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Post by supersimonstainrod on Feb 2, 2018 0:19:29 GMT
The OP makes a good point. This is something that's been allowed to happen under Pulls, Hughes and now seemingly Lambert. The serious lack of bodypopping from unselected players is a cancer that's eating the club from the inside and one that will inevitably see us relegated. I'm very disappointed that Crouchy has never graduated from the robot to full-on electric boogaloo....smacks of complacency and inertia imho....
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Post by boskampsflaps on Feb 2, 2018 1:01:13 GMT
Do you think they need to be jumping up and down when they're coming out the tunnel to get picked Another one who didn’t go to the game or watch the player’s entrance. I went, but who cares how they come out , they could have just gone home like others have, at least they were there.
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Post by terryconroysmagic on Feb 2, 2018 2:46:47 GMT
Out of interest, how enthusiastic do you look when you walk into work? I know I certainly aren’t beaming from ear to ear, this is no different. When I go into work I have a face like an opera singers bollock cloth..like a blood clot in a cobblers piss pot.. like a cabbage in a hot tub etc..... Don't know why Sheiky you spend most of your working hours on here
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Post by bloody56 on Feb 2, 2018 11:54:40 GMT
I was surprised to see Johnson on the bench rather than Edwards. Perhaps Edwards was caring a knock or turned up late, which may explain their pensive expressions.
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Post by vahl on Feb 2, 2018 12:05:46 GMT
Tom Edwards will not be a Premier League footballer tbh.
Sentimentality gets you instant Revered status at Stoke lately and its doing us in a bit. We used to kick these kids in to touch as soon as we saw they were not good enough.
Constantly playing Zouma instead of Big Bruno is another contributing factor to our downfall this season. We will sort it out though.
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Post by PotterLog on Feb 2, 2018 13:16:56 GMT
Tom Edwards will not be a Premier League footballer tbh. Sentimentality gets you instant Revered status at Stoke lately and its doing us in a bit. We used to kick these kids in to touch as soon as we saw they were not good enough. Constantly playing Zouma instead of Big Bruno is another contributing factor to our downfall this season. We will sort it out though. When have we "seen he's not good enough"? Jesus he's 19, he's played like 3 games and has done reasonably well and you want to "kick him into touch". Jesus fucking Christ
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Post by werrington on Feb 2, 2018 13:21:37 GMT
Tom Edwards will not be a Premier League footballer tbh. Sentimentality gets you instant Revered status at Stoke lately and its doing us in a bit. We used to kick these kids in to touch as soon as we saw they were not good enough. Constantly playing Zouma instead of Big Bruno is another contributing factor to our downfall this season. We will sort it out though. When have we "seen he's not good enough"? Jesus he's 19, he's played like 3 games and has done reasonably well and you want to "kick him into touch". Jesus fucking Christ It’s a good job this mb wasn’t up and running when Steve Bould was just starting out
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Post by kustokie on Feb 2, 2018 13:21:47 GMT
I was surprised by their lack of enthusiasm. They need to get a smile on my their faces like Crouchy. Perhaps they’re unhappy with their salary? I understand that Wimmer is our joint highest earner - he should be beaming from ear to ear for earning that much, given his performances to date! Many studies have shown that the number one reason people leave a job is lack of appreciation by management. It doesn’t matter where you are in the salary scale. In fact the higher up you are the important job satisfaction becomes.
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Post by werrington on Feb 2, 2018 13:22:30 GMT
Tom Edwards will not be a Premier League footballer tbh. Sentimentality gets you instant Revered status at Stoke lately and its doing us in a bit. We used to kick these kids in to touch as soon as we saw they were not good enough. Constantly playing Zouma instead of Big Bruno is another contributing factor to our downfall this season. We will sort it out though. He was mom v Huddersfield
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Post by jezzascfc on Feb 2, 2018 13:27:43 GMT
I understand that Wimmer is our joint highest earner - he should be beaming from ear to ear for earning that much, given his performances to date! Many studies have shown that the number one reason people leave a job is lack of appreciation by management. It doesn’t matter where you are in the salary scale. In fact the higher up you are the important job satisfaction becomes. If I was earning 50% less than I am, but got told every day I was really appreciated, believe me it would not persuade me to stay!
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Post by vahl on Feb 2, 2018 13:29:51 GMT
Tom Edwards will not be a Premier League footballer tbh. Sentimentality gets you instant Revered status at Stoke lately and its doing us in a bit. We used to kick these kids in to touch as soon as we saw they were not good enough. Constantly playing Zouma instead of Big Bruno is another contributing factor to our downfall this season. We will sort it out though. When have we "seen he's not good enough"? Jesus he's 19, he's played like 3 games and has done reasonably well and you want to "kick him into touch". Jesus fucking Christ It is not a personal dig at the lad. I just can't see how he justifies a place in our team. He has a belting cross on him but otherwise, for a Premier League right-back, he is awful. How & why are players like this getting a chance to play for a Premier League side when you can't do fundamental stuff such as defending your back post from crosses or watching a man run over your shoulder. I think Edwards was used by Sparky because he was playing some strange game with Tony Scholes & Mark Cartwright. Probably making a point to the board in some weird way. We are at 25 games gone and it's already going down in history as a "horror season". The players shouldn't always get the flack but considering how lacklustre and error filled we've been at the back, I don't see anyone else to blame. That Goals Against column is disgusting for a club like ours, we pride ourselves on being a hard to beat team, don't we?
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Post by rawli on Feb 2, 2018 16:01:35 GMT
I remember seeing players flick flack down Boothen Old Road when they weren't in the team. Footballers today - acting pissed off because they aren't playing... another nail in the coffin of the modern game.
They are just mercenaries who are happy to pick up their pay cheque regardless...
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Post by slicko on Jun 4, 2018 17:14:11 GMT
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jun 4, 2018 17:20:03 GMT
How? The biggest thing it's shown is just how bad Lambert actually was. What he did to Wimmer was uneccesary and just desperately poor management showing he hadn't learnt from the bomb squads at Villa. Wimmer has said nothing wrong.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 4, 2018 17:20:56 GMT
£10.5m option to make it permanent.
I'll be laughing my cock off if we only lose £7.5m on this fat, Austrian noncer.
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Post by slicko on Jun 4, 2018 17:32:46 GMT
How? The biggest thing it's shown is just how bad Lambert actually was. What he did to Wimmer was uneccesary and just desperately poor management showing he hadn't learnt from the bomb squads at Villa. Wimmer has said nothing wrong. He’s said every thing wrong Bayern. How arrogant of the lad to pick up a full salary and not be willing to tweak his style, which he is capable of doing, to follow the manager’s strategy and Stoke’s cause. In effect he limited the Manager’s options. We needed players with more determination than Wimmer had. His body language like I stated earlier in the year was a symptom of his stubbornness.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jun 4, 2018 17:44:01 GMT
How? The biggest thing it's shown is just how bad Lambert actually was. What he did to Wimmer was uneccesary and just desperately poor management showing he hadn't learnt from the bomb squads at Villa. Wimmer has said nothing wrong. He’s said every thing wrong Bayern. How arrogant of the lad to pick up a full salary and not be willing to tweak his style, which he is capable of doing, to follow the manager’s strategy and Stoke’s cause. In effect he limited the Manager’s options. We needed players with more determination than Wimmer had. His body language like I stated earlier in the year was a symptom of his stubbornness. He wasn't given the chance to tweak his style! He has said he wanted to play but wasn't selected! Lambert said outright he didn't want him according to Wimmer. What kind of man management is that? The manager and the manager limited his options. He did the same with Jese, Afellay and Ireland when it wasn't needed too.
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Post by slicko on Jun 4, 2018 17:57:21 GMT
He’s said every thing wrong Bayern. How arrogant of the lad to pick up a full salary and not be willing to tweak his style, which he is capable of doing, to follow the manager’s strategy and Stoke’s cause. In effect he limited the Manager’s options. We needed players with more determination than Wimmer had. His body language like I stated earlier in the year was a symptom of his stubbornness. He wasn't given the chance to tweak his style! He has said he wanted to play but wasn't selected! Lambert said outright he didn't want him according to Wimmer. What kind of man management is that? The manager and the manager limited his options. He did the same with Jese, Afellay and Ireland when it wasn't needed too. I’m in no way jumping to support Lambert but Wimmer’s opportunity to shine by tweaking his style like a consummate professional was in training. He blew it.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jun 4, 2018 17:59:33 GMT
He wasn't given the chance to tweak his style! He has said he wanted to play but wasn't selected! Lambert said outright he didn't want him according to Wimmer. What kind of man management is that? The manager and the manager limited his options. He did the same with Jese, Afellay and Ireland when it wasn't needed too. I’m in no way jumping to support Lambert but Wimmer’s opportunity to shine by tweaking his style like a consummate professional was in training. He blew it. He was told he was never going to play ffs That is absolutely shit man management and ever likely he doesn't want to stay here if we're employing that level of manager.
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Post by slicko on Jun 4, 2018 18:01:37 GMT
I’m in no way jumping to support Lambert but Wimmer’s opportunity to shine by tweaking his style like a consummate professional was in training. He blew it. He was told he was never going to play ffs That is absolutely shit man management and ever likely he doesn't want to stay here if we're employing that level of manager. You seriously believe that Lambert made that decision prior to watching him? I thought you had better judgement than that Bayern.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jun 4, 2018 18:05:16 GMT
He was told he was never going to play ffs That is absolutely shit man management and ever likely he doesn't want to stay here if we're employing that level of manager. You seriously believe that Lambert made that decision prior to watching him? I thought you had better judgement than that Bayern. Ah so he did it after 4 days of training then! Wow. Big chance. Lambert was a disaster and telling someone that is sheer lunacy when you need everyone pulling in the right direction. I hold Lambert with utter contempt. Everything he did, he did badly.
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Post by slicko on Jun 4, 2018 18:17:11 GMT
You seriously believe that Lambert made that decision prior to watching him? I thought you had better judgement than that Bayern. Ah so he did it after 4 days of training then! Wow. Big chance. Lambert was a disaster and telling someone that is sheer lunacy when you need everyone pulling in the right direction. I hold Lambert with utter contempt. Everything he did, he did badly. I do not think Lambert was the right appointment either but Wimmer and many other lightweights in the squad bear much responsibility for our demise. Why is this thread anchored? I was enjoying our debate.
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Post by andystokey on Jun 4, 2018 18:17:12 GMT
The only thing that article cries out to me is what a poor manager Lambert actually was. His rhetoric about giving players a chance, clean slate and all that doesn't match his actions. Ireland is the epitome of that. Our best player at OT in his first game back after lengthy injury. Never seen again. Lambert reduced the players available to him in the first few days of a squad that was already woefully short. Criminal negligence in my view. 2 clubs 2 bomb squads 1 common denominator.
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Post by fca47 on Jun 4, 2018 21:45:25 GMT
We all have to take the word of a player making excuses why he couldn't get in a relegated side. Couldn't have been that he is a crap and feckless tosser of a football player.
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