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Post by stokiekm on Feb 16, 2018 8:54:24 GMT
How many teams in the league's he's been in play on 4g?
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Post by vahl on Feb 16, 2018 9:20:26 GMT
Let's be honest Arsenal are a Champions League team and would give the best team in the world a game any day of the week. We celebrate when we beat them like its a cup final and we play them twice a year.
Potter seems like he has a special thing going on in Sweden but could he replicate that at Premier League level? His methods that have got him the attention stretch far beyond the football on the pitch, he has got the whole village/city going. I reckon he would be suited to a League One/Championship club and will end up round that level - a club he can connect with at all levels.
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Post by thevoid on Feb 16, 2018 10:01:33 GMT
I'd give him a chance next season if we dropped down. I think Paul Hirst is one to watch too.
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Post by Silvio on Feb 16, 2018 10:03:39 GMT
It's a monumental jump from Sweden to the premier league, no doubt about it. I wouldn't take Potter over QSF or even MON but when the alternative is Paul Lambert what is there to lose?
The board have been happy to gamble the club's future on replacing established premier league performers like Arnie with unknowns. It's a shame this sense of adventure doesn't stretch to the managerial team!
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Post by burberrybassist on Feb 16, 2018 13:18:40 GMT
I'm guessing even if we go down we will stick with Lambert to try and push for promotion first time of asking. If that doesn't happen then I'd be more than happy to give Potter a go the season after.
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Post by PotterLog on Feb 16, 2018 14:11:49 GMT
It's a monumental jump from Sweden to the premier league, no doubt about it. I wouldn't take Potter over QSF or even MON but when the alternative is Paul Lambert what is there to lose? The board have been happy to gamble the club's future on replacing established premier league performers like Arnie with unknowns. It's a shame this sense of adventure doesn't stretch to the managerial team! It's not just a jump "from Sweden" either, Ostersunds is a tiny club even by Swedish standards in a remote provincial town with a stadium about a third the size of Vale park. The club is younger than most of our players, the time Potter has been there accounts for a third of their entire history. GP has clearly got something special going for him in this very unique context but to say appointing him to a Prem or even Champo team would be a gamble is a gigantic understatement.
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Post by flea79 on Feb 16, 2018 14:22:40 GMT
I'm guessing even if we go down we will stick with Lambert to try and push for promotion first time of asking. If that doesn't happen then I'd be more than happy to give Potter a go the season after. by which time somebody will probably have already got him, no doubt Scholes will be too busy stuffing his face with pizza to keep an eye on this guy I could genuinely get behind Potter
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Post by GreaterGlasgowstokie on Feb 17, 2018 16:10:46 GMT
I would have preferred Potter to Lambert, especially seeing how badly Lambert has done. Who is more likely to come up with a plan to make the best of what we have and get us out of this? Potter I would have thought, he appears to be very intelligent and studious about the game, and done superbly well getting the best out of a limited talent pool. Idiotic post, if Adam had scored peno we would have had an extra 2 points, so he is shit because of Adam, grow up. Is that what I was saying? I thought I'd said 'hanibal7 is a twat'!
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Post by magwitch on Feb 18, 2018 10:28:56 GMT
Idiotic post, if Adam had scored peno we would have had an extra 2 points, so he is shit because of Adam, grow up. Is that what I was saying? I thought I'd said 'hanibal7 is a twat'! There is nothing idiotic about this post, but an opinion based on fact. We'll see at the end of the season just how well Lambert has done, and forget about Charlie Adam's penalty miss.
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Post by hanibal7 on Feb 18, 2018 11:03:36 GMT
Idiotic post, if Adam had scored peno we would have had an extra 2 points, so he is shit because of Adam, grow up. Is that what I was saying? I thought I'd said 'hanibal7 is a twat'! Exactly the reply I thought, no answer then????
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Post by GoBoks on Feb 18, 2018 20:35:16 GMT
I would have preferred Potter to Lambert, especially seeing how badly Lambert has done. Who is more likely to come up with a plan to make the best of what we have and get us out of this? Potter I would have thought, he appears to be very intelligent and studious about the game, and done superbly well getting the best out of a limited talent pool. So a team that couldn’t buy a result against anyone, including league 2 Coventry, has lost how many games under Lambert? Are you basing your comment on the fact that if a relegation candidate changes manager they are guaranteed 3 wins on the trot?
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Post by numpty40 on Feb 18, 2018 20:54:44 GMT
I would have preferred Potter to Lambert, especially seeing how badly Lambert has done. Who is more likely to come up with a plan to make the best of what we have and get us out of this? Potter I would have thought, he appears to be very intelligent and studious about the game, and done superbly well getting the best out of a limited talent pool. So a team that couldn’t buy a result against anyone, including league 2 Coventry, has lost how many games under Lambert? Are you basing your comment on the fact that if a relegation candidate changes manager they are guaranteed 3 wins on the trot? Someone else pointed out that Hughes matched the number of points Lambert has won against the same teams except that Hughes played three of the four games away. The last four games were probably likely to define our season and I think it has sadly. I would rather have stuck with Hughes than employ Lambert.
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Post by Silvio on Feb 18, 2018 22:00:55 GMT
It's a monumental jump from Sweden to the premier league, no doubt about it. I wouldn't take Potter over QSF or even MON but when the alternative is Paul Lambert what is there to lose? The board have been happy to gamble the club's future on replacing established premier league performers like Arnie with unknowns. It's a shame this sense of adventure doesn't stretch to the managerial team! It's not just a jump "from Sweden" either, Ostersunds is a tiny club even by Swedish standards in a remote provincial town with a stadium about a third the size of Vale park. The club is younger than most of our players, the time Potter has been there accounts for a third of their entire history. GP has clearly got something special going for him in this very unique context but to say appointing him to a Prem or even Champo team would be a gamble is a gigantic understatement. Very well put. You're right, it's hard to argue that a (soon to be former?) middling premier league club like ours should be entertaining the thought of Potter as manager but I think you could say the same about Lambert who's stock has fallen so much since his Norwich days. Given the choice of the two in January I would genuinely have taken a punt on Potter. Nothing I've seen has changed my mind and I really don't think Lambert is the man to take us into next season and beyond. As you say, Potter seems to have a touch of something special about him - why not put an experienced coaching team around him and see if he could replicate this on an admittedly much bigger stage. If it doesn't work then we tried and I don't have the faith in Lambert to say it would've been any better under him anyway. Of course it's all academic anyway. There's no chance our lot would be adventurous enough to go for GP!
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Post by GoBoks on Feb 19, 2018 2:38:12 GMT
So a team that couldn’t buy a result against anyone, including league 2 Coventry, has lost how many games under Lambert? Are you basing your comment on the fact that if a relegation candidate changes manager they are guaranteed 3 wins on the trot? Someone else pointed out that Hughes matched the number of points Lambert has won against the same teams except that Hughes played three of the four games away. The last four games were probably likely to define our season and I think it has sadly. I would rather have stuck with Hughes than employ Lambert. As an opinion that's fine, but to say "because Lambert has done so badly " is just rubbish.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Feb 19, 2018 23:04:27 GMT
Someone else pointed out that Hughes matched the number of points Lambert has won against the same teams except that Hughes played three of the four games away. The last four games were probably likely to define our season and I think it has sadly. I would rather have stuck with Hughes than employ Lambert. As an opinion that's fine, but to say "because Lambert has done so badly " is just rubbish. He has done badly. 5 points from: Huddersfield (h) Watford (h) Bournemouth (a) Brighton (h) Is piss poor.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 19, 2018 23:07:00 GMT
As an opinion that's fine, but to say "because Lambert has done so badly " is just rubbish. He has done badly. 5 points from: Huddersfield (h) Watford (h) Bournemouth (a) Brighton (h) Is piss poor. We needed at least 8 in my opinion
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Post by bayernoatcake on Feb 19, 2018 23:10:52 GMT
He has done badly. 5 points from: Huddersfield (h) Watford (h) Bournemouth (a) Brighton (h) Is piss poor. We needed at least 8 in my opinion We need some quite extraordinary results now.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 19, 2018 23:22:45 GMT
We needed at least 8 in my opinion We need some quite extraordinary results now. Just want to dance e the night away. PL is taking us down. Plenty of time to get these boys firing on all cycle's random!
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Post by GoBoks on Feb 19, 2018 23:56:12 GMT
As an opinion that's fine, but to say "because Lambert has done so badly " is just rubbish. He has done badly. 5 points from: Huddersfield (h) Watford (h) Bournemouth (a) Brighton (h) Is piss poor. So you subscribe to the theory that just because a new manager is appointed, suddenly the team will be fitter, more motivated, playing together and for each other overnight? Crikey, I'd hate to see some on here in a real tight squeeze.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Feb 20, 2018 0:00:10 GMT
He has done badly. 5 points from: Huddersfield (h) Watford (h) Bournemouth (a) Brighton (h) Is piss poor. So you subscribe to the theory that just because a new manager is appointed, suddenly the team will be fitter, more motivated, playing together and for each other overnight? Crikey, I'd hate to see some on here in a real tight squeeze. Bar fitter I don't think the rest is too much of an ask. We have a shit side. We have a shit manager.
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Post by GoBoks on Feb 20, 2018 13:12:37 GMT
So you subscribe to the theory that just because a new manager is appointed, suddenly the team will be fitter, more motivated, playing together and for each other overnight? Crikey, I'd hate to see some on here in a real tight squeeze. Bar fitter I don't think the rest is too much of an ask. We have a shit side. We have a shit manager. Based on 4 games with a shit side( your words not mine), I think it’s a little harsh to jump to that conclusion.
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Post by robstokie on Feb 20, 2018 15:39:00 GMT
Should have given Lambert an 18 month contract with Potter has his No2,to take over after 18 months. Should have given Lambert till the end of the season on low wages, but with a money bonus and an automatic extension on slightly better money if we survive. I think Lambert would still have bitten our hand off - he wasn't exactly in a position to be choosy with his track record - in fact, it says something that even Sunderland and Hull didn't even entertain bringing him in when they sacked their managers earlier this season.
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Post by dudnostokie on Feb 20, 2018 15:55:51 GMT
As an opinion that's fine, but to say "because Lambert has done so badly " is just rubbish. He has done badly. 5 points from: Huddersfield (h) Watford (h) Bournemouth (a) Brighton (h) Is piss poor. Thing is, if Charlie had put that penalty away the return would be 8 points from 4 which isn't bad at all given the current circumstances. Surely the 89th minute antics against Brighton aren't down to the manager.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Feb 20, 2018 15:59:39 GMT
He has done badly. 5 points from: Huddersfield (h) Watford (h) Bournemouth (a) Brighton (h) Is piss poor. Thing is, if Charlie had put that penalty away the return would be 8 points from 4 which isn't bad at all given the current circumstances. Surely the 89th minute antics against Brighton aren't down to the manager. Organising who the penalty taker is? I'd put it fairly and squarely on the manager if that wasn't clear. Which of course we don't know. It's irrelevant anyway, he missed it. We deserved to lose anyway.
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Post by dudnostokie on Feb 20, 2018 16:08:31 GMT
Our penalty taker has always been Charlie when he's been on the pitch, failing that Shaqiri. I'm not saying we deserved to win (I personally think a draw was fair), I'm saying that the difference between us winning and getting 8 points from 4 instead of 5 from 4 came down to one kick of the ball. Lambert must take some of the blame, but he's not doing too bad considering the state that the squad was in prior to his appointment.
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Post by ivorstokie on Feb 20, 2018 16:17:15 GMT
Think you'll find it would have been 7 from 4 if we'd beaten Brighton!
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Post by fca47 on Feb 20, 2018 18:04:23 GMT
You've got to give Lambert some leeway, we were an absolute shambles when he took over. We've still let in some shocking goals under him, but he needs time to sort it out.
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Post by essexstokey on Feb 21, 2018 10:36:59 GMT
this weekend will be key as hes had another week without a game to work on them get them fitter
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Post by Deleted on Feb 22, 2018 12:27:44 GMT
Daily Mail saying West Brom are considering him.
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Post by Gods on Feb 22, 2018 12:39:52 GMT
Daily Mail saying West Brom are considering him. He was as much their former player (43 games) as he was ours (45 games) I suppose so it's not hard to see why his name is getting batted around.
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