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Post by owdestokie2 on Feb 12, 2018 9:01:38 GMT
The common law of business
There is hardly anything in the world that someone cannot make a little worse and sell a little cheaper, and the people who consider price alone are that person's lawful prey.
It's unwise to pay too much, but it's worse to pay too little. When you pay too much, you lose a little money – that is all. When you pay too little, you sometimes lose everything, because the thing you bought was incapable of doing the thing it was bought to do.
The common law of business balance prohibits paying a little and getting a lot – it can't be done. If you deal with the lowest bidder, it is well to add something for the risk you run, and if you do that you will have enough to pay for something better."
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Post by potterglen on Feb 12, 2018 9:06:37 GMT
Will we ever know the depth of individual involvement in our demise? There are so many considerations starting at the very top. PC and his blind stubbornness regarding Hughes and the acceptance of dire results. Who DOES control transfers from funds and contracts to actual players? Is that Scholes alone? Scouts - what exactly is their directive, Bosmans or genuine talent for a fair price? I’m baffled that no one has (to our knowledge) been sacked for the Imbula, Berahino, Wimmer deals. Coaching staff. Are any of them honest with the Manager or themselves regarding player fitness and development or are they just happy being in a job and a bunch of yes men? I don’t have ITK chums, I just turn up for games and take in what’s posted on here and social media and try to work out what’s going to become of the club having gone from established and stable to a shambolic unrecognisable mess in just 2 years.
The none Coates Board members can (and probably will) walk away as millionaires and think back at the time they swaggered around as VIP’s at a Premier League club as a good time. The Coates family can and will do as they please with their millions. What will WE remember them as?
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Post by Stokyo on Feb 12, 2018 9:16:54 GMT
Its a good job it's not the year 1381 as Scholes and Cartwright would be dragged to tower hill or the nearest tree! I wouldnt advocate a hanging, a good shackling and flogging would be enough for me.
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Post by Stokyo on Feb 12, 2018 9:22:08 GMT
The common law of business There is hardly anything in the world that someone cannot make a little worse and sell a little cheaper, and the people who consider price alone are that person's lawful prey. It's unwise to pay too much, but it's worse to pay too little. When you pay too much, you lose a little money – that is all. When you pay too little, you sometimes lose everything, because the thing you bought was incapable of doing the thing it was bought to do. The common law of business balance prohibits paying a little and getting a lot – it can't be done. If you deal with the lowest bidder, it is well to add something for the risk you run, and if you do that you will have enough to pay for something better." When you are a billionaire off the back of other peoples misfortunes, financial destitution, debt and poverty you think you can get away with anything or so it seems.
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Post by thevoid on Feb 12, 2018 9:22:39 GMT
Coates runs the whole shit show and sets the budget. So he's your man. Reverting to type.
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Post by Seymour Beaver on Feb 12, 2018 9:26:22 GMT
The common law of business There is hardly anything in the world that someone cannot make a little worse and sell a little cheaper, and the people who consider price alone are that person's lawful prey. It's unwise to pay too much, but it's worse to pay too little. When you pay too much, you lose a little money – that is all. When you pay too little, you sometimes lose everything, because the thing you bought was incapable of doing the thing it was bought to do. The common law of business balance prohibits paying a little and getting a lot – it can't be done. If you deal with the lowest bidder, it is well to add something for the risk you run, and if you do that you will have enough to pay for something better." John Ruskin??
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Post by cooper67 on Feb 12, 2018 9:45:29 GMT
Peter Coates. He needs to do the right thing and sell the club, you can’t operate in 2018 with a 1970’s mindset. can't imagine a long queue of potential buyers. An unfashionable club in the second tier. Dark times It isn't his to sell.
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Post by Olgrligm on Feb 12, 2018 9:46:44 GMT
Every single player.
I accept that they're mostly Championship and League 1 standard players, but they could at least put some effort in.
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Post by GreaterGlasgowstokie on Feb 12, 2018 9:52:16 GMT
Every single player. I accept that they're mostly Championship and League 1 standard players, but they could at least put some effort in. Yep, I think the owners are taking criticism and so they should. But the players have not been at it all season, they have taken us down. If they'd had a bit more pride and professionalism this wouldn't be happening
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Post by claytonscrubs on Feb 12, 2018 9:57:05 GMT
The New Corner should take a long, hard look at himself...🙂
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Post by tuum on Feb 12, 2018 13:15:03 GMT
The common law of business There is hardly anything in the world that someone cannot make a little worse and sell a little cheaper, and the people who consider price alone are that person's lawful prey. It's unwise to pay too much, but it's worse to pay too little. When you pay too much, you lose a little money – that is all. When you pay too little, you sometimes lose everything, because the thing you bought was incapable of doing the thing it was bought to do. The common law of business balance prohibits paying a little and getting a lot – it can't be done. If you deal with the lowest bidder, it is well to add something for the risk you run, and if you do that you will have enough to pay for something better." Berahino? Wimmer? Imbula? These are our mistakes. We don't seem to have done too bad at the 4-5MM end of the market.
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Post by forwhatitsworth on Feb 12, 2018 13:20:51 GMT
The common law of business There is hardly anything in the world that someone cannot make a little worse and sell a little cheaper, and the people who consider price alone are that person's lawful prey. It's unwise to pay too much, but it's worse to pay too little. When you pay too much, you lose a little money – that is all. When you pay too little, you sometimes lose everything, because the thing you bought was incapable of doing the thing it was bought to do. The common law of business balance prohibits paying a little and getting a lot – it can't be done. If you deal with the lowest bidder, it is well to add something for the risk you run, and if you do that you will have enough to pay for something better." Berahino? Wimmer? Imbula? These are our mistakes. We don't seem to have done too bad at the 4-5MM end of the market. Common law of business is utter horse shit when it comes to footballers. You could spend £200m on Neymar and tomorrow he breaks his leg, has a dip in form or develops a crack habit. You never know what you're going to get. Some of our best transfers have been freebies or cheap buys. As is said above some of our best buys have been at the 5-6m range. Its the astuteness of those behind the transfers that needs looking at. Cartwright and Scholes are fucking clueless. Even when we signed Bauer after Hughes was sacked one of their opening sentences was "this is a player Mark Hughes has been tracking for some time" - which roughly translates as "if this doesn't work out blame him". They are spineless little cretins - Cartwright and Scholes out!
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Post by leicspotter on Feb 12, 2018 19:36:18 GMT
Nobody would buy us. Coates to stay Scholes and Cartwright to go for me. If Coates were to go we'd be screwed and I think its very ungrateful for people to be calling for his head. Haha behave fella. Peter has milked the cow that is Stoke's Premier League existence until it's lying on her side, on deaths door, ready to be made into rump steaks..... Or more likely in our case shitty Big Macs. Coates HAS to accept some of the blame here. No question. Just for the record: Big Macs are made from prime beef, not worn out dairy cows
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Post by gingerninja on Feb 12, 2018 20:32:03 GMT
I don't know why people are saying Scholes should go, maybe he should but he is a club director so it aint going happen
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Post by Staying up for Grandadstokey on Feb 12, 2018 22:24:42 GMT
I don't know why people are saying Scholes should go, maybe he should but he is a club director so it aint going happen He is also a paid employee, it could/ should happen, but I very much doubt it will.
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Post by metalhead on Feb 12, 2018 22:33:22 GMT
I don't know why people are saying Scholes should go, maybe he should but he is a club director so it aint going happen He is also a paid employee, it could/ should happen, but I very much doubt it will. It definitely won't.
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