to answer some inane questions about his favourite food etc. Do these people give nothing and take everything? Not saying he isnt a decent chap but bloody hell £500!
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Post by crapslinger on Mar 18, 2018 11:38:05 GMT
Why on earth did Hughes extend his contract, if he was here as an ambassador for the club fine as a player meh. He was due to meet the kids in a school in Market Drayton last week, but didn't turn up. However - the fees - £500 per hour - just to answer some inane questions about his favourite food etc. Do these people give nothing and take everything? Not saying he isnt a decent chap but bloody hell £500! Now that has truly shocked me what a twatish thing to do .
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Post by loosestools on Mar 18, 2018 11:42:45 GMT
He was due to meet the kids in a school in Market Drayton last week, but didn't turn up. However - the fees - £500 per hour - just to answer some inane questions about his favourite food etc. Do these people give nothing and take everything? Not saying he isnt a decent chap but bloody hell £500! Now that has truly shocked me what a twatish thing to do . It did include a half hour appearance in school assembly plus half an hour of Q and A to be fair! A really tough gig.
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Post by clarkeda on Mar 18, 2018 11:57:11 GMT
He’s 6 foot 7 but when he goes to head the ball he jumps and turns into 4 foot 7.
Its remarkable that lambert couldn’t see Keane was winning everything and we needed a different approach, we had more joy when Jesé and bera were on offering movement in the channels and behind.
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Post by Edward Tattsyrup on Mar 18, 2018 12:14:15 GMT
It's really quite simple. If you play Crouchie you tell him to hang around the box and put Crosse in from all over the pitch from wide areas.
Did we do that? And why not?
When crouch plays up front, we knock ball in to feet, channels and expect him to spin in behind. We change it for Jese or Bera and then we start twatting it.
You really couldn't make this shit up.
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Post by werrington on Mar 18, 2018 12:32:07 GMT
It's really quite simple. If you play Crouchie you tell him to hang around the box and put Crosse in from all over the pitch from wide areas. Did we do that? And why not? When crouch plays up front, we knock ball in to feet, channels and expect him to spin in behind. We change it for Jese or Bera and then we start twatting it. You really couldn't make this shit up. We got plenty of crosses in first half mate ...he barely won any of them nor the long balls forward
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Post by davejohnno1 on Mar 18, 2018 12:34:42 GMT
It's really quite simple. If you play Crouchie you tell him to hang around the box and put Crosse in from all over the pitch from wide areas. Did we do that? And why not? When crouch plays up front, we knock ball in to feet, channels and expect him to spin in behind. We change it for Jese or Bera and then we start twatting it. You really couldn't make this shit up. We got plenty of crosses in first half mate ...he barely won any of them nor the long balls forward That is because he's crap.
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Post by Miles Offside on Mar 18, 2018 13:00:22 GMT
Crouch is one of our best ever value-for-money Premier League signings.
And it's quite possible, if not probable, that his tally of Premier League goals for Stoke will never be beaten.
But it's no use playing through balls for him to chase, or without at least one other in close support.
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Post by timbo1988 on Mar 18, 2018 13:41:43 GMT
Crouch is one of our best ever value-for-money Premier League signings. And it's quite possible, if not probable, that his tally of Premier League goals for Stoke will never be beaten. But it's no use playing through balls for him to chase, or without at least one other in close support. I completely disagree. He was overpriced and meant we had to sign Palacios. He was the reason Pulis started struggle. Has always been vastly overrated and his goalscoring record to games ratio for us is nothing to right home about. We linked with Demba Ba and Loic remy at similar times to when we signed Crouch. I know which one I would have signed.
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Post by trickydicky73 on Mar 18, 2018 13:56:27 GMT
Crouch is one of our best ever value-for-money Premier League signings. And it's quite possible, if not probable, that his tally of Premier League goals for Stoke will never be beaten. But it's no use playing through balls for him to chase, or without at least one other in close support. Imagine not being able to play through balls to a striker! You are right, of course, but when you put it like that it sounds utterly ludicrous.
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Post by RAF on Mar 18, 2018 14:20:28 GMT
Yet he's scored the same amount of goals for us as Fuller did and more at top level. H
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Post by davejohnno1 on Mar 18, 2018 14:24:58 GMT
What's your point?
Have you got the number of minutes or games played by way of comparison?
If crouch doesn't score he contributes nothing. Could you say the same about ric?
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Post by mrred on Mar 18, 2018 14:26:58 GMT
He's a club legend to me. I love the bloke. But all good things come yo an end and I really think Crouch should take a back seat for the good of the team. No one his age should be starting Premier League games.
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Post by Dave the Rave on Mar 18, 2018 14:37:22 GMT
What's your point? Have you got the number of minutes or games played by way of comparison? If crouch doesn't score he contributes nothing. Could you say the same about ric? Can't be arsed to look it up but I'd imagine Crouch has a decent number of assists too. To say in his 7 years here he's never offered anything other than goals is just plain wrong.
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Post by crapslinger on Mar 18, 2018 14:46:30 GMT
What's your point? Have you got the number of minutes or games played by way of comparison? If crouch doesn't score he contributes nothing. Could you say the same about ric? Can't be arsed to look it up but I'd imagine Crouch has a decent number of assists too. To say in his 7 years here he's never offered anything other than goals is just plain wrong. And frankly untrue I would still rather have Crouch than Berahino even at 37 and legs gone.
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Post by RAF on Mar 18, 2018 16:20:44 GMT
What's your point? Have you got the number of minutes or games played by way of comparison? If crouch doesn't score he contributes nothing. Could you say the same about ric? Yes I can, plenty of games where Fuller offered nothing. That doesnt detract from his brilliance. And nor does it make Crouch wank. H
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Post by davejohnno1 on Mar 18, 2018 16:50:30 GMT
What's your point? Have you got the number of minutes or games played by way of comparison? If crouch doesn't score he contributes nothing. Could you say the same about ric? Yes I can, plenty of games where Fuller offered nothing. That doesnt detract from his brilliance. And nor does it make Crouch wank. H Fair enough. He's still wank. Always has been, always will be. His first season with us was better than I expected. Thereafter he's been pretty crap in the main.
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Post by jeycov on Mar 18, 2018 17:16:44 GMT
Hardly won a header & couldn’t keep hold of the ball. No threat at all on the counter attack due to being so immobile, other than that he was fine. Always going to be tough with just 10 men and so 1 less player to support him He made some good defensive work at set pieces
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Post by mrteddysalad on Mar 18, 2018 17:23:19 GMT
He serves no purpose except as a late sub to defend set pieces when we have a lead...and we never have a lead because he's in there for 90' doing nothing.
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Post by RAF on Mar 18, 2018 17:41:01 GMT
Yes I can, plenty of games where Fuller offered nothing. That doesnt detract from his brilliance. And nor does it make Crouch wank. H Fair enough. He's still wank. Always has been, always will be. His first season with us was better than I expected. Thereafter he's been pretty crap in the main. So pretty much the same as Fuller where goals are concerned then give or take a few games? Fair enough. H
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